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    GTA IV Performance

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by SVuser, Dec 1, 2008.

  1. saintalfonzo

    saintalfonzo Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm going to buy gtaIV in a year when it's $20 and my new desktop will spread the fps like buttah.
     
  2. lucirz

    lucirz Notebook Consultant

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    dont believe the hype, butter is actually every difficult to spread :D so you'll have to wait 2 more years at least before they invent a butter raping machine :D
     
  3. lucirz

    lucirz Notebook Consultant

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    depends on which resolution..actually it does not, even on medium setting with 800x600 you'll still lag like a mofo. i got an inspiron 1520 8600m gt 2.2 gbs duo2 and i shut off every programs even firefox or ie and i still lag. the prob with GTA iv is that in order not to lag so bad, you gotta play at low settings, BUT at low settings the gfx looks so ugly that you don't even wanna touch it lol.

    just get gta: SA bro, people say that its even better than gta iv gameplay wise. and bigger maps too. and since you can max out GTA:SA it'll look even better than gta iv at low settings haha

    i know what you are thinking, that i am BSing lol i thought the same thing when other people were saying the same things. cause even when people were saying that others games needed high end cards to play them, i was able to play them on the 8600mgt at med-high setting with decent fps. so i had much confidence in the 8600m gt but GTA IV just raped it badly lol
     
  4. WILLY S

    WILLY S I was saying boo-urns

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    Here's what you need:

    <object width='480' height='295'><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/nzJjIpVwoU4&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/nzJjIpVwoU4&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='480' height='295'></embed></object>

    I think i'll put an i7 in my future desktop whenever i have time to build one.
     
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  5. millermagic

    millermagic Rockin the pinktop

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    I have the time to build an i7, but no where near the money needed.
     
  6. Lucky3killer

    Lucky3killer Notebook Consultant

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    GTA IV is run so ok on my desktop but won't run on MacBook Pro due 128 MB VRAM in GPU.
     
  7. sama98b

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    Playable on my lg r700, even if it's 10-20fps.
    Settings make a little diff in fps, it is always the same 10-20.
     
  8. tuηay

    tuηay o TuNaY o

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    Do you have an idea about how turbomemory work?
    I have it on my qosmio x300-13o but it says 1024MB max in game but in propteries it is 2813mb and sharing video memory is 1789mb but somthing like reserved vide memory is 1024mb
     
  9. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Got my QX9300 today to replace my P8600. I went from about 27.5fps average to 35.5fps, and the QX9300 is not overclocked yet. This is also at 1680x1050, textures high, shaders highest
     
  10. Johnksss

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    well crank up fraps and get to running around town and post some pic's.

    nice to see you where you should be..in the quad core realm of things!.. :)
     
  11. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    I made a mistake on my last post. Resolution was at 1680x1050 instead of 1920x1200, which I thought it was.

    Anyways, I ran the benchmark again at 2.8ghz and got 38.8 fps at 1680x1050, and 34.5fps at 1920x1200, texture at high, shaders at highest. Due to my GPU memory max being at 512, I had to restart GTA IV a couple of times to get the thing to benchmark with high quality textures. Setting the texture to medium didn't change the average fps at the respective resolutions benchmarks.

    Cranking it up to 3ghz seems to be where things level off a bit. At 1920x1200, my best was 36.1 fps, but at 1680x1050, my best was 42.6. Most of the other runs were about 3-5 fps below my bests.
     
