GTA V discussion

LOL is that dude in his underwear and socks and shoes?

 

Here's 970m 3GB benchmark 350.12 drivers, very high settings with no AA.

Benchmark during the last flying/driving portion:


Frame times as well:


Here's the video:


SETTINGS

 

Is there an NBR crew? Maybe someone should start one?

 

It is true. The main characters in SD had MUCH better models. GTA 5 is... just okay. I mean it looks good and all in general, and most everyone is rendered the same, unlike with SD, but still.

Also, LOL, that's a nice shot. I know that's from GTA, but that has to be a once-in-a-lifetime-shot someone got. The game doesn't nearly look that good normally.

Yup! ON A BOAT.

After checking around some, I've determined that sometimes GTA can indeed give equal or worse performance using SLI compared to single GPU setups. Util almost never passes 85%, and it hovers in the 70s on both cards most of the time. Barely an improvement, all things considered. It also uses a LOT of CPU in SLI; I haven't forced it to single GPU to see if it still holds true there. I've even closed chrome and all the other CPU-eating stuff and it still uses a lot. Hell, look at this cherry-picked-timing-but-still-relevant screenshot (FPS was about 45 there; not even max graphics):

Spoiler

I think single GPU is the way to go for this game... at least for now. It has some serious performance issues for SLI, and since my SLI setup is now decidedly midranged, I notice it a lot. The same thing happens sometimes with Dying Light. I get a ton of CPU usage and often lowish SLI scaling with low FPS to match. BF4 is a nutcase and sometimes works swimmingly and sometimes constantly chews through my PC as of late. The thing is though, Evolve and Crysis 3 and Black Ops 2 and Trine 2 and Tomb Raider and even Mass Effect 3 (if I throw enough nVidia Inspector AA/tweaks at it to remove the single-thread CPU bottleneck) don't exhibit this behaviour, so I know it's not something wrong with my cards or OS. (also, enjoy Windows 8 thinking I'm at 100% CPU when I have another ~20-25% to go).

 

Total Biscuit also had drops in performance with SLI that did not happen with a single GPU but it was due to the increased CPU demand when SLI was active.

 

Possibly so, but that kind of overhead shouldn't be there. It's too large.

Also, he has spare CPU power in his video when the drops do happen. Something is indeed screwed with that game and SLI, just like it was with Dying Light, though Dying Light adjusts to the higher end hardware better.
If a 4.3GHz 6-core, 12-thread CPU can't handle a game at 1080p with two higher end video cards, there is unoptimization present. The game does not look THAT amazing, and it does not have a ridiculous level of detail that would warrant this.

Also, ironically, this explains the "higher than 1080p resolution means my game runs better" scenario people have been getting. Higher resolution goes, the more it focuses on the GPU, and the less the CPU works by default. But if it forces the GPU to work harder, even if it reduces CPU usage (as the GPUs don't need to "wait" as much), it shouldn't result in a benefit to consistency of framerates or any other benefit at all. The game, by all means, should run worse. But I've heard MULTIPLE people run the game at 4K and say "min FPS is about 55" on a single 980, but people with two 980s and better CPUs dip into the 40's sometimes at 1080p? Especially in the daytime driving around?

I no get.

Basically, this game is focused on single-GPU and scaling on weaker hardware. And I wholeheartedly give it props for that. But I'm at a loss as to how low end hardware is fine, but high end hardware performs sub-optimally. It makes no logical sense to me, which means something is fishy in the code.

 

How can multimillion game have such a bad design on it's multiplayer MENU... Because it has not menu where you can select the game mode. Loading a menu would take 5 seconds, loading free mode takes 100 times longer.

 

On my desktop 5820k @ 4.5 with a single 980
I get really good frame rates on all max settings in the Graphics Options, only 2x MSAA, Advanced Graphics default. Frame rates can vary anywhere from 60-100 but are usually extremely consistently around 80 (stock GPU). I don't get those drops that seems to be affecting SLI machines like Total Biscuit's. But I imagine it to be the same as @D2 Ultima mentioned in Dying Light which I experienced with my 980m SLI. Which were blistering high frame rates in the 100's then large drops for no good reason.

 

Yeah @TBoneSan every single instance, without fail, of a user reporting that the game runs swimmingly for them is NOT using a SLI setup. It's all single GPU, or possibly AMD crossfire? I haven't seen many AMD crossfire users say anything, but I'd love if AMD didn't rush their driver and the game works for them =D.

 

You peanut butter and jelly?

 

Of course I am! I want to have such fantasies too you know!

 

http://www.techspot.com/review/991-gta-5-pc-benchmarks/

Props to Rockstar. Crazy how this game both looks and runs better than GTA IV.

 

Hope someone will release a mod like Realistic Driving & Flying for IV ASAP... The game is cool, but cars are too easy to handle and almost impossible to loose control of; collision damage is extremely low; there is no sense of speed at all. ='(

 

I love the driving in this game, so fun to aim the car with precision and challenge yourself to go as fast as possible without taking damage.

 

so does the patch fix the launcher issue?

 

I preferred GTA4 driving too. Especially the bikes how you could shift weight on the front to get sideways. The driving is still pretty good in GTA5 although far easier.

 

Pretty!

 

Seems the performance in the patch has increased on the titan x

 

Yuck that is a disgusting looking texture in the foreground

 

that's on the high setting

 

Everything else is fine, it's just that one rock right in your face. Almost looks like a streaming issue.

 

it's first person view with a crappy FOV

 

Agree, the driving is way too unrealistic. It seems 'dumbed down', and a step backwards from IV.

 

Apparently many people called the IV driving physics too hard or something.

