GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

yeah there is other differences but i cant seem to find a laptop that is anywhere near the 1500 with 6 gb other than sager which i dont want.

 

Thanks!

 

I know everyone on this forum likes thin laptops but for those interested in good performance for a great price check this clevo model out: XOTIC PC | Sager NP8268 (Clevo P150SM-A) - 15.6" Gaming Notebook

NP8268 with gtx 980m = $1648.03
NP8268 with gtx 970m = $1357.03

Those are exact numbers. Base price. Gives you a lot of room to add ssds or anything else.

 

6GB VRAM + RAM upgrade to 16GB costs 100$ only officially from MSI MSRP for GS60 , can find it cheaper in actual online shops so why are you making a big deal out of it specially when people have already pointed out the vram thing is not hype its real thing and already there, get the 3GB VRAM please and enjoy your stutter, not turning ultra on when you are already getting 90fps on 60fps screen is just laughable, the 970m is powerful enough to run games at high frame rate on 1080p screen

 

I hope your stomach is ready when Witcher 3 comes out. :laugh:

 

This 3gb stutter talk is nonsense. I have a desktop 770 with 2 GB and it plays practically every game I throw at it at max graphics at 1080p.

Expecting every console port to have 6gb Vram requirements and to stutter on anything less is a little naive.

 

I've just read stuff about GPU binning. Does this mean that most of the time 980m will be a better overclocker than 970m? Please enlighten me o great minds

 

Why is nobody looking at the Gigabyte P35W, P35X, and P34W? They are thin and light and come with the 6GB 970m and 8GB 980m. I'm almost tempted to go with 980m, but I still think it will be too darn hot for the chassis and cooling system.

You obviously haven't tried Shadow of Mordor yet. It's an unfortunate truth with consoles having 8GB unified RAM for system and GPU, the vRAM requirement will go up considerably with newer released games. It shouldn't, but it will.

 

Alright. I'll check it out. If it doesn't have a soldered cpu and the price isn't silly...

EDIT: Good price for a thin laptop but I cannot commit to a soldered cpu.

 

MSI is ready to ship when order placed
Gigabyte P35G has no release date yet some reported November
Plus gigabyte has the worse keyboard flex i have ever seen in a laptop

P34g issues
Keyboard flex
no subwoofer is bass is lacking
GS60 has 2ssd+hd slot (p34 ssd+hd only)
p34g has no 144hz output just 60fps hdmi+vga i use 144hz external sometimes
Gigabyte? never heard of them when i use my laptop in public lol (msi better demand/resale value)

P34 has superior cooling though and lighter by 300Grams/smaller overall 14inch+smaller bezel than gs60

but "superior" cooling was dyuo the fact it had maxwell gpu too, now gs60 has maxwell the cooling issue hopefully is in the past, considering 980m is being put in a thinner laptops or as thin the 970m should be even cooler and not worried about gs60 cooling it

 

P34 is lacking a bit it seems, but P35 seems to have its act together from reviews I've browsed. Will have to look into the keyboard flex a little more though.

 

A god has fallen, I am dissapoint, etc.

How about: There's a chance it might, but it probably won't, and if it does it will rise a bit and then level off. And it certainly won't with a decent developer on the task. Will there be edge cases? Of course. Will 3GB be suitable for the next couple of years? You bet.

I mean, in these threads we've got people conflating what the 8GB console memory "translates" to in terms of PC allocation, and then pointing to "memory usage" stats, all while omitting any discussion of caching. It's tough to buy into the hype when the details are so wrong.

I'm passionate about this because I don't want any of us to accept mailed-in ports with ridiculous vRAM requirements, and I also don't want anyone to fall prey to GPU marketing and price differentials on GPUs with increased vRAM all for marginal gains around the edges.

 

GPU binning likely will have little to do with overclockability. They separate the chips by how many SMMs function perfectly. So a Chip with >10 but <12 SMM without defects becomes a 970m. A chip with >12 but <16 becomes a 980m. A chip with all 16 perfect they probably save for an eventual 990m or such.

Also since the 980m starts at a higher clock, it might actually not be able to overclock by as much. Either way its mostly luck of the draw on exactly how well your specific chip overclocks.

 

I have been a nay sayer all this time too. But after Mordor and some research, it may very well be the case that more vRAM requirement is inevitable. Sure you can cache, but in Mordor I can notice it at Very High and Ultra details, the stutter. The game indicates even a "high" setting requires 3GB vRAM but it runs smoothly with my 2GB GTX 860m.

edit: not to mention the Evil Within and Witcher 3 system requirements... and even the upcoming Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare recommending 4GB vRAM... gah. I'm sure there will be more to come.