  12. -Amadeus Excello-

    -Amadeus Excello- Notebook Evangelist

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    New Patch

    Version 1.0.2.0
    GRAPHICS FIXES / ADDITIONS:

    * Graphics Menu:
    o Added "Water Quality", "Shadow Quality" and "Reflection Resolution" sliders in graphics menu.
    o Added "Definition" and "VSync" toggles in graphics menu.
    * Rendering optimizations.
    * VSync optimizations.
    * Nvidia 7000 series
    o Mirrors fixed

    PATCH 1 FIXES:

    * Direct input device support is now disabled by default and can only be enabled with the commandline: "-usedirectinput"
    * Supported Controllers:
    o Logitech Dual Action
    o Logitech RumblePad 2
    o Logitech Cordless RumblePad 2
    o Saitek P2500
    * Supported Wheels:
    * Note: Controls are unmapped, user must map controls using Manufacturer's mapping software.
    o Logitech G25 Racing Wheel
    o Logitech Wingman Formula GP Wheel
    o Logitech MOMO Racing
    o MOMO Force
    o Driving Force Pro
    o Driving Force
    o Formula Force
    * Added Commandline "-notimefix" which will help some users who are experiencing the fast/slow gameplay issue after patch 1 was applied.
    * Fixed a bug that caused some users to experience endless looping audio effects after Patch 1 was applied.
    * Benchmark was disabling sounds after Patch 1 was applied, this is now fixed.

    CRASH FIXES:

    * Unable to load game fixed - For some users, a DOS window would open and close immediately upon Game Launch, GTA IV would never launch.
    * Hang on Initial Game Loading Screen fixed - Some users experienced Character Art Loading screens in an endless loop.
    * Certain causes of the RESC10 error have been fixed (Alt-Tab, change resolution). If you experience an RESC10 error, you must restart.
    * Certain Instances of the "GRAND THEFT AUTO IV has encountered a problem and needs to close" error have been fixed.

    VIDEO EDITOR:

    * Naming clips is now mandatory on Export

    MULTIPLAYER:

    * Legitimate players being kicked from Multiplayer matches has been fixed.

    GENERAL ADDITIONS / FIXES:

    * Wireless 360 controllers not functioning - Triggers were full on/off, fixed.
    * In the Options menu accessed from the Title Screen a “Game” section has been added with the ability to turn Clip capture on/off.
     
  13. the_flying_shoe

    the_flying_shoe Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm gonna try that patch, hope I get some good results
     
  14. Kierkes

    Kierkes Misanthrope

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    Hopefully this will motivate me to reinstall GTAIV
     
  15. Magnus72

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    Definitely an improvement in performance :)
     
  16. tuηay

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    Im going to try that patch now, many players says it is improvemenet in performance....
     
  17. -Amadeus Excello-

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    The game is playable (and now enjoyable!) pursuant the latest patch.
     
  18. Shaythong

    Shaythong Notebook Evangelist

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    That's an interesting patch.
     
  19. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    I`m trying it on now...
     
  20. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Like holy cow... I can now play the game smooth at 1920x1200, high/highest details !!!!!
    This patch rendered the game AMAZING !
     
  21. ichime

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    I tried it, but I'm running it with two cores disabled and at the stock clock QX9300. Before I patched it, I ran the benchmark and got around 31 fps. After the patch, same score. Tampering with the extra options don't do much for me either.

    Also, I noticed that Rockstar responded to the lack of AA after being called out by that hitler parody with the Definition option. It's a poor man's AA, but it does reduce the jaggies, especially on far away objects.
     
  22. N00d13s

    N00d13s is too legit to quit!

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    i installed the patch, and it looks and runs a whole lot better on the same settings as i had before.
     
  23. GrxOne

    GrxOne Notebook Guru

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    Oke you just convinced me, going to reinstall and see for my self to :D
     
  24. Ayle

    Ayle Trailblazer

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    Does anybody with a midrange card have seen any improvment too?
     
  25. MainEvent

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    I've also heard promising things about the patch.

    Anybody with an 8600M DDR2 care to share their FPS rates?
     
  26. Drew90

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    I haven't tried the new patch yet, but these are my results with the 9600m GT DDR2, which is similar to your 8600m GT DDR2.

