G-sync coming to notebooks with 75Hz displays?

That has to be supported directly by the panel, as far as I know. There's ways people have been doing it on panels before but any time I look, it's limited to specific panels and the program basically requires you to input your actual panel.

Dude. Stop. You're thinking too hard.

Physical requirements for notebook Gsync:
Notebook panel in correct eDP slot (any eDP slot from 2012 or later should be compatible)
No Optimus
nVidia GPU

nVidia-placed requirements
"Key" in system BIOS containing nVidia-set panel (and possibly GPU).

That's it. Refresh rate does not matter. Nothing else matters. Your notebook panel CANNOT handle it due to being a LVDS connected panel. My notebook can handle it due to the eDP connected panel. You connecting an eDP panel (such as the one used in the P770ZM-G OR the one in my notebook) will clear your hardware requirements (as SLI means no Optimus and you obviously have nVidia GPUs). The problem is that without that key in your BIOS (which Prema *MAY* be able to tweak to include the 120Hz panel model and our GPUs (if necessary); NO GUARANTEES), even with a compatible screen, the drivers won't "unlock" Gsync for you. I.E. nVidia wants money and doesn't want people with older (superior in most cases) notebooks benefitting from "free gsync" as the eDP panels don't need a chip installed into the machine.

Also, the panels are 60Hz. They cherry picked them and set the BIOS to register them as 75Hz default, but that is in essence a BIOS-level screen overclock. They are not 75Hz panels. Do not buy one of the panels that they're using for 17" gsync notebooks and assume it's going to be 75Hz OR that you will get it to be 75Hz out of the box.

 

Really hoping that all I need is a BIOS update. MSI pls.

 

@D2 Ultima Sorry just excited for all this new stuff, and I have no reason to try and buy one of these "75hz" display panels I have a 120hz edp display with the cable I think its the same display you have in your laptop, I am just to chicken to install it and xotic said they can't do it either so I am just stuck with it :/ thanks for clearing things up

 

https://www.mythlogic.com/contact-mythlogic.php

 

@D2 Ultima I already contacted them they said only after my 3 yr warranty is up will they install it for me, so unfortunately I dunno what to do next, if you have any other idea's of how the heck I can get this display installed please please feel free to let me know otherwise its just going to sit around and collect dust :/

 

You can ask a normal repair shop and provide them with the service manual.

 

Wish there were more 15" laptops that use G-Sync, while the CLEVO is great the Aorus X5 is OK. They should just implement it in all laptops if possible.
I see it helping more in lower tiered GPU's and not only the high end 970M/980M.
Exciting stuff.

 

I'm really hoping for 144Hz 1440p G-SYNC displays on some Clevo's with Pascal. Would be absolutely gorgeous.

 

DP and eDP are different

 

I'll settle for 1080p/120Hz IPS G-Sync at this point.

 

75Hz really is all that's necessary with a single 980m IMHO. Most games don't exceed 75 FPS. I know with faster refresh it's that much bit more refined, but not necessary. Maybe for an SLI rig, I'd say 120Hz would be needed, but maybe that's in the works.

 

If I had a 120Hz panel, I'd turn the settings down until I could hit it.

But honestly all I care about is G-Sync. Gimme now.

 

144Hz 1440p G-SYNC with 1080M (Pascal)

 

I think I didn't mention about DP anywhere there, Aren't those eDPs? Can you enlighten me ?

Thanks !

 

There is a DP 1.2a specification, which adds Adaptive-Sync. There is no eDP 1.2a. eDP has had Adaptive-Sync since 1.0 and PSR since 1.3.

 

I may have missed it earlier in the thread, but XoticPC has the ZM-G models for sale... adds to the price but not as bad as the premium external monitors add. That 17" IPS model looks tasty... but the 4K 15.6" does as well.

EDIT:
Corrected Typo/accidental profanity.

 

It should be free, but nGreedia charges OEMs for that license cookie in the sBIOS

 

DP is the external Display Port, eDP is the embedded Display Port for the internal screen.

 

I know only about the basics but I got it cleared now

Ok. Many thanks @octiceps !!

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Just to summarize & info : As discussed earlier, The DT monitors doesn't have the PSR / Alternative to eDP 1.3 so they need a G-Sync module and the Laptops have this eDP feature inbuilt so nGreedia is milking it's chance, On a side note AMD uses the Adaptive-sync DP 1.2a for the FreeSync (A lot of ghosting with Free Sync which is ugly and worthless)...Too bad AMD gets nailed everywhere they step foot into, HBM all the way for team RED.
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/acce...ync-amd-and-nvidia-face-off-for-adaptive-sync

 

I don't think this is the fault of AMD/FreeSync, it's that the monitors themselves don't support variable overdrive

 

That would be best buys geek squad so no thank you don't trust them


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He said "normal" repair shop.

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the closest thing to one would be best buy for some reason the town I live in doesn't really have any computer shops even if it did I dunno if I would trust a normal computer repair shop with something like this

 

Guys there is hope for you i think...
http://gamenab.net/2015/06/28/good-news-g-tools-beta-2/

download before nGreedia will put that site down...

I wanted GE62 but now when G-sync can work on older GT72 I will probably buy this one with 970M. (1kg more won't hurt me much (G-sync is worth it)...

