GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

I want the GT72 but with a stock hdd so it'll cut down on price and only 8GB ram. I have ram/ssd ready for it already. NewEgg has one for $1,899, if it were $1,699 i'd be all over it.

 

All we know is the GX500JMC with 980M was spotted in some benchmark results ( NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4710HQ,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. GX500JMC).

Nobody here knows if the prototype will ever make it to production.

I certainly hope so but I think 970M is more probable.

If they do wait for Broadwell early next year maybe a 980M will work well in this chassis.

 

I'm really tempted to wait also but its going to be so hard to. I guess I can allocate the $$$ I was going to spend on a laptop towards upgrading my desktop GFX and SSD for the time being then start to save again.

 

Ill just leave this here... Notebooks & Ultrabooks - Gaming - ASUS <<< According to this, the JY and JT variants are the same 20-53 mm (2") thickness with 5.3 kg (10.5 lbs) weight. (Kinda odd due to the lower Maxwell TDP tho.)

The JM is actually 20-43 mm (1.65") thick with 4.3 kg (9.5 lbs) weight, but also gets a touch-screen option? (I want the JY with touch-screen!)

So, V

G750JY = 0.8-2.0", 10.5 pounds, mSATA SSD, i7 4710HQ-i7 4860HQ, GTX 980M, 230w adapter, copper heat-sinks, red quad vents.

G750JT = 0.8-2.0", 10.5 pounds, mSATA SSD, i7 4710HQ, GTX970M, 230w adapter, copper heat-sinks, red quad vents.

G750JM = 0.8-1.65", 9.5 pounds, no mSATA SSD, i5 4200H-i7 4710HQ, GTX860M-GTX960M, 180w adapter, touch-screen option, black dual vents.

All with a beefy not remove-able 6000mah battery!

 

Assuming that you gona use it for at least 3 years how about you add an extra 9.7$ /month and get the GS60 beauty?
Or even better, just add a 32cents / day during this 3 wonderfull years of gaming on slim and fast laptop and you will have enough for it

I guess any1 can anford extra 32cents a day?

On a side note - adding 350$ to 1500$ does not seems to be such a biggy when the peroid of usage will be taken into account. And if you gona bind yourself to the certain model for couple of years then its better to buy the best you can get, otherway you gona spend 1500$ (thats quite a lot ) for someting that you are not fully satisfied with, wutz the point?

 

In that case definitely don't get the 3K screen then, if you force yourself to game at 3K for all your games you'll probably see less performance than your current laptop - now that's not really an upgrade is it! Go the 1080 screen, and then at least you're seeing a 60-80% performance increase on your 780M. To answer your question, the CPU and RAM is not that important for gaming, not as much as the GPU, if you're gonna buy that model then get the 1080 version based on the fact that you will never game below native resolution.

 

Just went in for 23 and change for the xotic one on amazon

Amazon.com : MSI Computer GT72 DOMINATOR GT72 DOMINATOR PRO-211 17.3-Inch Laptop : Computers & Accessories
MSI Computer GT72 DOMINATOR GT72 DOMINATOR PRO-211 17.3-Inch Laptop

Since my work laptop broke today, i needed another one. Reminds me, i was in jersey last winter and the marriot had 6 alienware pc's, i was like wow... why? Now i know why, business expense write off

WIN

 

You speak words of wisdom. Definitely makes sense. The allure of 3K is so darn appealing though...

I guess I just have to think that even the 1080p version will be an upgrade over my 17.3" Clevo in terms of DPI - not huge, but still slightly higher due to the 15.6" size. And it'll still have the same DPI as all the 4K desktop monitors! Also, I do like matte screens and it's still an IPS panel.

I think I'm leaning the opposite way now, favouring the 1080p version. Your statement about not experiencing higher frame rates hit home - that is, after all, why I wanted to upgrade in the first place!

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

There probably won't be many games that optimize 3K for ages because 99% of people won't have BOTH a 3K display and a GPU that can process that res. And by the time 3K displays start working their way to a home near you, and game developers start offering it (done properly), we'll all be back on here talking about the (un)official 1280M GTX with 100% performance increase over the obsolete old 980M.