 

Yeah P35 fix few issues, has 144hz output+subwoofer+multiple storage slots
But the flex is still there (reported by many others) and it's thicker just a little bit+heavier than GS60 and it's still a gigabyte , pay 2500$ for a laptop and people think you are using a 300$ laptop is not cool, at least the gs60 does look expensive and has multicolor keyboard

And as i said before, the GS60 is ready to ship now, the gigabyte p35 has no release date yet

 

Dat aorus x7 pro tho

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Except I like white keyboard, and don't want it to look expensive! Personally I think the MSI looks like a toy. That's not an insult, just my personal opinion. I like good cooling, reasonably packaged, with a simple but elegant look.

Waiting on the updated X3 Plus with 970m.

 

Yep, buying a laptop that has "steal me" written all over it probably isn't such a good idea, not to mention looking out of place in professional environments if you use your machine for work.

 

Right. Alienware, Macbook, Razer even... sits there unattended, swiped. Clevo, Gigabyte... just a typical underpowered business laptop...

Wonder if there's any decent way to fix the keyboard flex. I've done it in the past by putting a thin sheet of anti-static foam underneath, or strategically placing a couple thin plastic washers. Not ideal, but it works.

 

You can pick any 1 color and stick with it so not a big deal with the GS60, another feature that i really really like that was added to the new GS60 only (older one didn't have it, the feature was available for GT72 ONLY)
is the Killer Double Shot Pro with Smart Teaming
Basically you can Stream/download Via wireless connection and play using the Ethernet connection, 2 separate internet connections working in the same time, so whatever you download or whatever wont kill your gameplay plus it has less lag than normal wireless when used for gaming, and if you have 2 separate connections (online 4G via phone/etc + internet broadband) it can combine them

Usually i don't notice flex or care about it, but holy the flex in gigabyte was massive in the middle of the keyboard and simply couldn't ignore it, easily noticeable when typing anything even when i try to forget that it's there, my hands feel it and hate it.

 

Gs60 looks more like a toy to you than the x3+?

 

MSI always seems to be ahead of the curve in terms of feature creep. Let's see how it translates into practical real-world usage.

 

I did read about it and it works as intended, people with the GT72 had it a while ago was just added to gs60 with the 970m update.

 

I dunno. So far, other than the Gigabyte, nothing is striking me as that great. Too bad for the keyboard flex because that would drive me nuts. The battery life on the MSI is also pretty poor it seems, and really despise the logo. I had high hopes for the new thin Sagers too, but they only offer glossy screens it seems. Grr.

Seems I have time to wait though because seems most laptops won't be available for another couple of weeks.

 

Have you taken a look at this: Customize Fangbook Edge Gaming Notebook ?

It's based on the MSI but with a different logo. Also seems to have a lower starting price as well as a 4870HQ (I believe the ones from MSI carry 4710HQs).

Hope it helps!

 

GeForce GTX 970M 6.0GB
GeForce GTX 980M 8.0GB

These are the MXM cards do we know the TDP for the MXM cards yet?

Also any pricing on the cards yet?

 

Just saw this, not sure if has been posted yet.

ASUS ROG G751JY-DH71 Gaming Laptop Intel Core i7 4710HQ (2.50GHz) 24GB Memory 1TB HDD 256 GB (2x128G RAID) SSD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M 4GB 17.3" Windows 8.1 64-Bit - Newegg.com

980M w/ 4GB VRAM, meh... I wouldn't mind if it was $1,999.

 

Keyboard flex on P35W v2: Gigabyte P35W V2 Laptop Review #11: Using the Keyboard - YouTube

I don't know if this will get fixed on this revision .

 

GeForce GTX 980M 8.0GB SLI
YUUUM!

Better for me to wait for the Hi-End Quadro card based on the GTX 980M...two of them!
and some E5-2697-v2 will be nice when the prices will drop a bit.
The P570Wm is a good base for my needs.

 

Oh my god, this is exactly what I've been looking for! I'm in Australia but I'm seriously leaning toward buying off xoticpc anyway. I can just see the same laptop retailing over here for ~$3500 for no particular reason.

 

Yeah that is a pretty bad flex. Why do companies skimp on stuff like that? I doubt they updated the keyboard as they likely just concentrated on the 970m/980m integration. But who knows, hopefully they did.

 

WOW that keyboard flex. I would be avoiding that now thanks very mooch

 

I am trying to find a physical store where I can purchase one of the new Ghost Pro models tomorrow (Wednesday) in north New Jersey or New York City.
I am flying the following day.

Is there any place where you think I can find one ? I don't need any customization just the stock laptop.
I searched official retailers (best buy, microcenter etc...) but found nothing about the new models.
Xotic offers their overnight shipment but I can't risk the laptop being late on Thursday.


Thanks !
JD

 

How come no one is paying attention at the Sager NP8278S from xoticpc
gtx 970m 6GB for $1400,
gtx 980m 8gb for $1700

I am consider getting one of these, but the fact that you guys are ignoring these sager comments is concerning me.