 

Was just about to post this link haha. Not working on the Aorus X7 Pro

 

We need to see G-Sync in less expensive laptops which I think would be better match than those that only use top end GPU's.
If you have a 970M/980M you can play around with the settings and have minimal tearing and still be smooth without G-Sync but with the mid-range GPU's you can only do so much .

 

We also need mobile g-sync to come to monitors in the same fashion as free sync. Let the scaler chips continue on with all those "bells and whistles" on start offering both.

 

There is no substitute! No, really, even if you deactivate G-sync and run below LCD refresh, there is a noticeable difference in how smooth everything looks.

 

I totally believe that but nVidia needs to spread the love around and not only have $2K+ laptops with the feature.

 

Read your review of the new Sager, curious, is it a must have feature in a new laptop now in your opinion? I've yet to experience one, and being I have Optimus I can't try out an external either unfortunately. I love the idea of it, but can't pick up on the true benefit in user videos.

And well, while off topic, gotta ask after re-reading your reviews this afternoon, if one was pondering between the P750ZM-G or P770ZM-G, would you sway one way or the other?

 

It all depends on your screen size preference really. I like the P770ZM-G because it has 1080p G-sync where the P750ZM-G is only 4k G-sync @ 60FPS (for now). I wouldn't say it's a "must have" but it's a "nice to have". It's kind of like going from a 60Hz LCD to 120Hz LCD TV. It's nice to have, but you get used to it quickly, but after you've watched the 120Hz for a while, it's kinda hard to go back to 60Hz.

 

Cool, that's an analogy I can understand. Glad to see this tech move to notebooks.

And thanks again for your great reviews, I reference back to them all the time!

I've never had issues with Optimus for years up until this latest round of fullscreen issues in some games, not sure what's going on, but it has me looking hard at these new machines. Wife ain't gonna be too happy when Sager announces a Skylake refresh of a g-sync equipped P7x0ZM-G ha

 

I think G-sync is the right direction, and it makes sense. Too bad it's a higher priced proprietary and limited technology. It's something everyone could benefit from. I was hoping Freesync would take off and force the technology across the board. I just think it's a natural progression of things.

 

Gamenab claims to have the G-Sync cookie for the Asus G751, not sure if it's real as I don't have the technical knowledge to assess it's legitimacy
Here are the links:
http://gamenab.net/2015/07/03/fiy/ (link to download cookie found on this page)
http://gamenab.net/2015/07/03/bios-information-for-g-sync/ (Information on porting to other BIOS files)

http://we.tl/uMIa037I56 (cookie download link)

 

Looks like someone is getting sued? lol everything is gone from his website

 

I don't understand how he could get sued. Discovering something on your own if you're not under NDA or confidentiality isn't illegal, unless there is theft or extortion involved. It's like if you reverse engineered any technology and posted on how it works. Something just seems odd with that site. I can't imagine that it gets that many views, yet it's constantly being taken down.

 

Well he is saying they stole his coding and software and that he developed g-sync....pretty sure they could sue because of defamation of character?

 

Question for any that might know, apologies if this has been discussed, but if I bought a G-Sync enabled laptop, let's say a Clevo P7x0ZM-G w/ a 970m, if I wanted to upgrade the GPU down the road when Pascal is released, would I still have G-Sync? Or would I have to find a special version of the GPU?

Thanks

 

If they stole his coding then Nvidia is the one at fault. That is so hard to prove from either parties though. Nvidia has everything to gain by stealing such code, and I wouldn't put it past them. I would love this to go to court and show Nvidia was just a big cheating bully considering they're the ones charging a premium for the tech considering freesync also exists.

Great question. I'd like to know as well.

 

Yah I would be interested to see it in court also and I would be curious if using a diff gpu in a gsync laptop would work also I dunno how they could have coded in the bios for a gpu that is not out yet to be accepted


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Was following Gamenab about a week up until the take down, sad to see things go that way :/
Seems like he/she was really close to a solution too!

 

Gamenab is always "really close". So much many times already that I forgot when I decided he is troll. Because NONE of his work actually finished successfully.

 

Well, my guess is that nGreedia can prolong the case as long as that guy/gal is left without money for lawyer/s. I doubt that any truth would come out off this.

 

At least he gave us g tools b2 that works pretty well, not perfect but it works, do you know somebody who tried to gave us the same tool?

 

Still same Asus G751.
However if his G-tools Overclock Fix really works I change my mind.

 

don't know if this is fully related but has anyone overclocked a normal sager laptop monitor? 60hz is seeming boring

 

well actually I have just to test it out, but put it back to default to keep my warranty spiffy.....very easy to do

 

you can do it with nvidia control panel in the section where you can change the display ratio aspects, or there is also a program called CRU very easy to use also I got my 60hz display to be stable and OC'd to 90hz, played a few games then changed it back to 60hz once my warranty is up I might keep it there but hopefully I won't need to because I will have the 120hz display panel I bought installed in my laptop by then

**opps sry for double post I thought I was editing my first post to add this on sry admin

 

A couple of us have. I have my P771ZM (non G-Sync) running at 96 Hz.

 

96 Hz is a pretty dang good OC from 60hz I can get up around 90+ don't think I could get 96 Hz tho what brand display is in your machine? I think its LG is what they put in that model but not positive...I have a Chi Mei which I know nothing about that brand besides its in my laptop.....really wish I could find some one/where to install my 120hz display panel I have just sitting in its box collecting dust.....