GTX 980M / 970M Maxwell (Un)official news

As much as I want to get the 980m at launch, I am becoming increasingly undecided if I should wait for Broadwell too, to go with it.

Haswell processors generate too much heat. If Broadwell is coming out in January (or thereabouts), wouldn't it make a lot more sense to wait just another 2-3 months to properly solve thermal issues? At that point, a cool 980m/970m Maxwell can be paired with a cool running Broadwell processor. You'd probably never need to worry about temps again at stock, in most laptops. I just think grabbing a Maxwell 980m/970m at launch but retaining a very hot Haswell processor just doesn't really fix the entire problem and throttling would probably still be present in thin laptops at least on the CPU side of things.

 

Skylake is launching at the end of next year. If you're going to wait, wait for that.

 

Broadwell H series CPUs aren't anticipated to ship in notebooks until the May/June from everything I have read. I doubt you are looking for a U/Y series processor, given the thread you are posting in.

5th Generation Broadwell 14nm family comes in three lines

You will be waiting for a long time, and if you are waiting that long J.Dre is right - might as well wait for Skylake.

 

Broadwell advantage is mostly the igpu, 5% better cpu only
Gaming Laptops have no problems cooling the quad cpu, even apple has them, its the kepler GPU that is causing the issues and stealing the fans cooling power, when you get a maxwell GPU the cpu never throttles as shown with laptops that has 860m maxwell

When you have 2 fans and GPU is nearly 90C with fans at nearly full load and still throttling you can only imagine there is not much power left/remaining to actually cool the cpu, 860m runs and peak at mid 60C in my gigabyte so all the fans are really trying to do is cooling the cpu, since the gpu does not need much cooling

 

Heating is not too bad these days. If you get a decent sized laptop then cooling should be good. If you get a slim then you should see some decent temp drop from repasting and undervolting cpu/gpu. And if you get the G751 when it comes out you will get amazing temps that you will never have to worry about.

 

You're talking about in mixed-cooling solutions. Things like my P370SM3 and the Alienware 18 have haswell getting extremely hot too; hotter than Ivy Bridge counterparts. Haswell in itself is indeed very hot.

 

Seconded. Bad author (imo) and despicable philosophy/worldview.

 

Individualism, freedom, productivity, happiness, independence. Sorry you are so aversive to these virtues.

 

I was obviously referring to her strong promotion of selfishness and laissez-faire capitalism.

 

This is not the place to discuss this but just for the sake of ending it I will correct you, even though I assume you have read enough of her to understand her and make a conscious decision and learned criticism. By selfishness she says its not in your interest to steal, defraud, pillage because it does not produce happiness and eventually you will be caught which is not in your interest but self-destructive. She says you should help people but not as a moral duty. She even goes as far to say it is immoral to not help someone in front of you if it is no danger to you. But of course you read her book: "The Virtue of Selfishness" because it says that in there in many places. As far as Laissez-fair capitalism she takes the stance of the french republicans: "The rights of one citizen end where the rights of another begin." She is not a libertarian and has said this many many times; a very strong believer in government. But you knew all this. So let's let it be and get back to the thread.

 

I have indeed read her and others on her, and I would argue that you are glossing over many of the more controversial aspects of her writings with regards to both selfishness and laissez-faire capitalism, notably (as per the latter) her stance with respect to the limited intervention of the state in economic matters. But yes, this is completely off-topic, so let's leave it at that.