 

Im quite happy with the performance only the grass is so demanding.I dont know if this is a bug or what.btw anyone else using more vram than available?im using 2380mb on my 2gb card and no problems.i found out that post fx is very demanding.What the difference between post fx ultra and very high?what is disabled on very high?it improves framerate at least 10%

 

Mr Koala, they weren't satisfactory either, if you ask me. But that mod I mentioned earlier, in its higher damage version, provided extremely pleasant and realistic (in cinematic way) driving experience.

 

It was far from perfect, but I'd say its still more realistic than the driving physics in V, which is why I said its a step backwards.

Perhaps the people who whined about IV's driving physics were either: too used to San Andreas driving physics, or have never driven a car in real life

 

There is a fov mod for GTA V but people have been asking Rockstar if they will get banned online for using it.

 

I'd like to see an option to set the camera for 1st or 3rd person based on driving/shooting/plane etc. rather than a global setting.

 

There is already an option ''Allow independent camera modes'' under display unless you meant something else.

 

The game looks amazing so far. I get constant 60 FPS with GTX 870M on high to very high settings combined. FXAA and Reflection MSAA x2 is on but MSAA is the most demanding setting I believe, FPS drops by 10 to 20 when I enabled it so I leave it disabled.

Indeed. It is unbelievable. The game's optimization is probably even better than Max Payne 3.

 

So I seem to have an issue with GTA 5 itself. I run a dGpu 745m using the optimus method. Now in OTHER games like ultra street fighter 4, if I use a lower resolution, it gets scaled up full screen. However GTA 5 does not do that, it will letter box lower resolutions and not scale them up. GTA 5 is the only game I have that does this.

 

Plenty of people are driving cars IRL, but not many have tried to push them like they do mindlessly in games.

 

I just disabled Hyper threading in my Bios and I think I get better performance in this and GTA IV. I could just be imagining it though so it would be good if anyone else noticed a difference.

 

Does anyone know how to workaround the launcher not launching until I disable my dedicated GPU in device manager? I hate doing that before each time I start up the game.

 

Umm, I would disagree. Plenty of 12-16 year olds who have never driven, as they aren't old enough to own a license.

Anyway, this is off topic.

 

Ended up deleting the game until a mod with proper physics comes out. Can't stand dull driving in games anymore. =/

 

Hmm gta 5 isn't a race car game. From what I have seen though each handles quite differently! It is a matter of trying out different ones to see what you like!

Besides there is more to the game than only driving...

Agreed on the optimisation! My 680m at 940/1100mhz at less than 1v runs the game at 1080p with all settings to max except shadows (high) and no AA very smoothly and stably!

If I had more than 2gb the 680m probably has enough horsepower to run shadows on very high and some minimal AA!

Basically you want at least 3gb VRAM with this game. 2gb doesn't cut it anymore...my above settings already run me to 2400mb VRAM usage. With very high shadows it hits nearly 2900mb and the game goes from smooth to laggy on a 2gb card.

 

I just locked FPS to 30 (by setting VSYNC to HALF in the game settings) to experience consoles gaming and I must say I really feel sorry for them, the game is unbearable to me once you see 60 FPS' smoothness. I am not like "PC Master huehue" as they are bunch of **** who arrogantly dislike laptops even we are PC users too but console users should play this game once more on PC with 60 FPS.

 

Lol.. I spat the dummy about this 2 years ago when I played it on 360. You just reminded me of how I felt.

Other things.. I'm seeing a lot of complaints about SLI issues. Dammit.

 

+1 to this. It's extremely easy to jack settings up and exceed the 2047 MB limit and hit 2600 MB, but quite hard to bring it down to around 2000 without losing graphical fidelity.

I'm having some trouble adjusting the game to get about 45 FPS. My game is currently chugging along, albeit slowly at 25-30 FPS. I agree with you - 2 GB just doesn't cut it, and the 860M is an extremely capable card, and an excellent overclocker too. If I just had 3-4 GB VRAM, I feel sure that I could get decent frame rates.

I might trade in my W230SS for a next-gen P650 with an Nvidia Pascal GPU once it is released.

 

Well, if you got any GTA game for enjoying driving physics, you're doing it very wrong.

With that said, good car physics in an open city environment simply doesn't exist, so we do have to lower our standards.

 

Driving in GTA IV and Mafia II was very enjoyable.

 

Finally finished Tevor's first story leg. Truthfully, got kinda bored, run here kill everyone, run there kill everyone. Back in SA, can switch characters now. CPU Temps were getting high 79c80c. Removed IC Diamond and repasted with Liquid Ultra temps now steady at 49c-55c, after 4hrs playing.

 

More enjoyable than GTA5, sure. Good/realistic physics, not even close.

Why so much temp difference? Was the last ICD paste job broken?

 

this game has soooo much profanity in it. I swear a lot ( when appropriate ), but this game overdoes it, lol. Wish they had an option to turn this off, with kids around you def need headphones

 

I never said about it being realistic, just that physics they used to model driving in GTA IV was very enjoyable. I had hard time with driving in other games after GTA IV. I liked it that much (and Mafia II).

 

You should look for the questio mark contacts, those are probably different.

 

With proper handling and damage mod GTA IV provided enjoyable driving experience, you could (and would) loose control over your car when doing really crazy stuff, and driving without crashes preserved some challenge; crashes looked really great and quite realistic. Certainly I didn't expect R* to make GTA V driving or crashes realistic, however, since the game is around for quite a while on consoles, I expected a mod for PC version to be available upon release or very soon after, which is not the case as we can all see. It will be released sooner or later, though, and then those demanding more realism will finally be able to play GTA V without spitting and cursing. And come on, to hell with driving - don't movie-like crashes look much better in games than barely damaged **** we see on our monitors? =\

 

49c-55c on load with i7 4940MX?? I think it was a typo