CPU not important for gaming? It is for my sort of gaming. Rome II and X-Plane 10 all see noticeable increases withing the same CPU family depending on your video settings and add-ons... That's why I'm honestly tempted to wait a month more to see if by some miracle Broadwell is not going to be to CPU was Maxwell is to GPU. Would be nice to max out those two games with sub 80 temps...

 

If reviews reveal the Gigabyte P35X v3 thermally throttles then it's the MSI GT72 for me. If not then it's the 1080p version of the P35X v3. There, it's settled. Finally, I have made my mind up! That is what is happening. Now I just need to see that all important review!

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

I'm wondering why more people aren't asking for 120 Hz screens. From what I've read, you can clearly see a very positive difference even on windows (and even more so in games, whether or not you're above 60 fps). It doesn't seem like such a costly upgrade compared to some of the other features people are willing to pay for... I mean IPS has the disadvantage of having a higher latency than TN screens, which may deter those who fear its impact on fast FPS play, but I don't see any disadvantage for 120 Hz screens...

 

None of them have been in production since about 2011. All the existing panels are pre-existing stock. No sense tracking down every last panel for a NICHE market in the already-fairly-small niche market of high end gaming laptops (not counting midrange gaming laptops here).

 

Broadwell will probably be worse than Haswell.
Broadwell is 14nm and smaller than 22nm Haswell. Size is the whole issue with CPUs running in the 90s while Maxwell running at 60-70C.

Smaller die, less contact surface to the heatsinks that have to remove the heat. Haswell CPUs probably got less than 100mm2 die area for the CPU cores. Maxwell have 300mm2 for parts that produce heat maybe. Thats the reason why 65W GTX 970M run cooler than 47W Haswell. Haswell got much more heat per mm2

 

Yes, just got a little run up by those 4.5w Core M's using the aluminium backcover of laptops as the heat distribution..

Was hoping that the delay from intel was because manufacturers wanting to make thin laptops needing less heat, and intel are working to make the cpu's do that..

 

I think I just found the reason to get the P35xV3 over the GX500 which may have the 980M and that is the VRAM. All asus laptops seem like they are having the 4GB version of the 980M. So if you want more VRAM that is your option.

BUT.

If 4GB is enough for games for a while. The better screen of the ASUS will be the best bet.

 

Well, if they haven't been in production I suppose it's because there was no demand for them, which is what I'm surprised about... Are they not clearly superior to 60 Hz screens?

 

I think the idea is to go with lesser Broadwells, at least for slim notebooks. Top Broadwells may be hotter than top Haswells (and be faster), but less powerful ones may still have similar performance as current i5 / i7 Haswells but with much smaller TDP.

If next Broadwells (U-series: 15-28 watt TDP, ultrabook category, expected Q1 2015) go in the same direction as those first Broadwells that are already out (Y-series: 3.5 - 4.5 watt TDP, tablet category), then it should be good, and we wouldn't even need to wait for another bigger ones (H-series: 37-47 watt TDP, full notebook category, expected Q2 2015).

Additionally this would make new notebook design refreshes come sooner, if some manufacturers dare to pair U-series CPU with higher-end GPUs.

 

OT warning! Astrongtower banned again, that's like twice in the last week alone that I've noticed - what's the little scamp been getting up to?! Was it due to excessive and relentless question asking!?

 

It's weird, the people who get banned here seem like they are not the type of people to get banned.

 

The mind boggles!

 

Regarding the issue of having to run a lower resolution on a 15.6" 3K or 4K panel whilst gaming, what should be noted is that the pixels are now so small (especially on the 4K at nearly 300 PPI) that you will hardly notice any scaling issues at average viewing distance. This is especially true for moving content such as video and games.

Complete resolution independence - being able to run any resolution as if it's native. I personally think 4K at 15.6" is a dream come true.

