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    Far Cry 6

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by cucubits, Jul 12, 2020.

  1. JRE84

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    look at gta 5 huge but dense....farcry 6 just needs a long story
     
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    Not really. Los Santos is good, but everything up north was underutilized in single player.
     
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    Get this https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1558194-REG/asus_g532lws_ds76_15_6_republic_of_gamers.html

    Save yourself $1K
     
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    You can get a lot more laptop than the Aorus for that kind of money or get the same power and spend less.

    I'd avoid the 20 series because they cost almost the same as the 30 series but are going to have less legs; despite the complaints about the lackluster improvement it is an improvement nevertheless.

    You also need to be careful about power; that Aorus is beaten by a good many 3070s due to the low power. You really have to watch the power when you're buying nowadays. In the 5ish pound chassis I'd be wanting 150 for a 380 and 130 for a 3070. As you get thinner the power necessarily goes down due to thermal limits.

    I'd also carefully consider the idea of getting a 15" screen. With the smaller bezels nowadays a 17 is going to be similar in size to a 15" laptop just a few years ago. More importantly they're often very similar in weight and use the same power supplies. The laptop you linked is only 3/4 of a pound less than my 17 " Prometheus for example. On the other hand it's significantly less powerful and has a lower thermal capability. So while you won't notice the difference in the backpack you'll very much appreciate the extra screen size every time you use it.

    That would bring me to the related spec of screen resolution. If you're not twitch gaming QHD is going to give you a configuration better suited to loading the graphics adaptor. On a 17" screen even an old man like me can run the desktop at the native resolution and that extra space is much appreciated when doing actual work. My preference would be to go all the way to 4k but mobile 4k gaming is still not legit. In the meantime at QHD you'll have a good compromise that can fully leverage your card and produce playable frame rates for everything that isn't twitch gaming. Because I need mine for chores I'd actually prefer 16:10 but there are few options with that ratio.

    I'd want a Mux switch.
     
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    hmm...noted

    I think a 3080 and 1080p is overkill and will be outdated in 4 years anyways im thinking 2070..cheaper and still very powerful..

    I like the idea of thin and light but all my laptops thick or thin just sit on a desk so I guess thats out the window..what about the ge66 or ge 76 and yes ive been gaming on 16 inch and under laptops for 15 years but I might make the switch to QHD and 17.....anything stand out?
     
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    Yeah FC4 was like that. Even though it had more features and improvements than FC3 it was still a chore to play and it became too repetitive. A lot of useless quests and random events happens too often especially getting attacked by eagles.

    I think he should go with at least a RTX 3060 laptop if he can find one at a good price. I dont know any other gaming laptops that uses the 115w(RTX 3060) besides Lenovo's Legion series. RTX 3060 = RTX 2070 Super
     
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    i dont normally disagree with you but did you not find the map in gta v fun to explore heck the water parts are even bigger....its like a flippin country
     
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    Like you say sure if it's the full power 3060, good luck finding that info, would most definitely cost more. If he really wants 144hz he'll either have to limit his search for that or get an external 144hz screen. One benefit of an overpowered card at 1080p is if you get a higher res/refresh screen to output to.

    Edit: NBC seems to not be updating it's list but look at those prices ouch

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Compr...U-along-with-corresponding-TGPs.517260.0.html
     
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    Fun but not much mission type of stuff to do, trinket hunts excepted of course. The mod mission packs helped a bit. I've thought that these huge worlds are largely AI procedurally generated using maps data etc and then gone over a few times for detailing by actual humans as deemed necessary.
     
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    It's likely 1080 (HD) will be outdated by that time in the mid range and up and it's a poor choice for both a 2070 or 3070 right now unless twitch gaming is your thing which is why I recommended considering QHD.

    As to cost you don't save much with a 2070 vs 3070, when looking at otherwise similar specs across the spectrum of new laptops. If there was a significant savings you have a value case for the 2070 but that doesn't hold up well in the current market with your criteria which is legs versus dollars if I understand you correctly. That probably doesn't go to the 2070 which isn't much less money in a like configuration but will be out to pasture sooner.

    All these things run together; are related. As soon as you get to the 2070 and up if you're not a twitch gamer you can better leverage your graphics at QHD. Once you're QHD most people are going to find the desktop can be run natively on a 17 inch screen and will be quite pleased with the extra space to say nothing of the sharper text and that sort of thing. Because modern 17" laptops usually use the same power supply as their 15" sisters the total package will often be less than a pound apart and the difference will go largely unnoticed in a backpack. Because you're already looking at a 2070 and the pricing isnt too far off 3070 pricing on similarly configured laptops (both 8 core, same drives, ram, etc.) you automatically have to make a value judgement between them.

