GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

Yeah, like this:

Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4960HQ,Alienware 0146Q8

 

Don't worry, notebooks will get the full GM204 in a couple years.

I saw the HQ CPU before, but I can't seriously believe that Alienware would solder its GPU's.

 

Pretty sure MSI GT60 was and is MXM, I think almost every model that used to use MXM still does. Its just the MXM models are slowly being phased out, and all the new thin ones are soldered.

 

New GT60/70 are also using onboard GPU and CPU.

Looks like the GT72 is the only new MXM model.

 

Any ideas on how much it will cost an 970M MXM?

 

@Tplr19: The new thin model are the P650 models. I am not disapointed about the fact that the Gtx980m comes into the PXxxSm model. You forgot that when a new model is released, the status of the old one becomes end of support. I remember, when we (the community) had made a topic because the P150Hm has been discontinued because of his successor the P150em, so the P150Hm don't support the "new Gtx680m and 7970m". It's because a topic was made that some resellers (and notebook guru like svl7, jaybee, prema and others) had worked on this problem, and this result in 680m and 7970m upgrade kit for Hm. Having New models just because of a new gpu is just some marketing tricks. (For exemple :the PXxxSm-a vs the PXxxSm) The new P650 is here to respond to the need of thin laptop. The "old" models don't respond to this need but the PXXXSM models that were designed to cool a 880m will become a great deal to play with the overclocking ability of the 980m. Not having a new model will allow to upgrade an "Old" PXxxSm easily. Last but not least, the PXXXSm model are the last models of this line up that let you change your cpu if you want.

 

Okay, I'm very close to going ahead with an import from xoticpc to Australia at this point. I am pretty much set on a Gigabyte P35Xv3, either the 1080p or the 3k (haven't made up my mind yet). Also waiting on a solid review to see if the keyboard flex issue has been addressed at all.

However, is anyone more informed than me on how effective Gigabyte's global warranty is? I've found this link discussing global warranty, however it's not really conclusive - it just says "Only certain product models that have been offered for Online Product Registration qualify for global warranty coverage". Another page I found said that only 'authorized countries' qualify for Gigabyte's global service.

Is anyone able to confirm/deny whether I would be able to claim global warranty on a P35Xv3 imported from the USA to Australia?

 

In Italy there is not even a shop that sells a notebook with a 970m or 980m

 

What alienware model is that? the 17 inch?
If it's the 14 inch one. I can understand the solder. And would be VERY impressed of the 980M being fit on it.
If it's the 17 inch one. It is indeed a very bad choice for them to solder it. It's not even SLI, so there should be MORE then room for it. unless they announce a new slimline alienware series.

 

I enquired xoticpc the same thing earlier today and they informed me that the stock items are covered under international warranty by Gigabyte. Any upgraded parts would be US warranty though.

 

Finding the notebook with the best keyboard, display, portability, cooling etc trump "low" VRAM on the cards imo. You will be using those features every single day while console ports you like and want to play only happens once in a while.

If you can find two notebooks that is equal in the above, go with the 6/8GB version though.

Oh and by the love of God, go with the GTX 980M of both GTX 970M and GTX 980M is offered on the same notebook. Only 980M does really have the power to run greater resolutions than 1080p on your 1080p display, aka DSR. Im not sure if you seen how stunning the graphics become with DSR but that is def not something you would want to miss

 

cant find any 980m on ebay lol

 

I sincerely hope NVIDIA didn't screw up this series like they did the 880m. Also, fingers crossed prices are cheap

 

I can't find information about HDMI 2.0 , I saw only 1.4а port for the moment.

 

Not true. Clevo tends to carry the same chassis for 2-3 years typically with minor changes, just upgrades the core hardware. This minimizes cost, and also, why change the chassis? Nothing else has changed, heck even Intel's CPU's are the same for the most part. There's nothing new in the tech world except for the Maxwell GPU's really.

 

I don't think they're gonna be cheap, AMD are not offering any competition, so NVidia can charge what they like within reason - the desktop Maxwell cards are 'cheap' because they don't offer huge leaps over the 780 & 780ti and they're leaving some space for the Maxwell range to expand further upwards for desktop (maybe 980ti or something), whereas with notebooks we're seeing a huge bump in performance of 60-80% compared to 880M/780M. Prices we've seen so far are also not cheap.

 

My concern is with cooling. While many of these thinner laptops will probably cool a 970m without much issue, but the 980m may be pushing it It looks like the TGP is actually over 100W even though the TDP is only 85W.

 

I've never heard of TGP before, what's the difference from TDP? Is it something to do with short sustained bursts of allowable current or something?

 

TGP is package TDP (i.e. RAM and other chips/circuits): Maxwell GM204: GTX980M / GTX970M

 

880M and 870M can now be upgraded!!!!!

