Far Cry 4

this is my score: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4700MQ,Alienware 068R5X

there's not many scores for single 760 systems though there's one but the scores seem way too high to be believed to be a valid result and it's the only one in it's own category (11,000 or so firestrike score for a 760 is suspect).

most scores i've seen in reviews for a stock/referenceGTX 760 are seeing about 500 points less than mine in both overall and graphics scores and most of them are running with most of the rigs used in the reviews are using Windows 7 and older drivers.

one review as an example: MSI GeForce GTX 760 Gaming OC 2GB Video Card Review in SLI and 2D Surround - Page 10 of 15 - Legit Reviews3DMark 2013 and EVGA GeForce GTX 760 SuperClocked w/ ACX Cooling Video Card Review - Page 10 of 16 - Legit Reviews3DMark 2013

just look at the firestrike scores for the 760 2GB (overall - 5556, graphics - 5906). my overclock is even beating some factory overclocked 760s....easily beating both EVGA 760 superclocked and the MSI 760 OC cards.

but still i think it is a rough guess that my OC'd 780m is equiv to a 760 but still hard to be sure since there's so much variance in the rigs and even in the testing software.

 

Yep, just because an i7 is on the enthusiast/server platform doesn't necessarily mean it's an Extreme Edition.

1. Driver updates
2. 3DMark updates
3. Fire Strike artificially inflates Windows 8 scores

 

Yeah, most 760s etc are SUPREMELY overclocked when people run em in those tests. Since your GPU score is literally within 8 points of mine, I can affirm your 780M is working fine. Your combined score however, is extremely high; and your Physics score is less than mine, resulting in an overall higher score. I do not understand the benchmark at all. Anyway, if you set that machine to 1006/6000 on your 780M, you HAVE a stock 680 (assuming its boost is not sitting at 1058 constantly). I was able to get to 1030 (only ran at 1020) on 1.0375v, so you should be able to get closer to the 1058 on yours (just your cooling system to keep up I suppose) if you want to keep a stock 680 as performance. And a 680 beats any stock (even factory OC'd) 760 you'll find. If those are your daily clocks, you're better than both the 660Ti and 760.

That being said, when you're ultra-hunting in games these days (especially ones which are designed for 30fps and have it very difficult to gain 60fps, like The Evil Within near launch) then you'll find it's just not enough anymore. But it's not that your card is underperforming. Don't worry about that.

What *I* want to know is how the hell your combined score tore through mine? I would assume it was because I forced it to run single GPU or because I had a second monitor up or some such thing, but... Why is yours so high? My brain is drawing a blank here.

 

Yeah. I always thought that the -E in the line meant "extreme". That was my mistake.

Also, yeah I know drivers, 3DMark and win 8... but geez. Such a huge score jump? Didn't expect that much; only about 1000 or so.

 

The first gen Nehalem i7-965 and i7-975 were indeed "extreme edition" chips despite not having the "X" designation in their names.

 

680 boosts to 1110 MHz, not 1058 MHz.

Yeah but they had 'Extreme Edition' in their name.

 

Was going by nVidia's website. But thanks for the heads up.

Edit: And pictures like this

Spoiler

 

Hmmm I wonder why Nvidia lists only average boost and not max boost (1058 is exactly halfway between 1006 and 1110). Oh well.

 

I don't know. nVidia doesn't seem to realize that some of their site information is just wrong. Well, I do know someone with a 680 reference... might ask him to check what it boosts to and report back to me. BUT that is tomorrow *passes out*

 

So you don't trust me, huh?

GPU-Z, incomplete as always...

 

Can't sleep, insomnia as usual >_<. Also, I love how the est max is 1110 and the boost is 1058. #GoodJobnVidia

 

lol much ado about nothing go play some games or something you two

As for 965 and 975 simply trying to explain how D2 may have gotten confused since they were Extreme Edition chips without the X designation.

 

n=1, as I recall, you started this latest round of OT.

However, to bring this full circle, yes I will go back to playing my non-Ubisoft games. There, now we're back on topic.

 

i may have 680 clocks but not seeing a 680 score that's not set at the base clock.

i have tried clocking it to 770 speeds but that resulted in flickering and different coloured points of light (either red, green, or blue) flashing so i don't think i can't go any higher and i have tried bumping the voltage up as well but to no avail.

 

Probably because the 680 runs at 1110mhz when running a benchmark. Nearly 100mhz higher than your 780M is going to set it apart. Your ram is running at 1500mhz which is the same as the 680 so should be on par there. Unless your cpu is holding you back.

