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    GTA IV Performance

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by SVuser, Dec 1, 2008.

  1. Pranalien

    Pranalien Notebook Veteran

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    I have installed the 2nd patch twice now(driver 181.22 Dox).The bugs in detail are:
    --Even at day time, the sky is pitch black
    --No lightings or reflections
    --Transparent HUD and menus.

    However it boosted the fps by a huge amount. I will come back with some screenshots.
     
  2. Johnksss

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    a rough run through and i got like 40 fps on all very high and everything maxed out except for view distance which was set to like 25. so im gonna have to say...this second patch is a definite improvement.
     
  3. haniunited

    haniunited Notebook Consultant

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    Important:

    If you get 30-40 fps in the benchmark test and yet you feel the game has "stutter" not gpu lag but simply stuttering at random times, or in other words you get a perfect benchmark test and yet the game does not feel smooth, like I had.

    go back a couple pages and download the patch that "Magnus72" posted.

    my situation was like that:

    benchmark = 40 fps.
    game = ranging from 25 to 56 fps, does not really feel absolutely smooth, stuttering at some points, unplayable at others.

    situation now:
    benchmark = 33 fps.
    game = ranging from 27-35 fps, game feels smooth, no stuttering, slowing down, and most importantly, you can put shadows on low and still get a good pic, cuz he definitely did something wish shadows.
    now it's a hundred times more playable, and I managed to put max resolution too !

    extremely highly recommended, download now!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
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  4. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Thanks haniunited, glad it works for you. Yes the stuttering definitely is gone and makes the game much more smoother to play now.
     
  5. hankaaron57

    hankaaron57 Go BIG or go HOME

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    Magnus - this is the file I was talking about in the XPS thread LOL. You thought I said GTA forum when I actually said "GTA IV thread". :p So this is the same file posted here as the 1730 thread??
     
  6. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yeah, I thought you talked about GTA forums :) Yes it´s the same file, I could of course have linked it to our XPS forum but decided to make a new thread instead here :)
     
  7. HaloGod2007

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    so should i use the patch mangus linked us for my laptop once i get 1.1 and 1.2 installed?
     
  8. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    HaloGod yes you can give the tweaks a try. You have to install 1.2 first since this allows modding without any external tools. Also remember the motion blur effect only works if you have Definition off in the Video Options menu or if you just press P in game to turn it on and off.
     
  9. HaloGod2007

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    as far as patches...do i need to install 1.1 and 1.2? or does 1.2 have 1.1 included?
     
  10. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    no need for 1.1, just install 1.2 that will do it. All fixes from 1.1 are included anyway.
     
  11. haniunited

    haniunited Notebook Consultant

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    you should really try, this thing works.

    yes i used to get 50 fps in some areas / streets but at some it was 25 fps and sometimes 35 but still stutters.

    now mostly 33-34 fps but no stuttering, smooth as a womans leg :)
     
  12. HaloGod2007

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    i got gta 4 from direct2drive...all i see is patch 1 from december on their site.....what do i do now?
     
  13. hankaaron57

    hankaaron57 Go BIG or go HOME

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    Activate it on Steam and it should take care of it.
     
  14. HaloGod2007

    HaloGod2007 Notebook Virtuoso

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    ok this game runs HORRIBLE on my laptop...even when patched through windows live....i have it at
    1440x900
    texture at medium
    shadows high
    reflection high
    water high
    render highest
    view distance 40
    detail distance 40
    car density 35
    shadow density 6

    definition on


    very very choppy and lowe frames....im dissapointed..plz help lol
     
  15. Magnus72

    Magnus72 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Well lower View distance and detail distance. Shadow Density also takes a toll though only at night.
     
  16. haniunited

    haniunited Notebook Consultant

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    @ HaloGod2007

    post your benchmark so we can help.
     
  17. Persio

    Persio Notebook Consultant

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    I updated to 1.0.2.0 and also from Vista 64 to Windows 7 64 (with lastest DOX optimised drivers) and performance has really improved.
     
  18. arjunned

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    did u install using compatability mode? cant seen to get it to install in W7. :(
     
  19. gary_hendricks

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    ^^this and also, try reducing water details.
     
  20. Persio

    Persio Notebook Consultant

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    Mhh.. dunno. I installed in Vista and upgraded the OS.
     
  21. eleron911

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    Install the second patch, it drastically improves performance...
     
  22. HaloGod2007

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    yeah i installed patch 1.2...i will post my benchmark up tonight...what really bothers me is how the game doesnt even look good graphically...yet it kills the gpu/cpu....hopefully when i get my qx9300 for my laptop and OC it to 3.4 ill be good to go
     
  23. Magnus72

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    Actually it kills the CPU more than the GPU. This game has some of the most advanced AI´s out there. So no wonder the game requires a quad core and a fast one too.
     
  24. wewe

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    gta 4 , all on low , 800x600
    shadows 0
    fps : 15-30
    that's a joke !!!!!!

    i have a dv5-1135 geforce 9600m gt , OS : win XP SP3)
     
  25. SemiGamer

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    That with that 2nd patch, Wewe?
     
  26. wewe

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    where are u getting patches from ???+
    no these are without any patches
    btw i have dox 182.05 (wich most of the ppl praise dox for)
     
  27. SemiGamer

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    thx bro , i will try it and let you know
     
  29. wewe

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    all on medium , no shadows
    1024x768
    fps: 17- 25
    temps , reached 77 untill i stopped
    before the patch they reached 84 on very low settings
    very nice improvement :D
    thank you semigamer :D
    if there's anything else i can do to improve it please let me know
    the game is now much much more playable but i still hate it , a game isn't playable unless u are getting 30 fps as average
     
  30. Freakish123

    Freakish123 Notebook Consultant

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    You can turn the Clip Recorder to OFF in the options, this usually gives an extra few frames too.
     
