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    GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cakefish, Oct 7, 2014.

  1. Hellmanjk

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    Idk where you see that because I cannot find any 980ms on ebay. And if someone is selling it for over $1K on ebay it is either because of current demand and low surplus or because the seller is on drugs.
     
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    I think you meant 7690M XT.

    I HAD an HP with the regular 7690M and it had driver issues as well lol.

    I really wish some of those older AMD cards didn't rely on hybrid/enduro switching. They can be really good low end gaming laptops to play LOL and other less demanding RPG's.
     
  3. Ethrem

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    880M went for over 900, it wouldn't surprise me to see 980M over 1k.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
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    mobile cards usually replace at-price, so if 880M was $900 then 980Ms should be $900... unless again there is little supply and no demand and people take advantage
     
  5. Ethrem

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    Its obvious nVidia is charging more for the new cards and I doubt the eBay sellers are going to take a cut in profit to offer the cards at the same price. Mobile is paying for the subsidy of the desktop cards :p

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
  6. TBoneSan

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    There's no reason it should be more expensive when buying it with a system than previous cards. Places like Ungradeyourmonkey will no doubt try and ask $900+ for as long as they can get away with people buying them at that price.
     
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  7. Ethrem

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    Prices have gone up though.

    The closest I can get to the same build I have now (differences - M550s instead of M500s which look to be the same price and the 72% gamut LCD is not 120hz) with 980M as opposed to 880M is 109 dollars more than my machine despite the processor dropping in price by 70 bucks.
     
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    Did you buy your system right at launch though?
     
  9. octiceps

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    And Quadro is subsidizing GeForce. :D
     
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  10. Ethrem

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    Yes I did. I ordered it May 7th. Right when they dropped the 780M from all the machines except the 9570. I believe I was the first on the forum with 880Ms besides Johnksss and svl7

    Touche.
     
  11. TBoneSan

    TBoneSan Laptop Fiend

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    Bummer....
     
  12. ole!!!

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    i dont even try to argue with people anymore lol. 980m will likely sell for 1k or close to it and its probably not worth it until 20nm comes out which we'll see another 15-20% increase.
     
  13. octiceps

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    If they just release the full GM204 while keeping clocks high and bin the GPU's for low voltage, it's an instant 30% performance improvement for little increase in TDP. But no, Nvidia is content to milk this for all it's worth.
     
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    Wouldn't you? They are in the completely dominant position in the market right now.

    I did take notice that the 980M appears to be a .9v part though unless HWiNFO64 is reporting it wrong, definitely lots of room there.
     
  15. Ningyo

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    What on earth are you all talking about, the 980m is priced at between $630-680 by nearly every OEM I look at, or are you getting a $1000 figure by looking at random people trying to sell unknown objects on E-bay for extortionate prices?

    And everyone talking about them not releasing a full g204 chip on day one is being silly. Probably only a small % of the chips have all 16 SMM fully functional, and only a small % of those are bin-able for lower voltage mobile chips, the rest end up in the 980 desktop. Likely they are slowly building up a stock of 15 and or 16 SMM mobile quality chips to release a more powerful high end version in the future. Its not like they can just decide exactly how every die will turn out, its a percentages game.

    My guess is they will release a 15 or 16 SMM mobile chip opposite a desktop g200 ?Titan2? launch or something in 3-9 months.
     
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  16. octiceps

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    Dude it's 28nm. Yield issues is a complete BS excuse.
     
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    Is the LCD an IPS or equivalent (PLS /AHVA...)
     
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    Can someone pls enlighten me (I'm new in this forum), what exactly performance increase can we expect for 900m series from going to 20nm process with, say, other things being identical?

    There are rumors AMD is going to be the first to implement 20nm process early next year, but it's only for desktop cards, so I was wondering how long will it take to make it happen for mobile ones (and what gains can we expect).
     
  19. ole!!!

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    if you have a way to get at OEM pricing other than mass purchase, then yes its less than 1k, otherwise what you just said is tl;dr and falls on deaf ear lol.

    partsmonkey / computer parts/ monkey or w/e that ebay seller's name is probably mass order at 300-400 a piece, then sell it for 900-1k which most of us buy from ebay anyway for GPU only upgrades.

    definitely not worth purchasing over 780m for just 10 to 15% increase cause I can just OC 780m. battery life and heat is secondary to performance lol and 1k isn't worth it. on the other hand when 20nm drops from either nvidia/AMD increase will be huge, arch will be more matured, which i don't see a problem dropping 2k for 2 cards at that point.
     
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    MSI said they will sell gpu upgrade kits, does someone knows where to buy them?
     
  21. Ethrem

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    Hmm? One 980M is what, 10% slower than 780M SLI? How are you going to overclock enough to hit that?
     
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    And last time I looked np9377 880m sli base specs with cash discount was like $2490-2530 and now with 980m sli its $2580. And technically you are getting two 780ms for one 980m and almost two 880ms with oc.

