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    GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cakefish, Oct 7, 2014.

  1. kolias

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    hi guys do you think that gtx980m-970m will be compatible with my msi barebone 1763 ? :confused:
    thanks mates.
     
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    How do you figure? 780M cards are being sold for 855 while 980M is going for 730?
     
  3. RMXO

    RMXO Notebook Deity

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    Sorry I meant on laptops and not cards itself, some OEM are charging a few hundred dollars more or I'm way off and they are charging the same.

    Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
     
  4. HopelesslyFaithful

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    gotcha. I was talking about card only :) They appear to be the same for the 980m vs the 680m so the 780m is like the 985m since they both are full chips.

    just sad that AMD is releasing a card that can only match the 970m -_- so there is no real competition
     
  5. joshwaan2k

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    Yeah it is sad, I love AMD cards I hate there drivers though :p

    Anyone know cheapest place to buy a 970M MXM card or a 980M?
     
  6. ZerockX

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    Dude, the time does affect the price.
     
  7. HopelesslyFaithful

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    Can't get one if u have a Dell until Dell releases theirs. no compatibile vbios exist
     
  8. Killerinstinct

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    I have been wondering when dell will be releasing their maxwell refreshes , as Dell ever been late to launching a refresh?
     
  9. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Dell is a private company now. They do not need to bend over for every shareholder anymore. I suppose schedules could have changed due to this.
     
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  10. D2 Ultima

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    This is totally off-topic yet slightly on-topic. Posting anyway.

    With your shiny new 970M and 980Ms, you guys too can do graphics comparisons like this:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Powerful configuration. I want to own 1 unit =) how much it will cost? and where I should buy to ensure quality
     
  12. adam1pplayer

    adam1pplayer Notebook Enthusiast

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    Do anyone know if or where you can buy the GT72 with the 4980HQ processor, under/near 3000$?! (3000$ In Europe or 2250$ with 25% tax outside of Europe). NO SSD NEEDED :eek: :)
     
  13. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Drop that processor and get an SSD, believe me you will benefit like 100 times more.

     
  14. HopelesslyFaithful

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    as far as i know no but thats also a 1k processor IIRC so good luck getting that under 3k. Also i hope you enjoy those horrible taxation rates. US isn't far behind in grand scheme of thing but damn. You might as well invest in learning how to build your own fab and computer facility

    no excuse...that is terrible business and they will loose customers. Also i don't think that ever went through

    he probably already has one. Also that CPU is kinda a huge waste unless your work flow is heavy single tread and your time is worth endless money
     
  15. adam1pplayer

    adam1pplayer Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have thought about getting at least one small SSD windows, just for fast booting time. I want the greater processor to be future proof for games, since its not upgradable and im planning to have it for 5 years. How does an SSD benifit for that?
     
  16. HopelesslyFaithful

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    i myself try to get nothing but the best single thread process possible but even myself would be content with a 4870HQ if i couldn't get an XM chip.

    If you are getting a soldered GPU its disposable. You don;t keep it longer then 3 years as main rig.

    Also SSDs are much better for day to day use. The snappiness is worth every penny. I personally would get a ramdisk if they still made PCIe ramdisks in a heart beat.
     
  17. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    U should try loading Star Citizen Arena Commander without an SSD. I am telling this many times in these forums, we majorly use our laptops with daily activities instead of gaming, and an SSD will help you speed those activities up by 10 times (like 5 second boot times instead of 1-2 minutes or opening MATLAB in 1 second or any other software for that matter) AND you won't see much of a difference between 3.7ghz boost and 4.0ghz boost (unless you are using your laptop for benchmarking software you develop that relies only on CPU, which is a bad practice already, get access to a super computer!), it is purely just getting the epsilon faster chip out there for additional 500 dollars, trust me. If you were going for an extreme chip I would say yea, maybe you will need the better cache, but don't do it for your sake.

     
  18. HopelesslyFaithful

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    5 s boot is bull crap. The best i have seen with SSDs is 1-4x speed boost and 3-4x is rare.