 

Hmm, that sounds like a theory, I wouldn't buy a 3K notebook to game at a lower resolution unless I had seen such a panel in action - everything I've heard from people and from my own experiences (albeit not 3K panels) suggests that anything below native resolution is noticeably poorer quality.

 

Review of Asus G750JY with IPS and GTX 980M.
Extremely tempting

Asus ROG G751JY-DH71 review | Digital Trends

 

Interesting observation from NotebookCheck XMG P505 Pro / Clevo P651SE review comments.

Apparently those super fast PCIE Samsung XP941 SSDs (used in that notebook) can get really hot - as bad as 114 C.



Samsung XP941 512GB M.2 PCIe SSD Review - Benchmarks - Nuts and Bolts

So that's yet another potentially significant source of heat in the chassis, in addition to hot Haswell CPUs and apparently higher DPI screens?

 

When I read "The G751JY is even more impressive at load. Fan noise increased to only 38.4dB, and exterior temperatures never exceeded 90 degrees. That’s incredible." I thought - SAY WHAAAT?! And then I remembered - Fahrenheit's a thing

 

Yeah those americans with their backward units. 32C max on the casing is very good. I was impressed about the 38dB on full load.
I also like that G751 got IPS and support for PCIe SSDs.

My cons however is not replacable GPU and its difficult to repaste it.
Hmmmm, not sure what to do.

 

I think if you're not gonna upgrade the GPU in a notebook anyway, then this is a really good one to get - I like the aesthetics, and I bet you can get a good overclock out of them given the good cooling system. And if the cooling system is that good at stock, then you may never need to re-paste the GPU anway. (It had a good display too, but in terms of colour accuracy with notebooks, I'm not sure it's worth buying a notebook on the back of that - you could invest a hundred odd quid for a calibration system like Spyder4Pro which you can use on all of your computers to get accurate calibrations & colour accuracy, but won't change the colour gamut though.)

 

Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor ULTRA settings with HD textures internal benchmark GTX 980M 4GB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dla7ZsuUm8 .. dunno why the quality is so bad, original video looks so much better ... anyway normal gameplay FPS without recording goes from 70 - 50 FPS mostly 60 range ... no stuttering at all, only few seconds at beggening of a new location

 

Yep grew up with metric pretty much my whole life, so I'm much more comfortable with it. Plus in science you use metric anyway, and all my coworkers are well-versed in metric, so might as well use it.

 

Good news, first confirmation of g-sync working with mobile Maxwells.

Unfortunately just on external monitors, and on MSI GT72 (which doesn't have Optimus, so Nvidia GPU drives the output) but at least that's something

PC Perspective Podcast 321 - 10/09/14 - YouTube

Officially Nvidia doesn't even list g-sync support on mobile Maxwells yet:

G-SYNC | Supported GPUs | GeForce

BTW that could be one of the reasons why it may be better to wait. Once there will be g-sync capable native embedded notebook displays, that should make a noticeable improvements in subjective experience quality (while using the same GPUs).

Though I have absolutely no idea when (or even if) that will happen.

 

With gsync on external displays all but confirmed, I'm excited.

 

The predecessor of my preciousssss P35X v3, the P35W v2 saw temperatures of 91C on the CPU and 93C on the GPU - at stock speeds, running only 3DMark11! Uh oh!

Spoiler

Do you think the 980M will help improve on these temperatures at all? I mean, those seem absurdly high for mere benchmarks (my positively volcanic Clevo manages much better temps), as we all know that temperatures are always considerably higher when actually playing demanding modern games than merely 3DMark. The 870M was around 100W and the 980M is supposedly around 85W - or is it? Throttling is inevitable at those kind of temperatures - that's my main concern

Because if not... well maybe I should give up, go cry in a cave, crawl back out into reality and opt for the MSI GT72 which I could have in my hands within a week...

 

I won't be gaming much on my 980 unless i am sitting at my desk. I know kind of defeat the whole purpose. However, the option i want to be there if i am on a long trip or something. How do fan coolers work for everyday use? My last laptop was the k53t and i ended up breaking it yesterday trying to replace the lcd... or it could of been me OC'n it earlier in the day. i dunno. It boots but no video or hdmi output. And won't turn off... unless battery is pulled heh, no hard drive light flicker ever either.