    On ebay 880m was going for $700-800 in august. Now its at $500 so I do not think we will have to wait till 20nm to see price drop unless of course the next mobile gpu is 20nm which is not that far off.

    And the people who want full chip seem to just want it for the sake of itself because the very few benchmarks look crazy. And although nvidias claim that it is 75% as powerful as desktop 980 is not close in physical specs it might be close in actual performance.

    Prices are not that high. Clevo is offering one 970m for $1350 and one 980m for $1680. We are getting way more performance for about the same price people who paid for two 780ms and almost two 880ms.
     
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    Any suggestion where to buy MXM cards beside upgrademonkey?

    I want to replace my 770M GTX with the 970M GTX. :thumbsup:
     
  24. Ethrem

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    When you put it like that, it makes the price increase not really all that big of a deal.

    I have an SLI machine though so I can't stomach having one card in it. :mad:

    So far nobody has them period. You can bet that Eurocom (upgradeyourlaptop) will have them as well though.
     
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    Excellent thanks! Just wanted to know where to buy them, eventually.... :)

    Sorry, is this website valid if I live in UK?
     
  26. ole!!!

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    still havent oc 980m enough to find out how much it can achieve. with it's clock speed that high maybe not a lot of headroom left especially with memory stuck at 5ghz.

    780m OC'ed can do pretty good, it wouldn't be 10%, more like 25%.
     
  27. Ethrem

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    upgradeyourlaptop on eBay ships worldwide. They're expensive though but they give you everything you need - thermal paste, pads, screws, x-bracket, and even heatsink.
     
  28. ExMM

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    I have notice it, pretty expensive.. but It's worth to upgrade my Clevo with such a card. :D

    Thanks a lot!
     
  29. Hellmanjk

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    And last thing to the people complaining about it not being a full chip. I bet you were the same people screaming your lungs out about the 880m being a rebrand. And now we get a new card thats estimated to be upwards of +%60 performance increase and it sucks bc its not 20nm or full chip. I bet if we got a 100% increase over 880m people would still complain about the physical build.
     
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    Humans will never be satisfied with anything... Sadly its part of our nature..
     
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    so all im getting told at the moment is that scan uk still have no ETA on when ther clevo 370sm-a will be avaliable with 980m sli... i want my laptop!!! 4 months without it and counting now :/
     
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    Its probably going to be November... mySN has an ETA for then...
     
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    Hey Guys I want to order a Clevo 377 with 980msli from XOTIC and send it to paris any of you guys know if the import taxes are high?
     
  34. Hellmanjk

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    Advancement and wanting to achieve more is a good thing. It just sounds like people want the full chip because it is the full chip. If they have an 880m or 780m then okay it might be best to wait a little longer. Its not a travesty. Weren't like two 880ms as powerful as one gtx 780? Not crazy to think a 980m is 75% as powerful as 980. 780ti basically has same performance but higher tdp. And 780 is a step lower. So i imagine two 980ms might be close to a 780ti or 980 regardless of physical specs but from benchmarked performance. I think the 900ms are a huge achievement.
     
  35. Ethrem

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    With the modded vbios my 880Ms running at full boost are neck in neck with my 780 Ti which is a superclocked model...

    Result

    Heat is just the problem with the 880M cards. But they are as fast and in some cases slightly faster than the 780 Ti when they work right.
     
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    So are you going to upgrade a year later when they do release a full chip ?

    The idea is that you will have the best for the longest period of time so you don't have to upgrade to keep the best. Also won't have to fork out another $750-900. When your buying a $2000 laptop it makes sense that you expect it to be the performance king for 2 years.

    Also the 980m can be rebranded to 1065M when they do decide to bring in a full gm204.

    Also if the 980m was a downclock 970 then I would befine with that too since the gtx 680M was like that but was still comparable to their desktop counterparts.

    A variation of ~10% isn't a big deal like the jump from gtx 780m to 880m.however since the performance increase from a full gm204 is going to be equal to or above 30%.

    It not like a full gm204 won't work in these laptops due to heat or power it just like he others have said, its just milking the profit.

    all in all this about this isnt an issue to someone who doesn't mind buying a new card every year, doesn't care for having the best, or needs a new laptop now.

    Well that is my personal opinion on that.
     
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    Pre-ordered mine :
    P34W v3/14" 1920x1080 Wide View Angle/ Intel Core i7-4710HQ 2.5-3.5GHz/GTX 970M GDDR5 6GB/
    DDR3L 8GBx1/ 128GB SSD + HDD 1TB 5400rpm/Win8.1/2Y Warranty/ 4 cell (61Whr)

    Will re-use my existing RAM, and already purchased a 1TB Msata SSD(Samsung Evo) for this.
     
