Dragon Age: Inquisition PC Specs

Mass effect on PC plays well with a KB&M for the simple fact that the PC versions never included controller support.

i think it all depends on how the KB&M control mapping is done.

 

Well that depends. I don't mind ME1 or 2's KBM, but even Dark Souls 2 which is fully playable with KBM I still rather the controller. Then again with Borderlands 2 where most people preferred the controller I rathered the keyboard/mouse.

 

i agree in that it is a mix of how well the KB&M controls are refined as well as personal preference.

controller != dumbed down.

though i do have one thing that i think should stop for KB&M controls - binding multiple functions to 1 key. this is fine on a controller since there's a limited amount of buttons to use but not so much on a KB&M and if the mapping is done right then you (by that i mean the developers) shouldn't have to resort to binding multiple functions to 1 key whether on purpose or not.

 

Indeed. What's dumbed down is when you have to combine functions for controller keys, and it transfers across to PC. THAT. I cannot stand.

 

for a controller that can't be helped but for KB&M it's unacceptable.

i like that dragon age inquisition changes the HUD and UI depending on whether you're using a controller or KB&M and I like that.

 

Agreed! Skyrim should have done that for people that were using kbm. I used 360 controller, but still. The only games I get upset when there's no controller option are the ones that it makes no sense there couldn't be one. That's becoming very rare these days thankfully.

 

I actually best prefer games that switch the controls (and button prompts) to the input device you're using at the time. I did it with Sleeping Dogs; when it came time for shooty shooty in missions I used KBM and when I had to drive I picked back up my controller. I loved that, and more games need to do this. Skyrim was annoying; it would cut off my ability to use my mouse for stuff if I turned on the controller, and sometimes controller would turn itself on somehow. It was a bit annoying.

 

It's OK that you prefer a 360 controller, but what about the people like me, who prefer ye olde school KB+M?
When we talk about a good console to PC port I expect it to have proper KB+M controls. Is that too much to ask?

 

i play it with mouse and keyboard and find it okay only the tactical camera and controls of are a big problem but i play it on normal difficultie and im currently level 12 and i need twice tactical camera(for the dragon and the avaar boss)

 

Like I said man - its perfectly acceptable to expect KBM support. What I'm saying is you should also expect PC games in general move towards a more simplified approach to controls, especially with ports. Is it too much to ask? Of course not but as someone who uses a PC/Mac/Technology in general, I think we should all be open and willing to change if needed.

 

the important thing is one most adapt with the change in times.

 

I have no problem using a computer with Windows/Linux/OSX when I need to, but I prefer to use Windows when I can make a choice. Same with controllers. I can play with buddies a fighting game on their consoles using a controller, but when I game on my PC I want to use KB+M, unless there are some rare cases (flight sims). It has nothing to do with "technology mowing forward."
I don't like gamepads, they are too limited, which in return hurt video games themselves. Compare COD1 to COD2. Both are arcade shooters, but in COD1 you could change the rate of fire and could carry more weapons. None of that in COD2. And generally gamepads are pain in the butt to use in FPS. I can't imagine how to aim with the thing, and aim assist is cheating.

 

I flat out refuse. Just because a dev wanted to put 20 buttons onto a 16 button controller and decided to contextually combine some keys into one doesn't mean I should not have the option to separate them on PC. I mean... CoD does it. You can split the "sprint" and "hold breath" buttons, as well as the "crouch" and "prone" buttons. You can still bind the combined keys to a keyboard, but you have the option to not do so. And that's the best way to go about it. It's actually MORE difficult to combine button presses and have them work contextually without accidentally doing the action you don't want them to do often than it is to separate them.

 

It is not a good console port if it does not have proper KB&M controls. Simple as that. Controller support is gravy, KB&M is not. You're on a freakin' computer for god's sake, tell me what are the most basic input devices that come with every PC...