    Non-OC'd 1.0.1.0

    Code:
    Statistics
    Average FPS: 21.77
    Duration: 37.21 sec
    CPU Usage: 89%
    System memory usage: 63%
    Video memory usage: 93%
    
    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1280 x 800 (60 Hz)
    Texture Quality: Medium
    Render Quality: Medium
    View Distance: 20
    Detail Distance: 20
    
    Hardware
    Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium 
    Service Pack 1
    Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT [Dox Optimised 180.84]
    Video Driver version: 180.84
    Audio Adapter: Speakers and Dual Headphones (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8600  @ 2.40GHz
    
    File ID: benchmark.cli
    OC'd 1.0.1.0

    Code:
    Statistics
    Average FPS: 27.92
    Duration: 37.15 sec
    CPU Usage: 94%
    System memory usage: 66%
    Video memory usage: 96%
    
    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1280 x 800 (60 Hz)
    Texture Quality: Medium
    Render Quality: Medium
    View Distance: 20
    Detail Distance: 20
    
    Hardware
    Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium 
    Service Pack 1
    Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT [Dox Optimised 180.84]
    Video Driver version: 180.84
    Audio Adapter: Speakers and Dual Headphones (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8600  @ 2.40GHz
    
    File ID: Benchmark.cli
    Not great, but playable at least. I can get a little bit better results on the benchmark at a lower resolution, but 1280 x 800 looks the best to me in-game. Maybe I will try the patch, but I like playing without the CD. :cool:
     
  27. Huskerz85

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    I'm using a 512MB VisionTek HD 3850 and though I haven't done any benchmarks since installing the patch, I do notice things running smoother for longer, though the issue of random FPS drops/stuttering is still there (on default 1440x900--60MHz resolution)
     
  28. eleron911

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    The new patch improves performance a LOT, I vouge for that...
     
  29. the_flying_shoe

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    Hmm, my performance hasn't sky rocketed through the roof like others here, but, as huskerz85 said, I notice things running smoother for longer.
     
  30. cdnalsi

    cdnalsi Food for the funky people

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    Can anyone with the 9600M GT tried the new patch and got improvements in performance?
     
  31. Lum-X

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    Can some one post some benchmarks of GTA 4 with 1.2 patch.
     
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    i just loaded the patch and noticed that they have a few new settings.
    reflection resolution=very high
    water quality=very high
    shadow quality=very high
    render quality = very high
    definition
    vsync

    did everyone get these as well?

    edit: i see it's in the newest patch...
     
  33. tuηay

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    Yes bro, every one has...
     
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    didn't see any benchmarks with the new settings. that's why i asked.
     
  35. Rahul

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    I hear the game still doesn't have an option for anti-aliasing now does it? But the game is already quite demanding on hardware but still, I hear the PS3 version has 0AA and the 360 version has 2xAA, what about the PC?
     
  36. Magnus72

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    johnksss on my desktop I got an increase of around +10-15 fps :)

    No the PC does not have any AA and so far from what I can see of my 360 version that version doesn´t have any AA either, just the fake filter but the jaggies are still there.
     
  37. eleron911

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    I dunno about you Magnus, but on my XPS I run it high/very high and it`s super smooth...
     
  38. the_flying_shoe

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    Did you have to download the first patch to reap the performance benefits of the second patch?
     
  39. Johnksss

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    what is the resolution your running at on your desktop magnus?

    i ran everything on very high and got a whooping 26 fps@1920x1200 dx9<--corrected. thanks cdnalsi. forgot it isn't codded in dx10 yet.
    it brought back memories of crysis/very high 25 fps
     
  40. cdnalsi

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    There's no dx10 for GTA IV PC.

    I'm reinstalling the game as we speak, I'll report back with benchmarks for patch 2.
     
  41. Drew90

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    Please do! Maybe the performance gain will outweigh not playing with the CD.
     
  42. ichime

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    Their answer to Anti-Aliasing is the "definition" option. Turning it off mimics AA by making far objects less sharp.
     