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    Just checked mysn.co.uk and you´re right, they´re both marked ETA early November.
    870M => 970M: +£97
    880M => 980M: +£114

    P724 with 4710MQ, 970M SLI 6 GB, 16 GB Ram, 250 GB Samsung EVO, 1 TB 7200 rpm: £1 864 (~€ 2 370)
    P724 with 4710MQ, 980M SLI 8 GB, 16 GB Ram, 250 GB Samsung EVO, 1 TB 7200 rpm: £2 330 (~€ 2 960)

    Haha, delivering little bundles of love, in a box...directly to your door. petsovernight.com :)
     
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    Calcul des droits et taxes sur les achats à l'étranger

    You have to add 20% of vat and 120€ for the shipment ... my advice is to wait the offer of Mysn or Pcsystemevolution ...

    Tu devras rajouter les 20% de TVA aux prix de la machine, et l'expédition depuis les USA coûte dans les 120€.
     
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    Hey guys, I'm seeing some huge difference in prices between Asus and MSi in the catalogues of French online resellers, and I was wondering if there was anything substantial behind that difference or if it's just MSi charging more for basically the same thing.

    Here is the MSi GT72 2QE-259FR Dominator Pro - Intel Core i7-4710HQ - HDD 1 Tb + SSD 128 Gb - 16 Gb RAM - GTX 980M with 8 Gb GDDR5:
    Msi - GT72 2QE-259FR Dominator Pro - 17,3''Full HD - Intel Core i7-4710HQ - HDD 1 To + SSD 128 Go - RAM 16 Go - GTX 980M - Win 8.1 - GT72-2QE-259FR - Achat/Vente Ordinateur Portable Grand Public | Rue du commerce

    Here is the Asus ROG G751JY-T7004H - Intel Core i7-4710HQ - HDD 1 Tb + SSD 256 Gb - RAM 16 Go - GTX 980M with 4 Gb GDDR5:
    Asus - ROG G751JY-T7004H - 17,3''Full HD - Intel Core i7-4710HQ - HDD 1 To + SSD 256 Go - RAM 16 Go - GTX 980M - Win 8.1 - G751JY-T7004H - Achat/Vente Ordinateur Portable Grand Public | Rue du commerce

    The two main differences I'm seeing is that the G751 has 256 Gb of SSD and a 980M with 4 Gb of VRAM, while the GT72 has 128 Gb of SSD and a 980M with 8 Gb of VRAM. Yet, the G751 is selling for 1799€ while the GT72 is selling for 400€ more, that is to say 2199€.

    Am I missing something here, or can the GT72 be considered overpriced compared to the G751?
     
  42. Cakefish

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    I'll do my best to add all the various reseller brands to front page asap, but it's a bit more complex to keep things organised seeing how every country has a different set of resellers. That's why I've kept the (admittedly short) list to the global-only brands for now. Will get to it soon but for today I have coursework to be getting on with!
     
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    That would be the G751 for me then!
     
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    Mysn.co.uk

    " Thank you very much for your email. GTX 970M and GTX 980M will be available around November."
     
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    Had a conversation with an alienware member.

    Told him I've been waiting for the alienware 14 quite long now, and that nvidia released the 970M and 980M.
    So I asked if the alienware 14 will soon be packed with either a 970M or a 980M. Or do I have to wait longer for a lower tier GPU to release that will be put in the alienware 14.

    He told me he cannot give a specific time of date when the updates on the alienware laptops will take place. but it will happen.

    So I asked to confirm if the alienware 14 will soon have 970M or the 980M.
    and he answered yes it will, and gave me email contact to contact him so he can help me place a purchase when it releases to give me an additional 5% discount.
     
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    Cheapest Asus G751JY with 980M 4GB in my country is - NOTEBOOK ASUS G751JY-T7056H - this one. Although it has just 8gb of ram and just 8gb ssd, it is nice to see that they were able to cut price under 1400€ and im seriously thinking of getting this one since my limit is like 1450-1500€ . Will wait few days for more resellers to come with their prices and then will see.
     
  48. feelgeorge13

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    I would love to upgrade my GT70 2OC-065US 770M to a 970M or 980M. As the 770M to 870M or 980M is a huge performance boost.  Well they are releasing a MSI GT70 Dominator-2293 which has the 970M, machine, This MSI laptop is Identical to my laptop with Just an updated GPU 970M. link below Now I am really hoping I can get my hands on the upgrade kit to do so.

    MSI GT70 Dominator-2293 17 inch Gaming laptop with nVidia GTX970M - GenTech PC

    XOTIC PC | MSI GT70 Dominator-2293 - 17.3" Gaming Notebook - GTX 970M

    https://www.powernotebooks.com/configure.php?special=1811


     
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  49. Templesa

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    I really wish I was one of the owners of those notebooks and could do the card upgrade. I want this to be a success for MSI so the trend of easy swap MXM continues. That would be awesome. Maybe even build some new models, and get Asus into it. Or have different versions built and produced (Think EVGA version of 980m GTX with a factory warranty OC)
     
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    thank you for the response Tonrac how about if I order from germany or uk does the 20% still apply?
     
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