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    GTX 900M series officially announced by NVIDIA!!!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cakefish, Oct 7, 2014.

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    Mostly just play league and Civ V ... thought once I get my hands on a maxwell... probably a gtx 970m I'll be going for some FPS goodness. Now just debating which laptop I want.. I would really want a slim design but between the GS60, P35wv3, and even the Clevo P651 there seems to be a major flaw. If olny they could take the strengths of each and combine it :D
     
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    Lol yeah that should make for a nice improvement, though yours is already about 4-5 times the speed of mine hehe. I am probably going to get a 980m for 20-30 times the speed of my present laptop :eek:

    Oh and on the playing front you can actually play some pretty decent games even on terrible old GPUs. I play Skyrim ( HEAVILY modded) on med-high ( MASSIVELY CUSTOM) settings and get pretty acceptable FPS. In full native 768p resolution even. Of course I have no fog effects, or shadows.
     
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    I'm about to upgrade from a 9700GTS to a 970m. Just cutting down a 0. :)
    Nonetheless I'm more excited than ever.
     
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    I know! Believe me, I know! It's only food and drink and possibly some other 'essential' items excluded from the omnipresent VAT. Eh, I miss the days of 15% VAT - hot damn, those were the good ol' days, eh?

    Everything becomes a 'piece of junk' with time! By 2020 we'll all be saying; Bah! 980M? What a joke! We now have GPUs ten times that power efficient!
     
  5. D2 Ultima

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    I have him beat; I went from a 280M with 60Hz and two Maxxtor 500GB HDDs to SLI 780Ms with 120Hz and two SSDs + 1TB HDD.

    This brother however I do not have beat, this man is a hero, he fought the good fight, he won the war, he waited the whole generations gaps and is coming out a winner, he will be crowned king of the saving money, he is no noob
     
  6. Salrandin1

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    Well, I'm glad I'm not alone. I've had a few chuckles seeing people with 780ms or even 880ms desparate to upgrade. (Though I have nothing against that)
     
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    I have you all beat! ;) My first laptop was a- a- a- a... a-*shudder* Intel GMA 4500M. How did I survive back then? How?! I mean; Half Life 2 at 15fps!!!
     
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    I want to upgrade from a full gk104 to a full gm204 , I don't want to settle with the cut down gm204
     
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    I'd rather go outside.
     
  10. Cakefish

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    I think nowadays I'd rather leave planet Earth!
     
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    The question is what did you upgrade to? =D. I went from a Pentium 4 @ 2.0GHz with 256MB RD RAM (yes, RD; not SD or DDR) and some GeForce GPU whose name I never knew (we threw it out so I can't check anymore). All I remember is the GPU had 32MB of vRAM.

    The next was a HP Pavilion DV-6000 something. It had a core 2 duo 1.73GHz CPU with intel XMA 3100 and 3GB DDR2 667MHz RAM.

    Next was a Clevo D900F with i7-950, 6GB DDR3 1066MHz RAM and a 280M 1GB. The next system is in my sig XD.
     
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    I'm coming from a GT 640M, not AS bad, but still old.
     
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    I'm fairly new to the laptop party - my first was the Dell XPS Gen 2 with the Geforce 6800 Go Ultra. That felt really fast... at the time :)

    My first PC though had a Diamond Monster 3Dfx card - I was wowed with the graphics way back then - when I thought 64mb of ram would last me for a looooonnnng time :)
     
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    Hey if we are talking first laptops I had an Acer Aspire with AMD X1600. It was pretty baller for the time.
     
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    My old 9550 weeps.
     
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    In terms of GPU, it went as thus: Intel 4500M > ATI 5650 > NVIDIA GTX 650M > NVIDIA GTX 780M > (and hopefully very soon the GTX 980M!)
     
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    3D mark 03 - Standard 1024x768
    GMA 4500m = 1650.5
    Radeon HD 6520G = 11897
    9700m GTS = 22836

    3DMark11 P GPU
    Radeon HD 6520G =492
    GTX 980m = 11817

    lol hard to even find benchmarks to compare these ancient GPUs.
     
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    Then you'll have to wait 2 years.
     
  19. Killerinstinct

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    But isn't pascal suppose to be released in 2 years ? Most likely will have to wait 1 year :) hopefully
     
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    My first laptop gaming system was a Sager NP9170 with an i7-3630qm and a 7970m back in December 2011. Framerates were divine when the 7970m started up with games, but a combination of keyboard flex/ constant missed keystrokes and driver issues caused me to up-downgrade to an Asus G75VX, which I'll be replacing in a month or two for something with a 980m. :)
     
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    Based on nvidia's past trends, I'm assuming they will release slightly clocked up versions of cards from the same architecture. As shown in the past from card such as the 680m, 780m and 880m which were all from kepler.
     