My 680M seems to get to similar limits to your 780M. 1006mhz is the limit for in game stability at 1.025V. I got only 980mhz at 1V. So I don't see much point in pushing to 1.05V....wish I had your vram though 1150mhz is pathetic coming from a 7970M that I used to run at 1450mhz 24/7.

 

Hi All,

I'm currently playing Far Cry 4 on the laptop in my sig. I'm only getting avg 25-30 FPS on High settings with textures and environment at Very High and was thinking of overclocking due to the lack of Crossfire support. My question is there any point overclocking the CPU (2960XM) or will I just OC the 6990M? Both are running at stock speeds at the moment.
Thank for any help.

 

Has anybody tryied to put far cry 4 on ssd?does ssd solve stuttering???

 

Why is this system requirements bot not banned yet?!

Edit: Thank you, mods. :thumbsup:

 

Can I play this game with my 860m? I was able to play Far Cry 3 on maximum.

 

I am fine with it beating most factory overclocked 760s so it just means I will need to adjust accordingly.

 

Well there's no way you're getting 770 speeds (at least memory) without one of those MSI cards with the... is it FC04 RAM? Or FC03? One of the two. Whichever one Clevos use is the not-going-to-OC-a-ton vRAM (and I think AW has them too).

The core you should be able to push higher though. As far as Octiceps said, the boost is in fact 1110MHz on the 680, so you'd need to get that speed to match a stock 680's scores (with 6000MHz memory). But you've got a fine base clock; I wish I could keep that kind of clock 24/7 and never crash.

 

So you think the artefacts I was experiencing are caused by bumping up the vram clocks? I was seeing the screen flicker and coloured dots that look like little Xmas tree lights.

Will check the ram type when I get home.

 

Yes, I believe so. I suggest trying a core OC to around 1100MHz and leaving memory at 6000, then seeing if you can acquire similar to 680 reference scores in your benches. Still wondering why your combined score was better though.

 

No harm in trying though kinda ok with beating a 760 regardless.

 

there's a base clock, the boost clock, and what i call the max observed clock. in this case the 1110 is the max observed.

EDIT: looks like i can't max out to 1100 either... oh well i still beat a GTX 760!

 

Welp. #nVidia

 

Hopefully there's no long term damage

last test i did was at 1100/6000 @ 1.087v and it crashed so i am ok with sticking with my GTX 680 base clocks. though i'd be interested to see what the score would be if the GTX 680 was locked to the base clock and see if i am in the same range looking at 680 reviews they score about P9400 and I was about P8300 so about 1100 (ha!) points off - so if i leap even further that means an extra 80-90MHz will yield that 1000 or so points.

 

What did you use to test? I was able to get SLI 1030/6000 (only hit 1020 on core though) at 1.0375v stable enough for Firestrike runs. Maybe you have a bad overclocker? XD

 

I actually feel Firestrike isn't that good for testing stability. I've had Firestrike stable clocks that instantly crashed when running 3DMark11, whether on Performance or Xtreme preset.

 

the demo run from 3dMark 11.

looks like it, but going from 850 to 1019 is pretty good for an OC

 

The ultimate benchmark of GPU stability is if your OC passes an overnight run of Unigine Heaven or Valley maxed out.

 

My stability test is Orcs Must Die 2. If I don't crash in THAT game, it's stable. I have kept 950/6000 clocks for ages, play BF4 for like 8 hours straight. Leave PC on, watch twitch streams, next day play Orcs Must Die 2 for like 15 minutes, crash. #INoUnderstand

 

so 3dmark 11 is no good?

i haven't had issues with the games i have been playing so far.

 

If it's the free version, then not really. 720p isn't demanding enough, plus there are too many pauses for loading and you can't loop it endlessly. GPU usage fluctuates quite a bit over the course of a 3DMark run (I've logged it) due to the aforementioned pauses and the fact that it's not a purely GPU-bound benchmark like Heaven or Valley, where usage is basically maxed out the whole time.

Keep in mind that if you put tessellation on extreme in Heaven, it becomes more demanding than Valley. I've had clocks survive Valley overnight but fail Heaven after a few hours. However, Valley is the more balanced benchmark for comparing scores, not for stability testing, as AMD cards score disproportionately low in Heaven due to their architecture's weaker tessellation performance.