In other news, other French websites have updated their catalogues with 970M/980M-equipped laptops:

Asus ROG G751 JT-T7016H - 1499 € : http://www.fnac.com/PC-Portable-Asu...-3/a7648204/w-4?ectrans=1&Origin=zanox2064107
Asus ROG G751 JY-T7032H - 1999 € : http://www.fnac.com/PC-Portable-Asu...-3/a7648205/w-4?ectrans=1&Origin=zanox2064107

MSI GT72 2QD(Dom)262FR I7-4710HQ/17.3/16G/1T+128SSD/GTX970M/8.1/1AN - MisterOops
MSI GT72 2QE(Dom-P)259FR I7-4710HQ/17.3/16G/1T+128SSD/GTX980M/8.1/1A - MisterOops
MSI GT72 2QE(DomP)258FR I7-4710HQ/17.3/32G/1T+256SSD/GTX980M/8.1/1AN - MisterOops
MSI GT72 2QE(Dominator-Pro)253FR I7-4980HQ/17.3/32G/1T/GTX980M/W8.1* - MisterOops

(thanks to rom-16 on the hardware.fr forums )

I will probably direct myself towards buying an MSI GT72 similar to this one: http://www.misteroops.com/systemes/...o-259fr-po-msi-gt722qe-259-4719072368586.html

Would 16 Gb of RAM be more than enough to run games comfortably on that one for a while?

 

Yeah the prices are looking good. Wow $3,700 usd for the high end MSI laptop? I think you raid 0 msata and sata drives so that 4 way raid 0 isn't that impressive. Does the GT72 use trimm?

 

16Gb should be plenty, right now almost nothing uses more than 8gb, but many are getting close to 8gb so 16gp is a good amount.

So on those two models I left in the quote the only differences are:
#1 has : added Killer N1525 Combo (2*2 a/c) + BT4.0 M.2 type
#1 has : 980m GPU
#1 Price : 2,108.00 €
#2 has : added Super Multi (9.5mm) optical drive
#2 has : 970m GPU
#2 Price : 1,821.50 €

so price difference for 970m-980m probably between 260-300 € = $ 330-380

configured 2 present MSI GT72 laptops as near exactly the same as I could but870m-880m
$2113 to $2499, $380 difference in price for the GPU seems it should stay about the same or get smaller.

 

Seems like the usual EU prices for the latest high end Nvidia stuff.

Here's hoping my move to the US has paid off in terms of Laptop savings... Still need to work out how the hell I'm going to sell my current rig though. Ebay I guess? Keep hearing horror stories from sellers though so I'm not 100% positive that's the way to go.

 

There is no way a GTX 980M is going to be less than $400, lol. Maybe as an upgrade on a manufacturers website over a 970M, sure. But as a card itself, no way. That is something I will not believe until I literally see it.

 

I did clearly say difference in price from 970m to 980m, and yeah no chance it will be that cheap.

 

thread's quiet so I scanned today's benchmarks for anything new...not much to report but at least it's something to stare at

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ID	Bench Date	GPU		Score	Core/Memory	Driver		CPU		Mobo
[url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2855287]2855287[/url]	09/29/2014	GTX 970M (1x)	7279	924/1,253	9.18.13.4400	i7 4702HQ	Notebook P650SE
[url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2855442]2855442[/url]	09/29/2014	GTX 970M (1x)	7349	924/1,253	9.18.13.4400	i7 4702HQ	Notebook P650SE
[url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2855283]2855283[/url]	09/29/2014	GTX 970M (1x)	7421	924/1,253	9.18.13.4400	i7-4810MQ	Notebook P17SM-A
[url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2853799]2853799[/url]	09/29/2014	GTX 980M (1x)	9664	1,038/1,253	9.18.13.4400	i7-4940MX	Notebook P17SM-A

 

So what graphics card will the ASUS ROG G751 JT-T7016H feature?

 

Looks like a GTX 970M. Of course nothing confirmed until the laptop is actually released, but if the leaks are anything to go by, this seems to be it.

 

Ok :/
Its kinda heavy any other alternatives?

 

MSI GT72 is bulkier, there's a 15.4" Asus that might get the GTX 980m, and the Gigabyte Auros will have GTX 970m SLI (with good driver should be decently faster than a singly GTX 980m).

 

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This is a rather comprehensive overview of nearly every high end gaming laptop on the market right now. There will be many other names out there for instance CyberPowerPC, Origin, Sager, Shenker, etc... all make customized versions based on mainly Clevo (sometimes MSI or another) bare bones systems, I only listed a single model for these based on the most detailed review I found. Also Most of these you can configure some of the hardware, just because one has a poorly rated screen or WiFi does not mean it is not right for you, if you like the rest check on a sellers web page to see if it has alternate hardware options.

