GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

I'm glad you think so! I have fallen in love with this P35X v3 and would hate to have to get the MSI GT72 (as great as I'm sure it is) for reasons I mentioned a few pages back.

I have always looked at only the maximum temps for anything, ever. Anytime I've compared temps between my laptops and others on this forum I've only ever used maximums. Didn't think that others might not be doing the same! Never given fan tables any thought whatsoever. But it does make sense, now that you mention this. Faith = restored

 

That's a lot of hyperbole.. Is not melting faces...

 

If you run it with your face right against the keyboard it just might melt.

 

what ever happened to mr fox? havent seen him around the threads lately...

i hope alienware makes a 3k/4k screen for their 980m sli laptop coming soon, then im sold

 

Ok since there's an actual gt60 running with the new 970m , that opens the door to an important question.Will the current gt60/70 dominator owners with 870m/880m equipped in their laptops be able to upgrade too using the new shiny upgrade kit ?1st thing I know is that the new heatsink coming with this kit won't probably work on the gt60/70 since it is designed to work with the new gt72 models only, , which has a very different cooling system.So the old heatsink should do the job
So what about the power/wat difference between ths two cards ? Ths 870 and ths 980 for example since that is the upgrade I want to make ? Would I need to upgrade my heatsink? And why should I do it when msi is shipping the old gt60 with 970m without any change in design ? And would I need to upgrade bios ?Please help us - the owners of the gt70/60 dominator to figure it out. I am sure every owner of this laptop is asking the same questions

 

980M and 970M feature on the WAN show. Interesting discussion. Lasts about 10 minutes. Starts at 18:30 if the timestamp isn't working (posting this on Nexus 5).



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I agree with Linus on how they've been scheming and squeezing two releases out of each architecture and not giving us the performance we'd expect. That's why I'm more inclined to wait for Pascal, as it will be an actual die shrink, and a completely new architecture, on top of the other things, like Stacked DRAM and Unified Memory. It seems like Maxwell is just a more efficient version of Kepler. It's not what a lot of us expected. It's a bit embarassing that the 780Ti can perform equally or outperform the GTX 980, and NVIDIA had to stop producing the 780Ti to force individuals to purchase the GTX 980. I think that clearly shows that both NVIDIA and Intel have really taken re-branding to an entirely new level, and AMD is just tagging along for the ride. It's a shame that there isn't really any true competition anymore. It's watered down for sure.

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Intel is doing the exact same thing with Broadwell. They've basically just made Haswell more efficient, and hopefully cooler, and are now selling it to us as an entirely new release when it's really nothing new. But I don't think CPU's are that big of a deal for us gamers. So, I wouldn't expect Broadwell to be a huge improvement over Haswell... At least Skylake and Pascal are going to actually be new. I think 2016 will change gaming. I think 1440p or 1600p will become the new standard, and I think it will blow "Kepwell" out of the water.

I still want a 980M, though. If they're cheaper than previous cards, I'll probably grab one.

 

Well 980 and 970 are a lot cheaper. You can easily overclock 970 to 780ti stock.

 

I just got my hands on the gt72 dominator pro, gonna run firestrike with OC if any1 is interested

edit gtx 980m version ofc

 

Update, I got a +135mhz upgrade on my gtx980m, graphic score of 10340. Enjoy people NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4710HQ,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-1781.
Max temperature was 73, but most of the time barely hit 69(with fans on max)

!!!!!!

edit: link for more OC/results http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...cards/763072-gtx-980m-performance-thread.html

 

He's just a bit busy these days, I believe. He is around, just not as often lately.

I've been saying the same thing since I saw the maxwell architecture launch, both for desktops and for mobiles. Hell, mobiles are poised to get a triple release again. 980M is woefully underpowered compared to logic statistics about what it should be (GTX 980 = cooler and less power hungry than GTX 680. GTX 680 exists, albeit with a fixable downclock, in mobile form factors without incident as the 780M. Therefore 980 should be well capable of existing in mobile form factors) and unlike last time, where the 680M was based on the 670 which was the bang for buck bad boy, the 980M is more cut down than both the 970 and 980 chips. They're milking things and we know it. They should also have launched with GM200/GM210 rather than GM204 on the desktop side of things. That's milking too.

Problem is there's nobody stopping them from doing it and it makes money. It's more up to AMD to ram them off the road and take the performance and value crowns and make them actually push out their better stuff at competitive prices. That way the consumers win by a mile.

And don't get me STARTED on haswell/broadwell. Haswell is so bloody hot it should sell at half price for all non-ULV mobile chips. Most of those HP notebooks or whatever that people buy with i7s in them for media work/video rendering? Those things downclock themselves even BELOW their base clocks sometimes... and if you throttlestop them, they crack 100 degrees and lock the chip at 0.3GHz (I am SERIOUS) or induce thermal shutdowns.

 

Do crysis 3. One of the hardest games to run. Highest temps typically.

 

Battlefield 4 usually pushes any system the hardest.