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    The 680m to 780m was an increase core count as well , but you are right about a increase clock from 780m to 880m
     
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    Nvidia's roadmap is unreliable. Even Intel, who has the most advanced fabs in the world and industry-leading manufacturing process and R&D, has had trouble sticking to its roadmap the last few years. Pascal will be delayed, mark my words.

    Nvidia will not release a neutered 1536-core GM204 this year and immediately follow it up with the full 2048-core part. They will milk Maxwell just like they milked Kepler GK104. 1664 cores next year, 2048 cores the year after that.
     
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    I believe I'm just as overdue (if not even more) with my Radeon HD 6470M. Going from this piece of *Insert vulgar word here* to a new 970M will be a dream.

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    Actually sounds like reasonable deduction. Well here comes a 2 year wait then :( hopefully amd will get off their butts for this round of mobile launches and do something about this.

    I might consider the gs30 with a gtx 980 or a full desktop now (-_-).
     
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    The only thing that can accelerate it is competition from AMD, but they're at the mercy of their fabs just like Nvidia is.
     
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    I disagree, I strongly believe the GTX 1080M will have the full GM204 next year, come the summer. It'll happen. Pascal? Realistically, Q2/Q3 2016. Yep, that's my predictions!
     
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    Oh BTW everyone, I'll try my best to update the first post in the oncoming weeks with the latest news. I've very recently started a postgraduate masters degree in marine biology, so it may be difficult to do daily updates, but I'll try and keep it as regular as possible! :)
     
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    I can't make up my mind on either the GS60, GS70 970m 6GB or wait for the Aorus X7Pro.
     
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    I might be sold if GS70 gets an IPS screen but those thermals though...
     
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    Maybe this is a stupid thing to ask, but...can you replace GPUs in Laptops?
    I have a Skyfire III 17" from PCSpecialist (Which I believe is based on the MSI GT70 2OD model) with a 780M.

    I was under the impression they were "soldered", hence making it very difficult if not impossible to replace, but I saw this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVdxBnGMXGQ

    Anyone have any idea? May be interested upgrading to a 980M if possible.
     
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    You can not get 3D working on the 120hz display without having a built in emitter. An external emitter will not work, the driver needs to see it connected to the motherboard. The only thing that a 120hz screen on a laptop with no emitter gets you is 120hz which is more than enough reason to get one.
    That machine would be much more interesting if it had 1GB quad SSD storage. MSI is just gouging...


    As for me, I'm starting to wonder if it's even worth upgrading to the new cards. With how cut down the cards are, I don't know... And with nVidia charging more for them, who knows what kind of an exchange offer Sager will do... Guess I'll have to wait and see.

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    what thermals did you see? I believe the GenTechPC one was saying 80s for CPU & 85's for GPU. GS60 GPU was nice in the 75's.
     
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    Up to you, but you already seem to have a rather top of the line machine, I'm of the opinion of if you are happy with your present gaming experience, then wait. There could easily be full g204 ?990m? and Skylake CPU in another 10-20 months.

    On the other hand if you have below a 680m in power it starts to become a pretty huge upgrade, and if you have a dead laptop, or need a new one then this is definitely not looking to be a bad time for getting one.
     
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    I have a powerful machine but the 880M cards themselves are the problem. They're hot and they cause stutter like crazy. The other day I saw the slave card shoot down to 801MHz from 954MHz because of the power limit and it caused Sleeping Dogs to stutter and I crashed into a wall.

    I'll wait and see what Sager is willing to do but I'm not happy with nVidia right now.

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    My real debate right now is:
    1: Get a decent ~$1500 range laptop to use till both Pascal and Skylake are out, then get new one.
    or
    2: Get a top of the line ~$3000 laptop that should be able to handle things like 3 external monitors or Oculus rift etc... and use it for another 4-6 years.

    If they hadn't cut out the 120hz displays I would near certainly be looking harder at the Clevo 980m SLIs for option 2, but without those it seems rather overkill. And on the same concept no UHD screens for 17" either yet.
     