    All this really stems from a rather weak price reduction for the 20 series, usually the cheaper ones you see are a poor configuration, have 4 cores, etc. Things a guy that wants legs should probably say no to for the most part. On the other hand a well configured laptop with a 2070 won't be far off of the same laptop with a 3070. I'm not against 2070s but the current market is whacked and they're not as compelling as they should be, would be, if it were not for shortages distorting the pricing.
     
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    @hertzian56 nailed it.
     
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    I'm targeting 4k 90hz minimum on my next purchase, 4k 120hz oled screen
     
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    Pain...

    Gonna say its bad time to buy a laptop right now especially with the shortage problems atm

    The cheapest RTX 3060 i can find is the Gigabyte G5 KC

    https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E168342...&cm_re=rtx_3060 laptop-_-34-233-449-_-Product
     
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    It's a bit of a push but I'm rooting for you. My gaming lapatop is actually the last thing in the house that isn't 4k; I would absolutely go there if we had enough juice. I am omitting the idevice Mrs krab has, not sure what it is or the screen resolution but it's old and rather pathetic. I keep offering to buy her another but she insists it's good enough then uses my laptop even though hers is sitting right next to her. Yes. I'm complaining. :(
     
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    With normal games its achievable. And future AAA titles will likely have DLSS/FSR anyways so its a pretty achieveable target. The minimum bar for 4080 mobile should be around a desktop 3080 performance anyways so i should be fine. I do crave 1.5x 3080 performance though so i can run my Reverb G2 in all its glory. But some more recent rumours with Lovelace using 5nm Samsung which is barely any better than non-EUV 7mm TSMC doesn't bode well especially for mobile parts.

    Still hoping that lovelace will be cancelled and Hopper will be used. MCM & TSMC 5nm will be awesome.

    4K 120hz+ OLED panels are more uncertain though. Samsung seems to have an extremely long product cycle and their upcoming "gaming" oled panels are only 90hz. And there has been no news from AUO about their OLED panels.
     
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    I know it's not something most here would choose but I'd love to be bouncing on 90 in 4k with HDR outputted to an OLED screen.
     
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    this game is looking pretty awesome check this out
     
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    Looks nice, the problem every Farcry game is the gameplay, its so repetitive....i havent finish a farcry game from number 3..every game is the same, the put some new stuff but not enough and it the end was to boring. my2c :).
    Still hope this one will be different..
     
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    I haven't watched the whole video yet, but doesn't anyone know if there you can fly in the game? I hope they didn't remove that from the far cry formula with this one.
     
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    Looks nice! The setting is as far as one can get from FarCry5 but that can be a good thing. To be honest 5 was the best one for me. I just loved how ridiculous those religious nuts were and how they sadly still fit into real life around the US. But I digress... can't wait to try 6.

    Probably yes on flying, I saw a plane POV at about 3:55 mark in the video.
     
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    True. FC3 is the best one after FC1. FC4 and FC5 was too repetitive.

    I beat FC4 twice but could never finish FC5 because it got too boring and repetitive. I dont expect anything different from FC6 but im going to be optimistic about it.
     
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    IM LIKING THE VARIETY OF WEAPONS
     
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    It's so strange how differently some see these games. I can't explain why but I couldn't finish FC3, don't know why, just didn't feel it. On the other hand I enjoyed FC4 a lot (except those shangri-la missions, I hated those) and FC5 was the best overall.

    Maybe I should revisit FC3.
     
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    Me 2. I just hope they don't go overboard with the forced action and keep some stealth in. Starts giving me Just Cause vibes... which is not great for a Far Cry game...
     
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    I hated all the stealth missions but loved the ones with lots of action. I don't do stealth. Fast and loud all the way man.
     
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    Everyone has different tastes and there nothing wrong with it.

    Yeah you should revisit FC3, it maybe kinda outdated compared to FC4 and FC5 but at least it was original. I might try to revisit FC5 when i have time
     
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    im more excited to shoot down a chopper with fireworks than halo infinite multiplayer
     
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    welp almost here and its looking good...any takers
     
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    I was ready and willing to order it for me and a work friend to play together, then I couldn't find any way to gift it on Uplay. Would be very awkward having to hand him cash or some other oddball method. I may still end up getting it but it's enough to make me think twice about it. And FC5 being my favorite due to being modern and in the US, means I will likely be let down no matter how good it is.
     
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    Don't want to create a new thread, but FarCry 3 is free from Ubisoft Connect until September 11.