"Of course not but as someone who uses a PC/Mac/Technology in general, I think we should all be open and willing to change if needed."

Being dumbed down is not a change I am open and willing to accept. You may be OK with it, but I am not, so stop trying to speak for "us all." Also this quote reminds me of Windows 8 for some strange reason.

 

That it does. But even MS later started to fix some things for KB+M users.

 

Actually I was thinking more along the lines of "I think we should all be open and willing to change if needed" being something I've read countless times from Windows 8 apologists, but the Windows 8.1 mouse issues are bang-on as well.

 

Controller support !== Dumbed-down

I have many titles in my Steam library I'd much rather play with a controller, hence why I spent the ridiculously small sum vs the money I've spent on hardware and games on steam to get a wired 360 controller. I just like to kick back on the couch or recliner with my laptop on my lapdesk and play a game with the controller.

Obviously there's some games that don't make much sense to play with a controller, but most are fine or actually a better way to play IMO. (IMO being the major thing here, this whole argument is all just opinion not correct/incorrect).

 

Agree, that is not necessarily the case. But controller support at the expense of proper KB&M controls (or none at all!) is dumbing down and unacceptable for a PC game. Things like mouse acceleration and smoothing, unbindable keys, and multiple actions bound to the same key are hallmarks of poor console port disease.

 

Enough said

 

You're not adaptable, you're trainable. There is a difference .

 

Haven't tried this game yet, can you explain the problems with KB&M controls?

I can understand how gamepad might work for people who just play one character at a time and let the A.I. handle the other party members, but I can't imagine how it could possibly work better to use a controller the way I play these games, which is turning off all A.I. tactics and playing the entire game in pause menu, micromanaging every single single party member action.

 

Watch this video:



At 14 min, TotalBicuit begins going over the controls. At 17 min, he describes the problem.

TL;DW KB&M is preferable because the game controls a lot like an MMO, except in Tactical View, which is clearly designed for the analog sticks on a controller.

 

This is going to sound insane but when I verified the DAI's installation integrity (w/e its called) in Origin and I ended up gaining an extra 5+FPS. Keep in mind, I haven't done this since the games release; I've only updated it with patches, etc. *mindblown*

Has this happened to anyone else?

 

Can anyone explain how to buy this through Origin Mexico?

It was on sale for 26.99 until last night and I installed hola browser extension for Chrome to get a Mexico IP address for this purpose.

I was able to see the cart and check out, with everything in spanish, Mexico prices in USD. However, I kept getting error message #10048 when I tried to use my US bank debit card or prepaid vanilla visa debit card. Then I tried buying EA wallet card from the store, but I suppose I wasted my money on this card because Origin Mexico doesn't show using EA wallet as a payment option.

Any suggestions? Do I have to make a new Origin account to do this?

 

Ref Error #10048 - Answer HQ

 

Were you able to buy from Origin Mexico?

I have tried prepaid card, bank debit card, saving payment info to origin account, deleting and retyping payment info, etc., nothing seems to work.

Maybe too many people bought from the Mexico site and they changed it so you have to use a Mexican credit card or something?

 

i was at the "gonna click the buy button but then realised i didn't have enough on the card" situation.

 

Does origin allow you to add money to a wallet like steam does? You could try that before trying to buy it

 

i am 41 hours in and i still haven't beaten a dragon yet....kinda avoiding them on purpose so i can level up as much as possible. though i think that being a dual welding rogue doesn't help me so i better get some mages with ice damage staffs.

 

Haha yeah I did that unfortunately, wasted $40 buying 2 prepaid EA wallet cards, but Origin Mexico doesn't allow you to use your wallet funds as payment option.

 

I'm about 45 hours into the game and really enjoying it. I don't think I like the decision that they got rid of a healer. Instead, it seems like you are essentially not supposed to ever let your health bar go down, and rather just use Barrier and Guard to buffer your health. It kind of takes an element out of combat and builds, especially since armor (at least the defensive stats on armor) don't even really matter. Overall the environments are amazing though and I am having fun as a mage Knight Enchanter.