So unfair as I have a 770M

 

I'm liking the Aorus X3 Plus (if it is refreshed with 970m), but it might be a tad too small as it's only got a 13.9inch screen. Aorus X7 on the other hand has SLI which I don't want to bother with.

Why can't there be an Aorus X5 with a 15 inch screen, with the same build quality as the X3 and X7? Would be amazing. With a 970m, it would be a great buy as a premium product.

 

Anyone heard of this new Clevo? Its a new model on a norwegian site. They usually use the clevo names as model name, so its a Clevo P651S? They also have it with full hd and 4k screen, with very little price difference... Which would be best to go with? Multicom Kunshan P651S 15.6" QFHD 3840x2160, Intel Core i7-4710HQ, 8GB, 240GB SSD + 1TB 7200rpm, GeForce GTX 970M 3GB, Uten operativsystem, 25mm tynn / MULTICOM

 

Gigabyte's new refreshed thin 14" model - P34W v3 - just got officially announced. As expected with GTX 970M, 6GB VRAM, coming in November. Chassis seem to be exactly like P34G v2.

Gigabyte announces P34W gaming laptop - NotebookCheck.net News

Available at XoticPC for pre-order, starting from 1,699 USD:

XOTIC PC | GIGABYTE P34Wv3-CF2

 

G551 with gtx 970m

Plz god... It's simple.
Or better. A lenovo y50 with gtx 970m and IPS screen. It's simple as ...

 

There are already GT60, and GT70 variants with the 970, why wouldn't a 980 fit? What's different?

 

The gt60 is overpriced for me.
I'm poor

 

1500$ is my maximum..

 

I have a Clevo P170SM with a 770M GTX.

Do you guys think it would be better upgrade to a 970M GTX with my current Haswell I7 4700Q M or wait for Broadwell?

 

What's the difference between core i7 mq and core i7 Hq??

 

hq = soldered to motherboard
mq = user upgradable

 

I meant Haswell I7 4700QM if makes any difference, sorry....

 

The powerful is exactly the same?
So, mq is better...

 

Anyone else disappointed with no 4k / UHD laptops for GTX970M / GTX980M launch?

 

Looks like MSI aren't launching the GS60 with 970M 6GB and 1080p screen in the UK anytime soon. We're stuck with the silly 3K screen in a 15 inch laptop and the 3GB version of the 970M.

Overclockers UK Forums - View Single Post - ** NEW NVIDIA 9xx SERIES NOTEBOOKS AVAILABLE TO PRE-ORDER FROM MSI!! **

Any good 15 inch alternatives or should I just grab the 17 inch GS70 with 1080p screen + 970M 3GB?

 

Nope, I think you are out of your mind wanting that resolution on a single card. Even more so with DSR available.

 

Broadwell will not be much of an upgrade and honestly it would be stupid to get an entire new notebook for it.. Your 4700MQ will be plenty for quite a while so I wouldn't worry and would upgrade the GPU from the 770M to 970M..

Well the MQ processors can be replaced so your not stuck with the same one with the soldered HQ... Their essentially the same but HQ puts you at a disadvantage down the road...

If your'e going to get the 17 inch, why not get the Asus G751? You'll get 4GB vRAM for a similar price

 

I prefer the form factor and overall design of the MSI GS series laptops compared to Asus. Trying to keep things light and portable.

 

I have read about the same on internet, thanks for your feedback, very likely I will upgrade my GPU instead.

 

Thanks. But what do those numbers matter to me? I was talking about ingame performance. And the few benchmarks I have seen indicate fps for fps that claim by Nvidia is true. Through synthetic benchmarks they are close. You are even capable of 4K at decent fps.

 

I wouldnt put much weight in the TGP information. Its based on power draw (not heat output) and is the maximum watt the whole MXM card (power circuitry, GM 204 chip, VRAM) consumes. But it doesnt say anything about average power draw (which would be much more interesting) or explains if the card will even touch that limit or if its just there to allow overclocking room. The fact that GTX 680M, GTX 870M, GTX 780M share the same TGP doesnt sit well with me. We know that the actual heat output between those three vary greatly.
Secondly, the Clevo machine you are talking about have a TDP of 85W, not TGP. If that is because it comes with 4GB VRAM instead of 8GB, or if they are binned better, I dont know. But don`t put too much weight on the TGP information, because of the above.

You should rather fear the CPU if you ask me. Those run much hotter than GPUs inside thin notebooks.

 

Still doesnt hide the fact that displays makers give a big F to real gamers who have the hardware to drive 4K displays.
And native 4K/3K whatever looks better than downsampled resolution through DSR.