I would note these are my takes on the laptops after looking through many reviews, they may not be accurate, if you personally have one of these laptops and wish me to make corrections tell me where I am wrong and why please.

This list is only intended to give a general overview you should go on to look at actual reviews, or the owners lounge forums or such on ones that interest you.
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1 inch = 25.4mm | 1 foot = 305mm | 1 cubic foot = 28317cm^3
Celcius to Fahrenheit | 50c = 122f | 60c = 140f | 70c = 158f

So far it appears ALL new laptops are coming with the soldered CPUs (i7-4xxxHQ), this is a step backwards in almost every way, but it may be shoved down our throats. Since it is across every manufacturer so far this is likely caused by Intel, I have not yet seen AMD options so they may still have socketed options, but they tend not to be viable options for gaming laptops anyway.

Be careful buying SLI versions they sometimes list combined GPU ram so 2x980m 4GB could be listed as "980m SLI 4gb", or "980m SLI 8GB" however they will only function as though they had the single cards RAM since the information is duplicated for each card.

Check the laptop you are looking at for the GPU's vRAM, 3-4GB will be just fine for the vast majority of already released games, however some are already pushing 4GB and it appears many of the next couple years titles will be 4-6GB. This is probably mainly due to bad optimization, and fan mods may fix this for some, but think about the games you want it to play before buying a 970m 3GB, or 980m 4GB, the 6/8GB models are much more future proof.

970m Maxwell, 28nm
Cores = 1280 @ 954mhz
vRAM = 3gb or 6gb GDDR5
Memory bus = 192b @ 5012mhz
DirectX = DirectX 11.2, Shader 5.0
Features = Battery Boost, GameStream, ShadowPlay, GPU Boost 2.0, Optimus, PhysX, CUDA, SLI, GeForce Experience

980m Maxwell, 28nm
Cores = 1664 @ 1033mhz (1038mhz?)
vRAM = 4gb or 8gb GDDR5
Memory bus = 256b @ 5012mhz
DirectX = DirectX 11.2, Shader 5.0
Features = Battery Boost, GameStream, ShadowPlay, GPU Boost 2.0, Optimus, PhysX, CUDA, SLI, GeForce Experience

Benchmarks -
3Dmark11 - graphics scores only
Entry Preset - 980m = 20952 | 970m = 16216 | 880m = 13556 | 870m = 11978
Performance Preset - 980m = 12423 | 970m = 10023 | 880m = 8525 | 870 = 7196
Performance Preset - 980m SLI = ? | 970m SLI = 19741 | 880m SLI = 15823
Extreme Preset - 980m = 3828 | 970m = 2955 | 880m = 2669 | 870 = 2157
3Dmark 2013 - graphics scores only
Cloud Gate - 980m = 66972 | 970m = 51202 | 880m = 38427 | 870 = 31512
FireStrike - 980m = 9646 | 970m = 7445 | 880m = 6147 | 870 = 4738
FireStrike - 980m SLI = 18570 | 970m SLI = ? | 880m SLI = 11817
Ice Storm - 980m = 331356 | 970m = 288529 | 880m = 228668 | 870 = 193147

(Dis)Advantages an SLI system?
SLI guide by D2 Ultima

How does vRAM work?
Video RAM info guide by D2 Ultima
(note until recently 4GB vRAM seemed like plenty, but leaks on multiple near future games are pushing 6GB for ultra settings)