Stock GT72:

Crysis 3:
Ultra 1080p First level
Avg FPS: 42.3
Min FPS: 32
Temps CPU 68 / GPU 70

Battlefield 4 64 player ~ 20 minutes
Ultra 1080p Operation Firestorm
Avg FPS: 68.0
Min FPS: 29
Temps: CPU 77 / GPU 71

 

Is that the 970M?

EDIT: It's the 980M. http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...ficially-announced-nvidia-75.html#post9797936

 

Thank you. I appreciate all the reviews you do.

Yeah. If thats 970m then wow. 980m gonna run Crysis pretty well.

 

That's interesting. In my experience BF4 keeps GPUs quite cool and pushes CPUs hard, but 68 deg for the CPU is ice cold for Crysis 3, and 77 for BF4? Wow. I know my room is hot but at stock with -50mV I usually get 90 deg average on my CPU playing BF4 at any given time. I really need an AC for this place XD.

 

It's the 980M. I'm not that impressed, but I'll remain optimistic until HT's full review is released.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...ficially-announced-nvidia-75.html#post9797936

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@HT: Is that 980M soldered? Can't wait to see your full review, lol. I have so many questions.

 

What is not impressive? the massive firestrike GPU score difference compared to 780m/880m? hahaha

The GT72 does not use soldered GPU, and they infact have upgradable official support to change current 880m GPU to 980m if you want to buy the kit!

I also am fully waiting for the HT review

 

His in-game (real world performance) results. They're not that impressive, but maybe I just had too high of expectations.

That's what I get for being all hyped up.

 

And early drivers...

 

Yeah, that's why I said I'll remain optimistic.

 

I just wanna play Assassins Creed Unity. Probably gonna run really bad. Constant 40fps max settings with that game on one 980m would exceed my expectations.

 

You'd need two 980Ms with a +50% OC on each and dual PSUs with a 4940MX at 4.7GHz and an AC vent blowing up your laptop's vents to get 15fps on high at 1080p. Because Ubisoft.

 

I think he might need a fusion reactor

 

This guy. If that happens I will demand a refund. Assassins creed revelations and all games before ftw. Assassins creed 3+ fail... but I really like france so....

 

I have an intense hatred for every single decision Ubisoft has made toward the PC crowd and toward optimization and cutting down of game graphics for the PC crowd for years, since Assassin's Creed 2, and they started to get a little better... JUST A LITTLE... and then they went way worse, starting with AC4 into Watch Dogs into The Division's inside information (source verified and hidden as a Ubisoft Employee at the studio making the game), into AC unity and who knows how badly Far Cry 4 is going to turn out. They are one of two publishers who I sincerely believe should never make another game for PC again, or if they do, sell it for $5 at most for the effort they put toward the PC crowd.

The other publisher is Activision.

Most other places seem to at least care if their game runs ok... even if requirements are somewhat bloated, like SoM.

There's benefiting from strong cards and then there's a publisher wants your platform to suffer for reasons unknown to the general public. I hope absolutely nobody in the world buys AC Unity. Period. On any system. Let them reap the rewards of their stupid marketing and decisions.

^ That is the first time I've been seriously angry in a good few days. Didn't realize it cut so deeply with me.

 

Well I will let ya know how it runs. I wanna play ACU, Wolfenstein, Old AC games, Crysis 3, BF4, maybe Far Cry 3. GTA V burn in hell. Ummm... idk old games. I figure 60+ fps on
Wolfenstein
Old AC games (revelations and before)
Far Cry 3
BF4

Precarious fps
Crysis 3
Assassins creed 3+
GTA V (15 fps)

Idk any other cool games coming out? Its weird that the last time I checked the mobile cards get great fps with crysis 2 but crysis 3, which is very similar if not the same, has fps. Wanna really play crysis 3

 

You will not get 60fps constant in Far Cry 3. I don't get 60fps constant in Far Cry 3 and it's a GPU toaster as well. Well you will if you turn down the AA.

Old AC games maybe. Not AC4 I'm sure.

Crysis 3 you probably won't get 60fps constant at max

GTA V... lol probably 15fps for real.

Wolfenstein you should get well over 60fps. BF4 too.

 

I played all the way through crysis 3 maxed out with my 880m, it was perfectly smooth and i didnt have any issues. i got an average of 35-55 fps throughout the whole game. the fluctuation in frame rates wasnt that noticible. i personally think it's a better optimized game for pc. 40 fps on crysis 3 looks way smoother and fast compared to battlefield 4 at 40 fps. idk what it is, but even 50 fps on bf4 looks choppy. i used to play bf3 with just an intel hd 4000 at 25 fps and that looked smoother lol

 

Idk got easy 60fps with far cry 3 on gtx 480. I never really turn on AA. Maybe Msaa. AA kills fps badly. Assassins creeds games before AC3 are not that demanding

 

I don't consider leaving AA off "maxing" a game. If I say I "max" a game, it means I've turned on AA as high as it'll go, except for SSAA unless it's built into the game's default AA (like with Sleeping Dogs). But for example... in Tomb Raider or Sniper Elite V2, I'll mention SSAA separately, because it isn't exactly "maxing" a game at the resolution you're claiming to max it at. But for stuff like BO2 and such? 16xQ CSAA all the way when I say "max" XD.