 

Does the Sager NP8278S with 970M option come with an IPS or TN screen?

 

Actually I joked about Clevo being a theft deterrent since "it's so 90s man". Not only will the Clevo not be swiped, it may even have a protective effect on the items around it because one glance at the Clevo and the potential thief just keeps walking.

 

Yeah. Just get it man if you understand its just hardware and a name. MSI, clevo, asus are all offering the same performance. Its just, it appears, more people are inclined towards a specific design attribute: thinness. I look at all these other laptops and a lot of the MSI and asus models have HQ cpus which I guess no one cares about, all of a sudden. I want something to play games on that will not melt itself and is mobile. I cannot take a desktop on navy ships so a laptop is my only choice. Will extra inch and a half or few pounds hinder my limited space? No. Will I throw out my back carrying one of these thicker laptops? Thats what people make it sound like. Any laptop is better than carrying a desktop. A lot of people, however like the design of thinner laptops. Clevo is the cheapest brand while offering the exact same hardware. Its not like each brand sells proprietary components they made. Many laptops are actually based of the clevo models or even use parts of their chassis. But for them it has to be a metallic case or thinner, which is fine. For me, its not at a point where it is affordable or practical to play games due to the high temps. But let the early adopters buy them all up and allow the price to drop and in a few years, I'll get one. It just doesn't fit my function. By then thin laptops will be efficient in design and price. Nothing against the people who prefer these designs but I would rather save money for games and on a faster, cooler laptop; not the cutting of corners and edges.

 

Can't wait for the 1080M

 

I have been paying attention and I am quite disappointed. Typically Clevo (Sager's Chassis) updates every time a new GPU releases. If not the whole package atleast some parts. I do not see it happening now.

XOTIC PC | Sager NP8268 (Clevo P150SM-A) - 15.6" Gaming Notebook
Still lists last year's model - 880M poster and specifications. They are just replacing the MXM 970M GPU.

Clevo website - Google Translate
Absolutely same model as last year. Only difference, they have stated support for 980M and 970M.

The build is the same. No change to ports, screen, build, speakers, reduction of weight and neither change in power adapter. Last year the 800M refresh were so bad they used the 180W adapter instead of 140W if I am right. This year I thought because 900Ms seem to have lower TGP they might go for lighter adapter. Also I thought they might bring down the weight from 3Kg. Alas the same.

Don't get me wrong - they are the best in price vs performance. :thumbsup:
But I don't like to buy last year's stupid design with newer GPU tech. Defeats the purpose IMO.

I believe its IPS.

 

I think its because they realize there is no reason to change the design. A new cpu might merit a new motherboard and consequently new ports. These "new" designs are primarily arbitrary. Just to catch the eye. They are not real engineering designs that improve function.

 

YES! Super excited all this news/these new models dropped today. A bit disappointed in Nvidia's cutting down of the 980m, but I'll live. After meticulously checking resellers, none of the new models offer 120hz screens though. :cry: That's okay though; I have faith that at this very second, the aliens are in contact with Dell sending their new models across the cosmos to Earth with said screens. On a good note, I did notice a lot more screens were IPS instead of TN, and from the GT72 review posted those temps are ahhh-mazing! Upgrade fever. *thumbs up*

 

Introducing the GTX 1080P (Performance Edition), redefining what it means to game at 1080p.

 

And that's exactly what they have done.

Reducing weight and changes to the power brick (which is the size of a real brick) do improve practical function. But as I have stated and you too, looks like that ain't happening until Broadwell. And this disappoints because 900M are so efficient they could have brought these changes to the laptop design.

 

Anyone can link me a german reseller/shop which already sells the new GS70?

 

So if the 980m is 75% as powerful as the 980 then what is the percentage with SLI 980ms to one 980?

 

So which new 9-series models still use upgrade-able MXM designs (except Clevo's PxxxSM-A series and Asus's propitiatory joke)?

Also do GTX980M MXM with only 4GB exist or are they all on-board?

 

Gt72 is, msi will be selling upgrade kits even. With more effort the gt60 and gt70 should be ok. Then you have the alienware 17 and 18.

Asus use 4gb on their cards.

 

THX Meaker!

So apart from Clevo SM-A it's just a single MSI system & the old Alienware that are left for real MXM cards?

Did Alienware already announce any of their new models, do they go onboard CPU/GPU, too?

 

Alienware onboard CPU/GPU?! Apocalypse Now.

 

The difference between the 980m and the GTX 980 is more like 45% accounting for the huge desktop clock speed advantage. Plus, according the Techreport, there is a very large discrepancy in ROP rate due to the nerfed GPCs thus indicating even weaker high resolution, MSAA and SSAA than the desktop GTX 970 vs the GTX 980.