Format Description

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Image of laptop
Links to reviews
Thickness x Width x Depth (Weight + Power Supply Weight) {Approx Volume, just multiplied}
Case : build quality (materials / comments)
Ports : list of ports
Wireless : connection quality (wireless adapter)
Keyboard : quality of keyboard (keyboard features)
Touchpad : quality of touchpad (touchpad features)
Display : quality of display (display features)
CPU : CPU included in review laptop (other CPU info)
GPU : GPU included in review laptop (other GPU info)
Storage : HDD/SSD in reviewed laptop (possible storage options
Noise : fan/HDD noise (wifi - light work/browsing) to (gaming - um while gaming)
Temperature : temperatures on exterior of case during extended gaming (CPU/GPU temperatures)
Battery : battery life (wifi - light work/browsing) to (gaming - um while gaming)
Other : other things I note like existence of Optical drive

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NEW laptop | Existing laptop | Likely to be Discontinued

11"-14"

Razer Blade 14 - (can't get great Data, but if it gets 970m it will probably run significantly cooler and quieter than with the 870m. If it gets 980m it will likely be about the same as present.)

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http://forum.notebookreview.com/razer/752450-side-side-comparison-razer-blade-2014-msi-ghost-pro-gs60-non-3k.html
19 x 345 x 235 (2kg + 0.3kg Supply) {1378cm^3}
Case : Very Good - but (Aluminum, Magnesium, and steel- surface collects Finger Prints)
Ports : HDMI, 3xUSB 3.0
Wireless : Good (Killer Wireless-N 1202)
Keyboard : Good (back light, NO number pad)
Touchpad : Good (Large, Seperate Buttons)
Display : 14" Great-but (3200x1800, IPS, Glossy, touch-screen, has too high resolution issues)
CPU : i7-4702HQ (plenty)
GPU : 870m Kepler (970m will likely be lower TDP, 980m will likely be about equal)
Storage : 256gb SSD(1 x mSATA 3.0)
Noise : ?dB (wifi) to ?dB (gaming) {can't find good data, way people talk about it sounds like it is a medium noise level for a gaming laptop}
Temperature : expect OVER 56 Celsius on bottom, 50 on top when gaming {CPU 90-98c, GPU 85c in heavy gaming} (TEMPS are less exact due to lack of detailed sources - there also is a no touch area on top that is right near the screen this gets even a little hotter than the bottom)
Battery : 320 mins (wifi) or ? (gaming)
Other : Tiny power Supply, 8gb RAM non-upgradeable

Gigabyte P34G v2 (pretty good right now, but970m/980m might make it a lot hotter check reviews)

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http://forum.notebookreview.com/gigabyte/755681-quick-review-p34g-v2-p34gv2.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Gigabyte-P34G-v2-Notebook-Review.120354.0.html
21 x 340 x 239 (1.8kg + 0.5kg Supply) {1707cm^3}
Case : Uncertain (aluminum w/ plastic bottom)
Ports : HDMI, VGA, 2xUSB 3.0, 2xUSB 2.0, SD card, Ethernet
Wireless : good (Intel's Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260)
Keyboard : medium (back light, NO num-pad)
Touchpad : medium (good, but tiny, and seperate click bar)
Display : Good (IPS, 1080p, matte)
CPU : i7-4700hq (plenty)
GPU : 860m Maxwell (970m/980m would be far higher TDP)
Storage : 1x ?HDD + 1xSSD 128gb Lite-On LMT-128M6M
Noise : medium-poor - 29-38dB (Wifi) to 45-50dB (gaming)
Temperature : Medium - expect up to 58 Celsius on bottom, 48 on top
Battery : Good - 270 mins (wifi) or 120 (gaming)

Clevo W230SS (Schenker XMG P304) - (CPU and GPU get worrisomely hot under heavy load, changing the 45w TDP 860m for a ?60w+? 970m would make this an even larger issue. If they move to a 970m I would avoid this laptop until reviews come out unless they change the cooling system.)