  31. SemiGamer

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    No problem.
    The game is very poorly optimized to be honest.
    Run the GTAIV Benchmark test (Its found in the graphics settings on the pause menu of the game) and post your results it gives you.
    Heres mine:

    Statistics
    Average FPS: 30.72
    Duration: 37.14 sec
    CPU Usage: 96%
    System memory usage: 78%
    Video memory usage: 90%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1152 x 864 (59 Hz)
    Texture Quality: High
    Render Quality: High
    Reflection Resolution: High
    Water Quality: High
    Shadow Quality: High
    View Distance: 47
    Detail Distance: 50
    Definition: Off
    VSync: On

    Hardware
    Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium
    Service Pack 1
    Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GTS [Dox Optimised 181.20]
    Video Driver version: 181.20
    Audio Adapter: Speakers (Conexant High Definition SmartAudio 221)
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8400 @ 2.26GHz

    Thats with overclocking the GPU.
     
  32. RayanMX

    RayanMX Notebook Evangelist

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    How good or bad do you think GTAIV will run on my MSI GT627 Gaming Laptop with 9800m GS? (see my sig.)

    I don't want to waste my money on a game that will not run good enough.

    Thanks!
    RayanMX
     
  33. SemiGamer

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    Pretty much the same as mine (Benchmark in the post above yours)
    Reason why:
    My gpu is only SLIGHTLY better than yours, but your CPU is slightly better than mine. So our systems even out because GTAIV is also CPU dependent unlike most games.
     
  34. Magnus72

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    Have any of you latest posted here tried my GTA IV tweaks?
     
  35. Snake520

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    After you dl it, what do you do with it?
     
  36. emike09

    emike09 Overclocking Champion

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    Ok, I cannot for the life of me find out what 'Definition' setting does. Any ideas or detailed info?
     
  37. Tenspeed33

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    I can't either, I don't think it makes that much difference to performance. At a guess, is it not how defined the textures in the game are?
     
  38. Magnus72

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    Defintion puts a blur filter on the game when it´s on.
     
  39. wewe

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    magnus what are your gta 4 tweaks ?
     
  40. Magnus72

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  41. RayanMX

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    Hi guys, here's my results with my MSi GT627

    Statistics
    Average FPS: 33.12
    Duration: 36.98 sec
    CPU Usage: 91%
    System memory usage: 84%
    Video memory usage: 87%

    Graphics Settings
    Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz)
    Texture Quality: High
    Render Quality: Highest
    View Distance: 32
    Detail Distance: 58

    Not bad huh?

    I'll try with Magnus hacks and post results...

    Thanks!
    RayanMX
     
  42. Tenspeed33

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    Nice! That extra 512Mb on the GS must make quite a difference... I get 10fPS lower on sameish settings with a slightly better CPU (t9400)
     
  43. RayanMX

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    I read somewhere on the forums that having more VRam didn't actually help much, but now I wonder if the 1Gb DDR3 VRam on the card more than compensate the higher resolution thus preventing drastic frame rate drop?

    I remember that on my old Asus G1S which had only 256 Mb DDR3 VRam, if I decided to go to 1680x1050, many games dropped frame rates drastically.

    Cheers!
    Rayanmx
     
  44. RayanMX

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    Oh, and forgot to say that I'm running Overclocked (Turbo Mode) to 20% which equals about 2.7 Ghz on my system.
     
  45. Tenspeed33

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    your right, VRAM does help res. I think! In GTA i only have about 488mB out of 512 so thata no really helping either... Wheres my other 24MB?!
    I run turbo extreme at 2.8GHz i think, so thats a decent help.
     
  46. emike09

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    VRAM makes a huge difference in performance when running at very high resolutions. 1680x1050 and above is good to have 512MB minimum. 1920x1200 and you want the 1GB cards.

    Biggest difference more vram makes is higher res textures and a further draw distance.
     
  47. s.almajid

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    Hi,

    Can the Asus g50vt-x1 run GTA IV same as the PS3?

    And what are the equivalent settings of this game on the PC to get it same as the PS3?

    This is the spec of the G50vt-x1

    CPU : Intel® Centrino® 2 processor technology with interrelated Intel® Core™2 Duo processor P8400 (2.26GHz, 1066MHz, 3mb L2 Cache)
    Ram: 4GB PC2-5300 DDR2 SDRAM
    GPU : NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GS with 512 mb memory

    The screen is WXGA 1366X768 (16:9).

    So I will be probably playing at this resolution.

    I can overclock the processor to 2.49GHz with the built in software.

    Your thoughts :)......
     
  48. SemiGamer

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    Yeah, it will.

    I've got a P8400 with 9800M GTS in my system and whenever I play with friends they're like "Oh my god, this looks so much better than on my playstation/xbox, I thought people said it was a bad port!?"

    Though it is a bad port, it'll run better on your pc than on the consoles.
     
  49. s.almajid

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    wow

    Thanks man you made my day

    I am gonna get this game.

    How much FPS you are getting?

    I heard that the PS3 equivalent settings is the medium. Is this correct?
     
  50. Hualsay

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    GTA IV ftw! Well.. When ya have the right drivers :D .
     
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