  43. Lum-X

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    Statistics
    Average FPS: 23.64
    Duration: 37.23 sec
    CPU Usage: 97%
    System memory usage: 70%
    Video memory usage: 83%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1440 x 900 (60 Hz)
    Texture Quality: Medium
    Render Quality: High
    Reflection Resolution: High
    Water Quality: High
    Shadow Quality: Medium
    View Distance: 20
    Detail Distance: 20
    Definition: Off
    VSync: On

    Hardware
    Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium
    Service Pack 1
    Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS [[Dox Optimised 181.20: Quality]
    Video Driver version: 181.20
    Audio Adapter: Speakers / HP (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5550 @ 1.83GHz

    File ID: Benchmark.cli
     
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    Statistics
    Average FPS: 23.63
    Duration: 37.11 sec
    CPU Usage: 97%
    System memory usage: 65%
    Video memory usage: 100%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1280 x 720 (60 Hz)
    Texture Quality: Medium
    Render Quality: Very High
    Reflection Resolution: Very High
    Water Quality: Very High
    Shadow Quality: Very High
    View Distance: 20
    Detail Distance: 30
    Definition: Off
    VSync: On

    Hardware
    Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium
    Service Pack 1
    Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS [[Dox Optimised 181.20: Quality]
    Video Driver version: 181.20
    Audio Adapter: Speakers / HP (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5550 @ 1.83GHz

    File ID: Benchmark.cli
     
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    tatistics
    Average FPS: 18.81
    Duration: 37.27 sec
    CPU Usage: 97%
    System memory usage: 69%
    Video memory usage: 82%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1280 x 720 (60 Hz)
    Texture Quality: Medium
    Render Quality: High
    Reflection Resolution: High
    Water Quality: High
    Shadow Quality: Medium
    View Distance: 75
    Detail Distance: 100
    Definition: Off
    VSync: On

    Hardware
    Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium
    Service Pack 1
    Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS [[Dox Optimised 181.20: Quality]
    Video Driver version: 181.20
    Audio Adapter: Speakers / HP (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5550 @ 1.83GHz

    File ID: Benchmark.cli
     
  46. Lum-X

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    Ok so here they are. Some benchmakrs with the new patch.

    I don't have the old benchmarks to compare then but the game seems to run smoother but it is still very very slow and tons of bugs and again THE SHINY AND PRRITY SHADOW that i hate the whole game just for it.

    Still lots of patches to come out and we will see what will happen in future with new drivers and new patches.
     
  47. Lum-X

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    i will install later DOX 181.22 and i will do a benchmark ti see how it will perform
     
  48. Lum-X

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    Statistics
    Average FPS: 21.89
    Duration: 36.96 sec
    CPU Usage: 95%
    System memory usage: 63%
    Video memory usage: 82%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1280 x 720 (60 Hz)
    Texture Quality: Medium
    Render Quality: High
    Reflection Resolution: High
    Water Quality: High
    Shadow Quality: Medium
    View Distance: 20
    Detail Distance: 20
    Definition: Off
    VSync: On

    Hardware
    Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium
    Service Pack 1
    Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS [Dox Optimised 181.22: Quality]
    Video Driver version: 181.22
    Audio Adapter: Speakers / HP (IDT High Definition Audio CODEC)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5550 @ 1.83GHz

    File ID: Benchmark.cli
     
  49. Magnus72

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    Johnksss I run at 1440x900 max res on my desktop and have around 40-60 fps outside :)

    eleron I can´t say my GTA IV on my XPS is super smooth, it still stutters, but when it doesn´t stutter it is smooth. I run at around 30+ fps on my XPS M1730 at 1920x1200 so pretty good, but the stuttering ruins it.

    Will see if I can fix it, could be an SLI issue since GTA IV doesn´t support SLI. But I assume you run it with SLI on eleron?
     
  50. Johnksss

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    nice benchmark list lum-x
    thanks magnus72

    and when i ran in sli...major stutters and lag.
    so much for just trying to run their version of the settings...lol
     
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