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http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/eurocom-m4-review/
32 x 330 x 227 (2kg + 0.5kg Supply) {2397cm^3}
Case : medium-good (plastic, rubberized display back)
Ports : HDMI, VGA, 3xUSB 3.0, 1xUSB 2.0, Ethernet, card reader (unfortunately ports are all near front on the sides)
Wireless : uncertain (Intel dual-band Wireless-AC 7260)
Keyboard : good (back light, NO number pad)
Touchpad : poor (small, seperate low quality buttons)
Display : 13" medium (3200x1800, IPS, Glossy, low color space, too high resolutionproblems)
CPU : i7-4810mq (can have other i7-4xxx MQ/MX CPUs)
GPU : 860m Maxwell (970m would be noticeably higher TDP)
Storage : 1TB 7200rpm HDD + 240GB Crucial CT240M500SSD3 (2.5" + 2mSATA 2.0)
Noise : 29-34dB (wifi) to 49-54dB (gaming)
Temperature : expect up to 50 Celsius on bottom, 48 on top (CPU can hit 100c, GPU 88c)
Battery : 300 mins (wifi) or 130 (gaming)

15.6"

Asus gx500 - Not yet released, info so far

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19 x 378 x 255 (2.2kg + ?kg Supply) {0cm^3}
Case : Good (Aluminum)
Ports : HDMI, mini Display Port, 3xUSB 3.0, card reader?
Wireless : ()
Keyboard : (back light, No number pad)
Touchpad : (Large, Clickpad)
Display : 15.6" Great - but 4K (3820x2160, IPS, Glossy, 100% aRGB, high resolution issues)
CPU : i7-4???HQ ()
GPU : 860m Maxwell (no clue yet if it will get 970m)
Storage : 2x128gb SSD (2xM.2 PCIe SSD)
Noise : ?dB (wifi) to ?dB (gaming)
Temperature : expect up to ? Celsius on bottom, ? on top
Battery : 96wh

MSI GS60 Ghost Pro 3k - becomes MSI GS60 Ghost Pro 2QE - gets 970m 3GB, i7-4710HQ
(970m should be far lower heat than the 870m; however this was as extraordinarily hot laptop it may still be very hot, everything else is fairly nice on it though so watch for reviews.)

Spoiler

http://forum.notebookreview.com/razer/752450-side-side-comparison-razer-blade-2014-msi-ghost-pro-gs60-non-3k.html
20 x 390 x 266 (2kg + 0.7kg Supply) {2075cm^3}
Case : good (aluminum)
Ports : HDMI, Display Port, 3xUSB 3.0, LAN, SD card
Wireless : Good (Intel Wireless-AC 7260)
Keyboard : Medium+ (back light, cramped number pad)
Touchpad : good (Large clickpad)
Display : Good (IPS, 3k {1620p}, glossy, can get 1080p panel instead)
CPU : i7-4700HQ (plenty)
GPU : 870m Kepler (980m should be equal or lower TDP)
Storage : 1TB HDD + 2x 128gb SSD Kingston
Noise : 32-37dB (wifi) to 47-51dB (gaming)
Temperature : Very Bad - expect OVER to 65 Celsius on bottom, 48 on top (possibly as high as 78 Celsius on bottom under extreme load, which can cause serious burns; GPU reaches temperatures ofover 90 Celsius which could reduce its lifespan)
Battery : 250 mins (wifi) or 50 (gaming)

Gigabyte P35W v2 (Hot now, 970m might help, 980m likely still too much unless they upgrade the cooling)

Spoiler

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Gigabyte-P35W-v2-Notebook-Review.121197.0.html
21 x 385 x 270 (2.5kg + 0.7kg Supply) {2183cm^3}
Case : Good (aluminum w/ some plastic on bottom)
Ports : HDMI, DisplayPort, VGA, 2xUSB 3.0, 2xUSB 2.0, SD card, Ethernet
Wireless : good (Intel's dual-band Wireless-AC 7260)
Keyboard : low-medium (surounding keys yield, back light, num-pad)
Touchpad : good (large clickpad)
Display : Good (IPS, 1080p, matte)
CPU : i7-4710hq (plenty)
GPU : 870m Kepler (980m should be equal or lower TDP)
Storage : 1TB HDD, 2xSSD 128gb Lite-On LMT-128M6M
Noise : Bad 30-40dB (Wifi) to 52-54dB (gaming)
Temperature : bad - expect up to 60 Celsius on bottom, 58 on top (CPU throttling/crashes in stress tests)
Battery : Great - 410 mins (wifi) or 120 (gaming)