 

i have the paid version and i dislike doubt seeping in. FC4 hasn't been unstable due to OC, just certain aspects of it were unstable. Dragon Age: Inquisition is fine though it does randomly crash without error and with others reporting the same problem nor does it kill my OC. BF4 is also stable. Titanfall is also stable so i think that's enough total real world game time to tell me it's stable overall.

 

Grid 2 in attract mode or repeat benchmark mode will put it through its paces. CPU and GPU and RAM.

 

Yeah this is why these days I tend to rely less on synthetics and more on real-life use. Basically use common benchmarks to run a first pass stability test (typically 1-2 hours), then just jump right into my typical routine and see if the system holds up. I'm sure the overclocking purists will cringe at what I just said but it's worked out for me thus far.

I've had my 4900MQ pass 12 hours in Prime95 only for it to throw random physics glitches in games (GPU was at stock). Likewise I've had my 970 pass a 6 hour loop in Heaven but throw a gray screen in Serious Sam 3 after 45 minutes. At least for the CPU one plausible explanation is Prime95 only stresses certain instruction sets.

 

If everything is stable at stock, then you only have your OC to blame. I know, it can be tough admitting that an OC isn't stable.

As do the Metro 2033 and Last Light built-in benchmarks. When I'm overclocking multiple components, I like to run these kinds of the tests at the end after I've isolated and tested each overclocked component individually with Heaven, Prime95, etc.

Hitman: Absolution has the toughest canned game benchmark I've ever seen. In addition to working the GPU hard, it's also one of the toughest games on the CPU, especially the benchmark sequence with its crowd simulation. And my laptop's 2GB VRAM simply can't handle 8x MSAA at 1080p. Tons of swapping-induce stuttering. It probably needs at least 3GB or so as my 7950, while also maxed out on the VRAM, doesn't stutter. The frame rate is still super low though. I just wish I could loop the Hitman: Absolution benchmark; it would make an ideal test.

 

Like I said I haven't run into any issues so far with real world use.

 

But you said some games were unstable? How do they run without OC? Obviously, FPS would be lower, but are they more stable?

 

they were unstable because they weren't properly optimized or it was a bug in the game and their issues didn't cause my system to crash the GPU clocks. bf4 is stable at stock and OC, same with many other games.

EDIT: hoping to get some paying work so i can buy a 980m and keep the 780m as a backup until i am comfortable enough with the 980m to sell the 780m.

 

For the CPU stressing, I think that program Dufus showed me called "Linpack" is the most brutal thing I've ever seen. It has managed to induce thermal throttling on my CPU at -50mV at STOCK speeds. I left the current and power limit high in the BIOS just in case... freaking CPU package ended up drawing over 75W just doing the bench. WITHOUT using hyperthread cores, mind you. Stock clocks, loosened the power draw, over 75W draw. I fear what it'll do to a 5930K. Might draw 500W if it manages to keep its temps stable

Please note the highest I can make my CPU go under most normal circumstances is around 85 degrees on a single core, if I near-force 100% while gaming/streaming/using ~9GB of RAM in various programs/teamspeak/music/etc in my current setup. That thing sent it straight to 98.

 

I suck at this game. Died twice after the prologue. I didn't know what I was doing. Throwing dead animal guts at people, trying to stab people because I could, but couldn't...

 

oh man, so much fun just trying to take out an outpost from a buzzer and a grenade launcher

just need the ride of the valkryies song to go with it! LOL

 

*hums 'Ride of the Valkryies'*

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Your best bet would be to upgrade straight to a 970m. 6990m is 130% slower and hotter stock for stock. Ocing the 6990m will only increase the heat it already puts out!

I owned both the 6990m and 7970m now also getting old and the 7970m was already much more efficient!

2960xm is still very decent. Clock it to 4ghz and you will have zero problems in the CPU department for many years!

 

Same here.. Hoping to get some paid work to get a new laptop

The 970M hasn't been confirmed working in the M18x R1 yet... If Mr Fox tests the 980M and it work's in the R1, that would be a massive upgrade for R1 users

 

I have finally found a clockspeed that is both stable and with a decent framerate with all settings at max. My conclusion 1032mhz on the 680M is required for a smooth experience on ultra in FC 4. Surprised to see a big difference between 1006 and 1032mhz!



Not so wimpy compared with the 780M...if it had comparable vram bandwidth the 780M isn't much better!

 

I'm doing some survival jobs and that's what the pay is like...enough to cover the essentials! Really would like to get more tattoos done as well.

 

Well I'm trying to get some private tution so I can earn so decent money... This is of course till I start my full time job in September...