 

If you want to cut your fps in half... Put it on a little. Never could run it on anything new. ACIV I got 20-30 max including aa with my 480 but that thing got so hot so fast.

 

Haha. The amount of people who say they play on max graphics and get impressive FPS and their AA is off. It's crazy. Guy once told me he got 90+fps in Far Cry 3 all the time with two 680s. I was like... I can't even get 50 constant, how do you do it? And he said he just maxed it. Then I said how I had to turn it down to 4x MSAA so I don't go below like 40fps, and he said how he left AA off. I was like *facepalm*

 

Banned for wanton laptop abuse apparently!

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...-900m-series-officially-announced-nvidia.html
It looks like Far Cry 3 and Assassins Creed will run easily 60fps because Far Cry 3 is getting over 60 on 2K and assassins creed iv on 40fps on 2K. And that is max settings.

 

Maybe he destroyed his new Alienware18 with the "powerful" overclocking profile in the new biosA10 ?

 

Although I have to say I loved Far Cry3 for the game & graphics, and it ran really well on mine too. (Ran it maxed out except AA off, but didn't notice any jaggies - I think it has post processing AA included anyway I think I read - was 45fps+ mostly from memory)

 

Haha, I noticed there was a new BIOS out for it too, but I don't think his CPU had anymore to gain from that BIOS anyway - I think I remember 1.5V and close to 5GHz!

 

Then a single 980M is better than two 950/6000 780Ms by an order of magnitude necessary to get better average FPS at 2560 x 1600 than I can get a 1920 x 1080.

Don't get me wrong, without AA or with lower AA it runs pretty well. I would have HOPED for 120fps because 120Hz screen and all. I distinctly remember that 8x MSAA had problems though, and sometimes I'd even hit 40fps with 4xMSAA on. It is possible I played it before heavy driver updates, but when I played it was around christmas of 2013, so I don't think so.

 

Maybe a bit like you were saying earlier, NVidia's definition of 'Maxed Settings' doesn't include the AA, that might explain the high fps for Far Cry 3 in that graph.

 

Maybe if a sizable number of us boycott a couple of their games, enough to create some noise in the social media(like WD), enough to warrant an official response from the Ubisoft, maybe they would change their ways?

 

Waiting for the sub 15 inch 970m/980m notebooks to show face.

 

I am dead certain of it. There is lots of marketing propaganda, tailored to make the consumers feel justified in their purchase.

For example: They said tomb raider runs at 9fps on battery and Grid 2 ran at 13fps on battery right? That's an outright LIE. A blatant, outright, lie. It LOOKS good, good enough to buy. And maybe a 680M does so if you put it in a machine that forcibly throws the cards to 2D clocks on battery... but not here with a Clevo. In fact, I made a video about it before I was typing this up. You can see that even in the video (and note my second card *IS* turned on, draining some power, AND I was recording; you can see when I go on battery due to the battery meter at the top right). Even recording with a stock 780M (which is not worlds better than a 680M) I didn't hit 13fps even once. Not for half of a second. Got close, but never hit it.

And in addition, when I was playing normally without recording on battery, the slowdowns never went below 35fps. It is perfectly playable at the resolution and settings I showed in my video on battery (1920 x 1080, 120Hz, MAXED settings; cannot go any higher, at all, period). There is no way, under any circumstances, a 680M gets 13fps where I get 35, especially considering the 120Hz vs 60Hz (and in which case, one could knock some settings off ultra EASY).

And for proof of nVidia's propaganda, we have this image:

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So yeah. We have some problems here. I'm not saying that the 980M and 970M are not good improvements... I am saying please take information straight up with a grain of salt. Unless someone like Mr. Fox shows you all the settings with the state of the CPU and GPUs and all that, don't believe anything a marketing team says about their product. Their job is to make you want to buy it, not to be totally specific.
As for the video, here it is:

 

Could you tell me the correct order of those graphics cards (top/down)?
-Gtx 780 SLI
- Gtx 880m
- Gtx 880m SLI
- Gtx 970m
- Gtx 980m
- Gtx 970m SLI
- Gtx 980m SLI
- AMD M290X crossfire

 

You can find out more by comparing on notebookcheck.net and cross referencing with sites like Guru3D, but from memory I think this:

780 sli
980M sli
970M sli
880M sli
780M sli
980M = M290x crossfire
970M

That's how I'd categorise it.

 

Hey guys,

I am considering to buy a clevo P670 xx (17,3" brother of the P650 xx). At the moment I have a clevo P170EM with a GTX 675 MX in use. Does anybody know how much more gpu power I can expect (compare to the 970M and 980M)?

 

Well the 980M is about 130% versus the 680M (which itself appears to be 40% faster than the 675), but there has only been one fairly high level review of the new Clevo (which pointed to some (deal breaking for me) minuses like solder and temps). Any reason you don't want to stay with the P170 (SM-A)?

 

Does Schenker have a laptop with ips (17" and bluray burner)??
Future models??

 

Sorry, but has this card been released in the UK?

 

Not in MXM form but if you mean inside new laptop models, then yes.

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