 

I agree. They basically force you to either use Vivienne or spec as a Knight Enchanter for Resurgence.

 

So I'm getting DX crashes now. idk why but I crash every once in a while when I go to the war board

 

Yeah. I play as a KE but I also generally take another mage for an extra barrier. Then I have either Cassandra or Blackwall as a tank who gives guard to everyone. Probably a little too much conservative, but it is working for me.

 

im 48hours in game level 15 and i finished 2 dragons I play as a human mage with varrick with double daggers,iron bull one handed weapon and cassandra one handed weapon and i just beat the dragon in western approach.What a fight .I consumed all my 12 health potions and i all my team mates died but lucky the dragon had only about 350 health so i finished him with 2-3 moves before he attacked me cause i would died and i couldnt use barrier haha .Guys is there any item box to put some stuffs?i wanted to put some rare weapons i found early on in game(pink ones) cause i have now much stronger weapons but i couldnt find any item box to store it?Btw you should buy the mystery box in val royeaux on top flor for 10 000 and you will get great exotics mounts

 

Why the hell does the graphics go from "pretty good" to "ps2 vomit" after the intro?

I was liking everything at the start, then when I finally have my keep and got sent on my first mission in the forest, the graphics suddenly dropped to DA2 levels of feces.

I can understand consoles being worthless so a big area like that needs to downgrade, but this shouldn't happen for pc.

 

Hey so.... got a question for ya'll

I've got a 970m and 4710hq, 16gb ram, but when I am playing inquisition on 1600x900 (not even 1080p) with ultra settings (2x msaa), I've only been getting 20~21 FPS...

All my drivers are updated (but I dont have nvidia experience installed, just the drivers and physics thing)

I don't think it's throttling because it's only at 82C (with fans on medium), and with the fans on high it drops to the 70s (which it definitely shouldnt throttle in...)

any suggestions??

Thx!

 

You should check your GPU load and CPU load as well as CPU speeds while gaming. If your GPU is not throttling but your CPU is, it could happen.

Also, you need to remember that a single 970M is not a gigantic powerhouse, and DA:I is far harder to run than games like battlelfield 4. Blame Bioware for lack of PC optimization, I guess? It could run a little better for PC from what I've seen of it.

But I think you should be able to get better performance. Good luck checking your speeds/etc.

 

I know... according to notebook check I should be getting, at ultra 1080p, around 34fps. 20FPS at 1600x900 is way below par >< not sure what the issue is lol. I'll double check the GPU and CPU while it's running, and I'll kill background programs and such to make sure I'm getting the fastest performance possible.

I'm on windows 8.1 btw, if that makes any difference. My only anti virus program is malware bytes. You think CPU could bottleneck it THIS much??

 

Is there a program you'd recommend downloading to test/benchmark my GPU and CPU performance that has temp stats and such? Perhaps it's just this game.

 

You can use HWiNFO64 for temp graphs, or MSI Afterburner's overlay for real-time speeds/temps/loads.

 

There's also hwmonitor for a quick and simple no frills max temp check.

 

Yeah, my 980M plays the game 1080p maxed out (I turn AA off though) sitting in the 40's for the most part, with some occasional dips into the 30's here and there. This is despite the game refusing to to fullscreen and only playable in borderless windowed mode, which is known to tank performance (needs to be fixed asap). The 970M isn't that far behind the 980M so something else is to blame there. Same CPU here (i7-4710HQ) so that shouldn't be an issue.

 

I have to agree with this. When I first started playing (KB&M), the game felt...weird. The menu system didn't make sense. The tactical camera didn't make sense. The loot pickup system didn't make sense.

Then I plugged in my controller..and it all made sense. The game was much easier (and more enjoyable) to play. It was then that it became blatantly obvious that this was an under-optimized console port.