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    Let's see.... I went from.... first official laptop: Vaio FX202 AMD Duron 800mhz, 128MB DDR RAM, 8MB ATI RAGE -----> eMachines M6805 AMD Athlon 64 FX single core, 512MB RAM, 64MB Mobility Radeon 9600------> Acer Travelmate 4002 AMD Turion 64, 1.5GB RAM, ATi Mobility X700, -----> Asus M50 with P8600 Core 2 Duo, nVidia 9500M GS, 4GB RAM -----> Asus G50 with P8600, 4GB RAM, nvidia 9800m GS ----> Asus G51VX Core 2 Quad, 4GB RAM, GTX 260m (This one died upon arrival, so I upgraded to the next one) ----> Asus G51J Core i7 720qm, 4GB RAM, GTX260m ---> MSI GX660R Core i7 740qm, 6GB RAM, HD5870m ---> GT70 barebone Core i7 3610qm, 8GB RAM, GTX 680m ---> MSI GT60-2OD Core i7 4700mq, 16GB RAM, GTX 780m ----> ???!!?!?!?!?

    Notable laptops at the moment that did make a huge impact on me: eMachines M6805 with its new gen Athlon FX 64 that stomped pentium 4 and had one of the first mobility 9600 that stomped the laugheable FX5000 series from nvidia. The Asus G50 with GTS 9800m, this offered massive gaming performance on a budget and made me a happy camper :D ----> MSI GX660R, I never expected gaming performance difference to be like this, as I though initially that HD5870m was close to GTX260m. Awesome laptop all in all.

    And finally my GT60 current. I just love this laptop to death. 0 issues in general, excellent performance and after a year+ of use, it remains impeccable.

    So now I am just eyeing at the new MSI's with 980m.... GT72 is eyeing me so fancy.

    Sorry for the long post! And yeah, I remember each and every single laptop I have owned :D
     
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    Yeah keeping this machine would be ideal for me since it has that 120hz screen on it... I'll just wait. It's all I can do. If Sager will do a free swap to 970M SLI, I'd take that even. As it is right now, my machine doesn't get much use because the video cards give me so many problems so it's a 5k paperweight...

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    I am sorry to hear that bud.
    My SLI GTX 870M never goes above 75 degree (slave) even after hours of gaming.
    This is at gaming mode with 50% fan speed.
    100% fan speed with 15 degree C airconditioner is way cooler but I will freeZe with those temp.
    But this time, it seems like the SLI gtx 980M has equal power draw compared to SLI GTX 870M if not less. If I were you, i would try my best to eliminate that 5K paperweight before it becomes unchangeable. Hope you can RMA with SLI GTX 980M
     
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    Im not upgrading. 880m gives me enough performance for mobile for the time being.

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    Jesus 5k. Yikes.
     
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    I regret getting the SLI machine... Its SLI that has the most issues.
    Yeah... I figured since I'm disabled and won't likely have the money again any time soon for a new machine that I would go all out with the specs... It came out of my disability back pay. To say that I'm disappointed is an understatement.

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    Imho the "generation of 780M" is the best one to buy.
    It the traits of maxwell is same as how kepler was
    Getting less core clock is always better than getting less number of shader coz you can overclock it to its max potential later and get the same or almost equal to a maxed overclock "gtx 880m generation rebrand"
     
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    Very true I think a lot of the time its more trouble than its worth. My next machine may be single GPU.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Wow! And you have a nice clevo! Kudos.
    Relax... The 980m has good benchmarks from the little I have seen and allows decent 4K. The people who want a full gm204 or w/e sound silly. What are the benefits? More performance obviously but the performance boost right now is so good it can run everything and a lot of things in 4k. The performance boost we got is amazing. Its not like these new gpus are struggling to run games we have now...
     
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    Yeah, it is because when you get low core clocks, you KNOW they will release a rebrand with the higher clocks.
     
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    Maybe this is a stupid thing to ask, but...can you replace GPUs in Laptops?
    I have a Skyfire III 17" from PCSpecialist (Which I believe is based on the MSI GT70 2OD model) with a 780M.

    I was under the impression they were "soldered", hence making it very difficult if not impossible to replace, but I saw this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVdxBnGMXGQ

    Anyone have any idea? May be interested upgrading to a 980M if possible.
     
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    I feel for you man. I've taken the approach of not getting the most decked out builds so with new technology always around the corner I would be more free to upgrade. Plus my friends have told me of many laptop volcanoes when they go super hard on the gpu.
     
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    The thing is the 980m is not even cut down to a 970. It is lower so a full gm204 will have a significant improvement over then current 980M , and it should be a bit faster than a 970.
     
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