Lenovo Y50 (Look for improvements to display and check temps/noise before buying, also check for better HDD)

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http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/755175-review-lenovo-y50-i7-4700hq-gtx860m-8gb-ddr3-1tb-wd-hybrid-hdd-intel-7260-a.html
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/756525-lenovo-y50-quick-review.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-IdeaPad-Y50-Notebook-Review.120215.0.html
24 x 387 x 264mm (2.4kg + 0.6kg supply) {2452cm^3}
Case : medium quality metal/plastic
Ports : HDMI, 2xUSB 3.0, USB 2.0, 4in1 card, Ethernet
Wireless : medium (Intel Wireless-AC 3160)
Keyboard : medium (spongy low feedback)
Touchpad : medium (large clickpad poor buttons)
Display : BAD 1080p, or Medium quality 4k
CPU : i7-4710hq (plenty)
GPU : 860m Maxwell (970m might raise heat/noise)
Storage : 5400 HDD (7mm), no additional slots
Noise : Medium 33-36dB (Wifi) to 40-45dB (gaming)
Temperature : poor - max 60 Celsius expect only 50-55 gaming though (unfortunately worst temps are center top right under the keyboard)
Battery : 270 mins (wifi) or 90 (gaming)

Clevo p651sg {sg is 980m, se is 970m} - (new thin model, have not found review yet, listed on polish site this is all I could gather so far)

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25 x 385 x 271 (2.6kg + ?kg Supply) {2609cm^3}
Case : ()
Ports : HDMI, 2 x mini DisplayPort, 4xUSB 3.0, RJ45-LAN, card reader
Wireless : (Intel Dual Wireless-AC 7265 or Killer Gaming Wireless-AC 1505)
Keyboard : (back light, number pad)
Touchpad : ()
Display : ()
CPU : i7-4710hq (plenty)
GPU : 980M 4GB DDR5 (970m is p651se they appear identical otherwise)
Storage : 2x 1TB HDD + 2x 512gb SSD (2x 2.5" + 2x mSATA 2.0)
Noise : 0dB (wifi) to 0dB (gaming)
Temperature : expect up to 0 Celsius on bottom, 0 on top
Battery : 0 mins (wifi) or 0 (gaming) {60wh battery}

MSI GE60 (make sure GPU doesn't overheat)

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http://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GE60-2PEi781B-Notebook-Review.117056.0.html
33 x 383 x 249mm (2.7kg + 0.5kg supply) {3147cm^3}
Case : medium, all metal (loose hinges, display pressure worries, fingerprints)
Ports : HDMI, VGA, 2xUSB 3.0, 2xUSB 2.0, LAN, ??card reader??
Wireless : poor (review was uncertain as to cause, likely should be better)
Keyboard : Good (steel series, backlit)
Touchpad : poor (large but clicking issues, sticky, loud)
Display : Medium-good IPS (1080p, low info, looks fine for non-Artists)
CPU : i7-4700hq (plenty, and would be replaced by better anyway)
GPU : 860m maxwell (970m might raise heat/noise)
Storage : 1tB 5400 rpm HDD, free SSD slot
Noise : Poor 34-36dB (Wifi) to 48-50dB (gaming)
Temperature : expect 45 Celsius on top, 49 Celsius on bottom (GPU gets very hot 90 Celsius)
Battery : 240 mins (wifi) or 150 (DvD) or 60 (gaming)
Other : Has Optical Drive

Gigabyte P25X v2 (hope they improve the case, 980m should make it cooler/quieter and unless they reduce battery make it really long lasting)