The entire game was designed for a console, all the systems were designed for the console. Even gameplay was designed for the console (the lack of any kind of useful tactics is just stupid).

Dumbed-down? You betcha.

After finishing the game, I loaded up DA2. Yes, DA2. And man, what a breath of fresh air. Real tactics. Controls/menu that were designed for the PC. Press "R" and you'll automatically loot everything around you, and run to a chest to open it if you're too far away.

Don't get me wrong, DAI is a good game overall, I really loved playing a Knight Enchanter (ME3 Vanguard anybody?). But the apple has fallen far away from the tree.

Consoles just don't lend themselves very well to RPGs/MMOs of any kind.

 

Okay so I finally got around to beating this game, completing all the side quests, etc. and I have say. I enjoyed it. I don't know if this is a good thing but after the ending, I felt like I wanted more. I wanted to play more DAI but not reply it. I'm not a reply kinda guy - so now I have this void that I must fill in my free time until story based DLC comes out of the next installment of DA comes out. I really like that the plot is finally flushing out the back story. I avoided spoilers on the internet like the plague so the ending to say the very least - has me interested in what's to come and it actually kind of surprised me.

 

Would you say it's more of a linear game rather than open world sandbox?

For most open world games like Shadow of Mordor, Skyrim, Far Cry 3, etc., I completely ignore the quests I'm supposed to do and just wander about killing stuff. These have really high replay value because I only do some of the quests with each character, whatever seems interesting at the time. For example in Skyrim I have played quite a lot of different characters but still have not completed most of the questlines.

 

It's open world. You can wander around for HOURS, doing random fetch and kill "quests" and never even touch the main story line.

I wouldn't mind playing more of it (such as DLC), but I really have no desire to replay it.

Why?

It is tedious. The number of mundane fetch and kill quests is ridiculous. Given that you're the Inquisitor, it is insane to think you'd go around picking herbs, mining ore and delivering a lover's letter. Really? I have underlings for this kind of crap.

It just breaks the immersion to me. In DA:O and DA2, it made sense that you'd be doing mundane tasks for people - you're a literal nobody trying to make a name for yourself. In DAI, you're the Herald of Andraste, the Inquisitor - literally one of the most powerful figures in the land. So why am I doing mundane, unimportant chores? Why am I picking hundreds of herbs, mining hundreds of ore nodes, completing dozens of useless, unimportant side tasks for unimportant people...

Part of the problem is that Bioware had this grand story about a powerful Inquisitor, then tried to cram standard MMO-type repetitive, useless and unimportant quests in, without asking themselves: does this fit in with the story? Would a person of this stature and importance be out in the field picking flowers instead of fighting dragons? Why do they have to close 75 (yes, 75) rifts?

Overall a good game, but I could never bring myself to repeat it. DA2 got it right: resource gathering is limited to finding a handful of ore/resource nodes, then you get an unlimited supply of them, and your crafting is limited only by your gold. In DAI, if you want to upgrade your potions, you need to gather 40+ Elfroot. Damnit.

 

If Dovakhiin didn't complain about it, why should Inquisitor?

So yeah, I tried DAI and first impressions are quite positive, except that horrible inventory. It's The Witcher 2 all over again... I do like added jump functionality - it kinda adds more to "open wordliness."
I will play a bit more and see how I like it then. Who knows, I may like it well enough to let EA shove Origin up my...in my throat...

Now I wonder, how far is 8800GT from 9800GT. Wonder if I might be able to play GTA V as well...

 

9800 GT is a die shrink of 8800 GT. They have identical specs otherwise.

I wouldn't count on it. My 8800 GT had a tough time running BF3 as it was 3 years ago. 720p Low ~30 FPS. GTA V might be similar if R* is actually being realistic with the minspec.

 

I will still test drive V. DAI runs reasonably well on my lappy, so it kinda gave me hope .