    But SSDs do help loads. NS2 has horrible loads and if you don't have an SSD it can take 4 times longer...maybe more but thats also because NS2 sucks
     
  19. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    m.2 mSATA SSDs boot seriously in 5 seconds, my Razer Blade 14 boots less than that probably :eek:

     
  20. Cakefish

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    What?! Explain to me how my Clevo boots up in 5 seconds then? Samsung 840 Pros are fast! Which is why I'm really excited to get my hands on a 850 Pro in my new laptop :D

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
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    if only the 4710 came with the ips screen on the gt72 :(
     
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  22. HopelesslyFaithful

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    you probably don't have many things installed. With how much i have installed i never saw a huge drop in boost times...maybe half. Hibernation times were maybe 1/3-1/2
     
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    Its called MUX and Alienware 18 got it
     
  24. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    You gotta manage your startup programs bro, if you load 10 involved programs, you will definitely get 10 more seconds. :)

     
  25. HopelesslyFaithful

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    Point was more stuff you have the less benefits you see from ssds because it comes down to different bottlenecks
     
  26. HopelesslyFaithful

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    That not exactly a push of a button when you have to restart loose all work and takes a min or two to reload.
     
  27. Cakefish

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    Gigabyte confirmed their 3K displays are matte. I thought they were glossy.

    Do I dare switch to 3K? Is running at 1080p on a 1620p display really that bad?

    Anyone had first hand experience of this kind of thing?

    Maybe I should check out the MSI sub-forums...
     
  28. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It'll kill FPS, lol.
     
  29. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    970m handsomely handles most games (except Crysis 3) at 3k native resolution. THOUGH temps are dangerous, I would say wait for your 1080p laptop first, see if it is indeed not running too hot, then you can return it within 15 days for full refund for 3k resolution if you figure out it can handle that resolution. Because a full 980m will be able to handle 3k resolution (even maybe Crysis 3 at high settings).

     
  30. Vitor711

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    My 980m equipped clevo just got sent out. Should arrive Friday. Happiness!

    I'll be sure to post my impressions as I haven't seen anything around here on that particular model. That being said, all the other components are the same as what I have now so I can't imagine it'll be much different. Still, as long as the fans run less loud due to the cooler boards, I'll be happy.
     
  31. vanfanel

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    same here :thumbsup:
     
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    Where did you order from? I thought I'd stick with PowerNoteBooks as their service has been pretty excellent thus far.

    All of the benchmarks I see for the 980m pair it up with the i7-4710qm which is weird. Looking forward to running the benchmarks on a few games with my i7-4810qm to see if there is a bottleneck there as suggested by others.

    Still, if the minimum 30% performance boost is to be believed, I'll actually be able to get a steady 60 on games such as Shadow of Mordor which are giving me drops to the mid-40s right now. Ryse is similar although it's running between 30-45 so not sure the boost would be sufficient to get me to 60, especially as it prefers AMD architecture anyway. Regardless, I'm just happy it's arriving in time for AC: Unity and the new Call of Duty, both of which look pretty great graphically (FC4 is also a get for me but that looks very much like an updated FC3 so I doubt it'll push the GPU too far).
     
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    Ordered from xoticpc since I've used them in the past. According to xoticpc my order is still in phase 2 however I use UPS my choice (free btw) so I get notified instantly when a product is heading my way as soon as it's in the system. So I usually get these notifications from UPS before I get them from the vendors :)
     
  34. Cakefish

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    Indeed. I'd be forced to run games below native resolution. I just want to know whether that impacts image quality as badly as running a game non-natively on a 1080p display.

    From PC Gamer:

    "Here are the average frames per second results of each benchmark at 1080p and ultra settings, typically with 4x MSAA and an ultra preset. In Tomb Raider, TressFX was enabled; in Metro: Last Light, tessellation was set to high."

    [​IMG]

    I'd be running all demanding AAA games below native resolution if I did opt for the 3K model.

    Is Windows 8.1 manageable at 2880x1620 15.6" with no scaling? I couldn't stand to have any scaling.
     
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    Hi Cakefish, I have been following all your recent posts on the Gigabyte P35x V3 and I have been really interested in this model for a long time now. I'm really torn between a 1080p screen and a 3k one. I am relieved to learn that the display for the 3k is matte. My gut instinct tells me that the 3k version should run present and future games just fine, without a noticeable hit on fps. I am concerned though about the cooling. How did you come to your decision?
     