 

Have they been released in the UK?

 

I don't understand why won't the SLI machine will ever get screen beyond Full HD
well, I mean an SLI of gtx 980M should be fine handling 3K resolution with good frame rates
full HD 60Hz + SLI GTX 980M would be wasting the raw power, even for 880M SLI imho
it is very possible to get 17 inch screen with 3K or even 4K resolution, coz they could make with 15, why not 17
or, is there anyway for aftermarket upgrade for such?

 

A couple things to note after catching up on 13 more pages of reading, lol.

I, personally, would opt for the 1080p monitor. It's already been noted that that cpu gets crazy hot, so stick with the weaker and cooler one.

If you still go for 3k, don't worry. What you can do with more demanding games is run at a lower resolution, but in windowed mode. It will continue to look crystal clear.

What's the difference between the P650SE and the P150SM-A? Which one had the really bad cooling? The P650SE looks great imo, but Clevo uses some of the tiest speakers I've ever heard. And their audio ports are really bad sounding too.

 

You are looking at it a bit wrong mate. HWinfo display Max, Average and temperatures now. The GPU and CPU had an average of 75C ish during 3DMark11. The Max was 90C for CPU and GPU but the notebook cooled it down to around 70C.

Exactly like its suppose to. Its just about the fan tables and how quick and how high the temps need to be before the fan ramps up and cool the components down.
Prime95 had the CPU at 78C when the fans kicked in and have been running for a while.

Pretty decent results actually

Thanks. Yeah I rarely change the GPU and buy new notebooks all the time, but I prefer to have the option there. Plus I think having upgradeable GPUs make them a little easier to sell (I think).
I worship quiet running notebooks yet powerful and the G751 seems to fit the bill. Have you seen the new cooling system they use? The entire back is made out of copper, not just the heatsinks but the grills/exhausts as well

I'm not sure but I also think that Asus use custom MXM boards because they use beefier and sturdier power supply than what you find on MXM cards. Can't remember where I have seen it. So yeah, they are probably good at over clocking as well

 

Which is better???
8gb 880m or 3gb 970m????
6gb 970m or 4gb 980m????

 

A 4gb 980m would be best in 99% of games of games right now, that may change in the future thanks to increasing VRAM requirements. Even so I'd still pick a 4gb 980m over a 6gb 970m because of the raw performance

 

That's what I like to see!

 

I really like the way the g751 looks and I have had both the g73jh and the g74sx. I just can't stand single GPU notebooks anymore though they feel so underpowered

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GTX 970M beats GTX 880m by 10% all the way up to 50% depending on the game.
GTX 980M is maybe 25% on top of that again.
I'd pick GTX 980M 4GB. A few games perhaps where the VRAM might not be ideal but they are far in between.

Yeah looking to see what Alienware offer this time around before buying anything. Recent news say Alienware have done something new with the cooling system
Dell pushes Alienware 18's CPU to a face-meltingly fast 4.4GHz | PCWorld

 

Dell pushes Alienware 18's CPU to a face-meltingly fast 4.4GHz? LOL? Mr. Fox runs that like stock. He has what, 5GHz validations? 4.8GHz benchmarks?

 

One thing is a user taking that risk, another is a company guarantee that it will work just fine across all units shipped with 4940MX.

They got to make sure the cooling system are top notch to avoid problems down the line.

 

Where did they say that 4.4 GHz is guaranteed? All I see is "up to," and they're not telling if it's 4.4 GHz across all cores or just one.

ROFL I just remembered the "5 GHz" AW18 at PAX this year.

 

Some gaming laptop with 120hz?
Clevo

 

Do any of their 120 Hz models come with a 980M?

 

Nice find Cloudfire, and the overclock is all well and good, but not really the interesting part of the story.

Seems Alienware 17/18 are still using socketed CPUs, YAY!!!

Now how long till they are launched? The 18" one really tempts me.