But atleast we got DSR. Its something (I plan to use a lot)

 

Does anyone know if the Clevo 13.3" W230SS will receive a similar upgrade to the 970M? If the Gigabyte P34g v3 is receiving an upgraded GPU, it seems like the W230SS chassis should be able to handle it, too.

All of the resellers still show the W230SS with 860M, so I'm wondering if Clevo just plans to keep it that way.

 

Hey guys I'm a total noob on the forum so my apologies in advance if this is an irrelevant question. I am torn between getting a sager np9377-s with 980m SLI or the msi gt72 with single 980m. I just thought that since sager is no longer offering a 120hz display, would it be an overkill? I also saw that single 980m handles games pretty well and msi "promised" to have a gpu upgrade kit even for the next generation. The trade-offs are really complicated. What are your thoughts? Which one should I pick? Thanks

ps. just wanted to say thanks to you all and I really appreciate this forum. You guys are the reason I skipped 800 series and waited for the 900 series

 

4K is something I would not want on a 15.6", or even 17.3" for that matter. I like to play my games at a high-as-possible settings. 3K paired with 980M is my personal limit. The allure of such a wonderfully sharp screen is strong (I wear glasses all the time so have no trouble reading small text), my only concern is whether the 980M could really handle games at that resolution with ultra detail & >30fps. At least I know that even a 1080p screen would bring about an improvement in PPI on the smaller screen vs my Clevo, if I'm forced to go for that.

Of course, this is all hypothetical talk, because until I can confirm the P35X v3 doesn't thermally throttle or reach stupidly high temps in games I am stuck in limbo. If it does throttle then MSI GT72 it will be.

 

My only concern is since the GPU is so new. And yet they're able to slap it onto the old model (np8278s); would there be any problems in the future like: motherboard frying, GPU working not properly, and basically just hardware incompatibility. Because I know they made that series for the gtx 8xxm GPU not 9mmx
Everyone feel free to give me some insight in this situation. Prior, I was dead set on the g751 because I didn't really have a good experience with sager initially. But asus and their vram kinda made me think twice, since I want to keep this laptop for the next 5+ yrs..

 

Does anyone know what IPS display is on the Asus G751JY? I`ve seen many sites stating it have IPS and its the first time we will see 17.3" with that I think

 

They stopped selling it the screen but you can buy it off ebay for $90. It will work since its the same model. But SLI is kinda future proof ir if you want to game on higher res. Plus I think GT72 is hq which is very not future proof but pls correct me if I am wrong.

What makes you think the motherboard and other hardware are new on the G751? Or the newer models of MSI? You don't need to change the motherboard for a gpu upgrade. And why would a cooler running 980m fry a motherboard better than the hotter 880m? Sager updated the motherboard bios to run 980m. These other laptop manufacturers decided to change the chassis to get more attention. The G750 already ran the 880m oc at less than 65-70 celcius. If the the g751 runs it cooler it is because of the gpu. The only design change that would be a justified engineering change to improve efficiency in certain aspect to the hardware would be a new cpu. Broadwell isn't coming till next year. What asus did though was make the laptop lighter beause it probably needed less cooling.

 

I personally think the MSI GS70 stealth is one of the sexiest machines on the market right now. However, the version with the 870m failed miserably with overheating as you can see.

MSI GS70-2PEi71611 Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

Now the new 970m only has 20w less TGP (80 instead of 100). It's pretty clear to me, and the xotic PC reviews that the new gs70 will still be hitting temps of 90c on both CPU and GPU. I don't mind heat, but can this machine operate for 3-4 years at 90c without issues? Also, 90c was a max CPU temp during a stress test, while the 970m with 3gb stayed at 85c. Would the 6gb version of 970m reach 90c as well you think? Thanks everyone.

 

I agree with what you are saying here Cakefish. I've been using a 10.1in 1080P screen for a while now.
When gaming, I'd probably just scale back to 1080P to ensure silky smooth frame rate, but for work 4k is what I've been waiting for.

I just want the 4k influx to get to the tipping point of where 1080P was for the last few years.

The change of guard is immanent: Computex: Intel and Samsung team up to slash the price of 4K panels - The Inquirer

From the article:

4k should just hurry up and become the default panel.

Windows 10 having 4 way snapping will just make 4k all the more useful.

Being able to view big excel spreadsheets, schedules and A1 scale drawings without having to zoom is what I am really wanting to be able to do on my laptop.

 

It didn't hit 90 on either of them with 970m , was 83 max gpu +no throttle and various 80-85 between cpu cores
Plus See gentech full review too
CPU MAX OUT AT 80~ and GPU max out at 75 which is superior than the previous gs series also the previous 870m did throttle the 970m did not, so a throttled GPU temp =/= a gpu going full power