  36. Ningyo

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    @cakefish
    Remember those benchmarks are NOT being run in 3k they were 2560x1600(4,096,000 pixels) if I remember right, thats a 16:10 ratio equivalent of the 2560x1440p resolution. 3K tends refer to either 2880x1620 (4,665,600 pixels) or 3200x1800 (5,760,000 pixels).

    Also they ran all resolutions with the same AA settings which you should be able to lower some due to the higher resolution.
     
  37. HopelesslyFaithful

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    do you play older games? Do you plan on using 3k for work stuff like access, excel, word, and PDF files? Do you plan on doing photo shop or want to see high res images? If that isn't a bulk of your work then 3k is useless and don't waste your time. New games won't run or look good on it and only fairly older games will work well. If you need high res for the non gaming stuff then definitely get it! But otherwise its a waste and will case more trouble.

    no its not 1600p is 11.1% large then 1440p, which can be more demanding then a mere 11.1% more. 3k is even worse but it (1600p) is in any way an eqivalient to 1440p. LArger the res goes the harder it is to drive due to ?raster issues? i forgot what was being discussed earlier but its substantial more pixels and load on GPU. 3k...well rofl

    The low end 3k is slightly larger difference at ~13% compared to 11.1% so the hit is even worse on multiple levels. Whatever those frames are for 1600P they could be 15-30% worse depending on the card...maybe even worse but i don't know off my head

    if you lowered AA a little the end result will be *i bet* the same in FPS, which is garbage.
     
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    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    I wonder how bad the scaling would be from 1600p to 1080p, the scaling difference is not much (I can see if it might be trouble for 1080p and 1200p) therefore the interpolated image shouldn't look too bad imho. Though you never know until you see it, for me the important issue is daily life usage, where 3k screen is significantly better than 1080p. I think the scaling for games shouldn't be too bad, after all I did non native resolution gaming quite a lot on laptops and didn't notice blurry image like ever.
     
  39. HopelesslyFaithful

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    for me blurriness is pretty bad in those cases but i do enough where i wouldn't game it very much in laptop form so i would go 3k.
     
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    dat 970M :D
     
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    I'm like maxheap, I've never once had an issue with non native resolution being a problem during gaming. The higher the resolution the less noticeable it is too. Sometimes I run games at 900p instead of 1080 to get the FPS up a bit, and it isn't even noticeable. It's basically like a free/no cost way to get AA for me.

    Now with text in windows yes I always want to be at native or an even multiple.

    Generally I prefer to get the highest resolution display I can. The 3k 14" Razer was borderline too high res tho for that size and trying to read text and get fonts correct.
     
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    Razer blade actually is closer in pixels per inch to a 4k 15.6" screen than a 3k 15.6" screen though.

    15.6" 3840 x 2160 = 282 ppi (4k resolution for all 15.6" screens so far)
    14.1" 3200 x 1800 = 260 ppi (Razer blade 14 resolution)
    15.6" 2880 x 1620 = 212 ppi (3k resolution for all 15.6" screens so far)
     
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    Well I've gone ahead and ordered an extra RAM module for my P35X v3 (as well as the 1TB Samsung 850 Pro!). Amazon was rapidly running out of stock of the 850 Pro and to save money and time I need to get them both delivered in the same order. This locks me into the 1080p model as it would be a waste to swap to the 3K model now, which already comes with two RAM modules pre-installed. 212 PPI is dreamy but I guess for now 141 PPI will have to do for now!

    Next laptop after this Gigabyte will be 3K and the GPU will be more than capable by that time!
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Thankfully I have no interest in MP unless it's CS, TFC or TF2
     
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    what about cod, crysis, bf, and all those fps and rpg....
     
  47. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Sadly I canceled my order after xotic said mSATA SSDs were in backorder for at least 2 weeks :( back to my 765m :( I will wait for 4k version of the laptop and/or gigabyte p35x v3 benchmarks.
     
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    Why don't you order a SKU without SSDs and buy them yourself? Its cheaper and you can handpick the fastest ones.
     
  50. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Did you see the inside of gs60? :D it is like a nightmare, you open back and you get mobo, everything is packed between mobo and keyboard, you HAVE to remove the mobo first, god no! :eek:

     
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