    Explore - Ubisoft Connect
     
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    looks retarded
     
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    After watching several gameplay videos, I think FC5 has better graphics? And FC6 character models look low poly to me o_O
     
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    yeah it's bizzare PUBG on mobile set to ultra everything and HD textures looks better than farcry 6.....somethings wrong in my world when huge powerful consoles don't push the same graphics as a tiny phone...

    also My dad gave me his old LG 3d tv so I checked out a 3d IMAX movie and I was blown away...fish were swimming in my living room..how does something that cool and natural die...I remember people saying it's a gimmick... our vision is in 3d so what thats a gimmick also? it really goes to show even with an IQ of 100 (global average) 100 is quite low when it comes to our definition of smart....a few orders of magnitude
     
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    I think the biggest problem was that there was not enough content to justify buying into the hardware.

    The glasses were also problematic because many TVs released with glasses that were uncomfortable, they often didn't fit well for those who wore corrective lenses, and young children really struggled with them.

    Then you've got the content itself: For every Avatar there were 5 Piranha 3Ds and to go back to the beginning; there just wasn't that much of it. I think I've maybe got something like 20 to 30 titles and I bought everything even remotely interesting.

    I did my part; I bought in way early. Plasma rolled the roost then and the early 3D efforts included another reason many would have been turned off: Eye watering prices.
     
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    yeah but one of my cell phones had glasses free 3d....was cutting edge by now glasses free 3d tv should be main stream
     
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    Yes i also sold my LG 3dtv recentley, kinda sad , i loved the 3d tech, reallly kinda weird that i died , was nice, and the implementation of LG with the passive glasses was good, is still have around 20 3d blu rays around, bought every marvel movies in 3d and of course avatar and gravity, really great flick in 3d. I still hope 3d will make a comeback, some sick 4k or 8k in 3d panels would be nice to have.
     
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    Two different things; it's much easier to create a 3D experience near field in a defined plane and distance with little concern for off-axis viewing. With a TV you've got to cover significantly off-axis viewing and highly variable viewing distances in a single room and during the same viewing.

    You also have two different markets: At the time many people were upgrading their phones yearly or every two years whereas TV had much longer upgrade cycles. The 3D TVs were getting mainstream pricing by the end of the era but it's wasn't an easy sell without content: They couldn't get cheap enough to get someone to upgrade just to watch the tiny bit of available content.

    You're probably right about the glasses in terms of adoption. If the tech was widely available and glasses free you would see more and more content over time. It wouldn't happen overnight though because you've got to get people to make the content and the content needs to be worth watching. Just another of the many issues with 3D was that a lot of the content was trash, not just technically, but artistically.
     
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    if a 4k oled 3d tv came out id save and jump on the tv.....3d needs too come back...z axis is important
     
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    The AI badly needs a upgrade and plus this is what happens when a franchise runs out of ideas. Waiting for a sale then i might buy it.
     
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    freekin retarded is all i can think.....the video is a thought stopper....cant think must say.....retarded
     
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    Just watched it now thinking you're crazy or something :))) boy I was wrong. It actually is stupid, the AI seems pretty bad, gun sounds are uninspired to say the least, animations look like from a game quite a few years old.

    It's like they took Far Cry 5, dialed down graphics and AI a bit, slapped on tropical textures and released this.
     
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    3D movies are still a thing though. Home 3D is whats dead. You can't even get 4K 3D, only 1080p 3D and the only way to watch them is to either use an old flagship tv or a VR headset.

    So Far Cry 3 basically.
     
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    "My dad gave me his old LG 3d tv so I checked out a 3d IMAX movie and I was blown away...fish were swimming in my living room..how does something that cool and natural die..."

    That is what I was responding to; I'm a home theater guy so I'm up on the tech, the timelines, had all the gear. My youngest has the last of my 3D TVs; also gave her all my disks.
     
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    Yeah I have VR and watch some 3d content with it if not all...vr this big clunky headset is unintrusive yet tiny paper lite glasses are too much....that was my point..like the world seems nvm..its sad when a AAA cell phone game looks better than a AAA pc game from 2017 vs 2021

    as for farcry 6, sometimes games can be presented and represented poorly and actually be great games....no i don't have any examples lol but im really just crossing my fingers and toes hoping this game wont be awful...the graphics look terrible the AI is like simple jack..and the idea of a killer rooster would turn off a 3 yearold kid
     
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    I hope using the animals as weapons will end up being optional...
     
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    Holy sh... this games looks really bad, ill pass it even if i get it for free..they should retire the series..every game is just a recycle of the old one..
     
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    Far Cry 6 Tech Q&A – Ray Tracing, FSR Only Available on PC; SSDs Are the Most Impressive Next-Gen Feature wccftech.com

    Far Cry 6 is finally only a couple of weeks away from launching, after missing its previous release date of February 18th due to COVID-19 related development challenges.

    With the game's development now concluded, we were able to arrange a brief interview with Ubisoft 3D Team Lead Programmer Stephanie Brenham where we dive into the main tech features of Far Cry 6, such as ray tracing, FSR, and much more.
     
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    yeah realistically will anyone buy this turd...im guessing like 10 million people
     
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