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http://www.notebookcheck.net/Gigabyte-P25X-v2-Notebook-Review.125114.0.html
38 x 392 x 263 (2.8kg + 0.7kg supply) {3918cm^3}
Case : Medium - low plastic
Ports : HDMI, VGA, 2xUSB 3.0, eSATA/USB 2.0, RJ45 LAN, card reader
Wireless : medium; Wireless-AC 7260
Keyboard : medium (number pad, back light)
Touchpad : good (small, seperate button bar)
Display : good (IPS, 1080p, matte)
CPU : i7-4810mq (good, minor throttling but still faster than i7-4710)
GPU : GTX 880m (980m should be far cooler so better temps and noise)
Storage : 1TB 7200RPM HDD + 2 x mSATA SSD
Noise : bad 30-39dB (Wifi) {43dB DVD} to 45-54 dB (gaming)
Temperature : medium 43-46 Celsius, possible CPU/GPU throttling issues
Battery : 340 mins (Wifi) or 310 (DVD) or 105 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive

Clevo P150SM (One K56-4N)

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http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo-reviews-owners-lounges/748888-htwingnut-review-sager-np8268-clevo-p150sm.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Clevo-P150SM-One-K56-4N-Barebones-Notebook.113677.0.html
43 x 376 x 256 (3.2kg + 0.8kg Supply) {4139cm^3}
Case : good (plastic w/ rubberized palm rest/display back)
Ports : HDMI, Display Port, Mini Display Port, 2xUSB 3.0, 1xUSB 2.0, 1xeSATA/USB 3.0, Mini FireWire, RJ45-LAN, 9in1 card reader, 7.1 audio
Wireless : medium (Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235)
Keyboard : good (back light, number pad)
Touchpad : medium (medium size, click bar)
Display : 15" medium (TN, 1080p, Matte)
CPU : i7-4700MQ (can use other i7-4xxx MQ/MX CPUs)
GPU : R9-M290X (R9-M290X has a 100w TDP, 980m will likely be slightly lower)
Storage : 500GB Samsung SSD 840 EVO (2.5" + 2xmSATA 2.0)
Noise : 37-40dB (wifi) to 47-54dB (gaming)
Temperature : expect below 35 Celsius on top and bottom (CPU and GPU both remain under 80c)
Battery : 210 mins (wifi) or 120 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive, Fingerprint Reader

Clevo P150SM-A (Sager NP8268)
CPU : i7-4810MQ (can use other i7-4xxx MQ/MX CPUs)
GPU : 880m Kepler (980m will likely be significantly lower)
Temperature : expect below 38 Celsius on top and 50c on bottom (CPU up to 85c and GPU reaches 93c)
Battery : 250 mins (wifi) or 55 (gaming)

Clevo W355SS (Schenker XMG A504) - (860m maxwell at 45w TDP can cause extremely high CPU/GPU temperatures under stress testing, even if 970m ends up as only 60-65w TDP these temperatures may still end up occuring in actual gaming. Unless they change the cooling system I would avoid this laptop till reviews come out.)

Spoiler

http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/eurocom-shark-3-review/
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Clevo-W355SS-Schenker-XMG-A504-Barebones-Notebook.113909.0.html
43 x 374 x 250 (2.8kg + 0.5 Supply) {4021cm^3}
Case : medium-low (plastic, fine except maybe display frame)
Ports : HDMI, VGA, 2xUSB 3.0, 1xUSB 2.0, 1xeSATA/USB 2.0, RJ45-LAN, card reader
Wireless : medium (Centrino Wireless-N 2230)
Keyboard : good (back light, number pad)
Touchpad : medium (medium size, seperate buttons)
Display : medium-low (TN, 1080p, matte, possible screen bleeding, bad vertical viewing angles)
CPU : i7-4700 (can use any i7-4xxx MQ/MX CPU)
GPU : 860m maxwell (maybe available w/ other GPUs not certain but clevos normally are. If a 970m/980m refresh they will be much higher TDP)
Storage : 1.5TB 5400rpm HDD + 240gb Crucial CT240M500SSD1 (2x2.5" + 1 mSATA 2.0)
Noise : 31-35dB (wifi) to 44-48dB (gaming)
Temperature : expect below 45 Celsius on top and bottom (under stress CPU can reach 100c, GPU 88c. Since its a single fan design a higher TDP GPU even just the 970m could be problematic)
Battery : 210 mins (wifi) or 120 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive

Clevo P157SM [Eurocom X3] (specific components vary widely on Clevo models take this as a possible example but only that)

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http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/avadirect-clevo-p157sm-a-review/
45 x 375 x 268 (3.5kg + 1kg Supply) {4523cm^3}
Case : good (Solid, but a featureless plastic brick)
Ports : HDMI, VGA, 2xUSB 3.0, 1xUSB 2.0, 1xeSATA/USB 3.0, RJ45-LAN, card reader
Wireless : unspecified but you would pick your own with Clevo anyway
Keyboard : medium-good (number pad)
Touchpad : medium (seperate keys)
Display : Medium-good (TN, 1080p, Matte, 86% aRGB gamut, might need calibration)
CPU : i7-4930mx (very top-end, you can get any i7-4xxxMQ or MX CPU though)
GPU : 880m Kepler (980m should be far cooler running)
Storage : 1x1TB SSHD, 2xmSATA 2.0, 1xmSATA 3.0 (1x120 GB Crucial CT120M500SSD3 mSATA SSD in this model)
Noise : 33-40dB (wifi) to 40-45dB (gaming) or 57db extreme stress
Temperature : expect up to 45 Celsius on bottom, 40 on top
Battery : 200 mins (wifi) or 60 (gaming)
Other : finger-print reader, optical Drive

MSI GT60 Dominator (if you don't mind the size or noise this should be about the same but faster with the 9xx Maxwell options)

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http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-MSI-GT60-Dominator-Notebook.116067.0.html
55 x 395 x 267 (3.3kg + 0.8kg Supply) {5801cm^3}
Case : good (Aluminum and plastic)
Ports : HDMI, 2xMini Display Port, 3xUSB 3.0, 1xUSB 2.0, 1xeSATA/USB 3.0, RJ45-LAN, card reader, 7.1 audio
Wireless : good (Killer Wireless-N 1202)
Keyboard : good (steel series, back light, number pad)
Touchpad : medium-good (small, click bar)
Display : good (IPS, 3k{1620p}, glossy {1080p alternative available})
CPU : i7-4800mq (very good, can alter to other mq/mx CPUs)
GPU : 870m Kepler [880m option] (980m should be equal or lower TDP)
Storage : 1TB 7200rpm HDD, SSD slot available
Noise : Bad - 32-40dB (wifi) to 44-57dB (gaming)
Temperature : medium - expect up to 40 Celsius on bottom, 35 on top (CPU/GPU can reach 90 Celsius under load)
Battery : 220 mins (wifi) or 70 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive

17.3"

MSI GS70 2PE - becomes MSI GS70 2QE - gets 970m 3GB, i7-4710HQ
(temperatures cause extreme GPU and some CPU throttling, 970m might relieve them partially, still be hot running though, check to see if they fix cooling system before buying, also its only 3GB ram on the GPU this is enough for most games, but some already require more and it is suspected for ultra settings many will begin to require 4-6gb in the near future.)

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http://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GS70-2PEi71611-Notebook-Review.119833.0.html
22 x 419 x 287 (2.7kg + 0.5kg Supply) {2646cm^3}
Case : Medium (Aluminum/Plastic?)
Ports : HDMI, 2x Display Port, 4xUSB 3.0, SD card, Ethernet
Wireless : good (Intel Wireless-AC 7260)
Keyboard : Medium+ (back light, cramped number pad)
Touchpad : good (Large clickpad)
Display : Medium-low (TN, 1080p, bad vertical viewing angles, poor color accuracy calibration may fix)
CPU : i7-4700hq (plenty, but thermal throttling can occur)
GPU : 870m Kepler (Extreme thermal throttling, 970m should be significantly lower TDP)
Storage : 1TB HDD + 1x 128gb SSD Toshiba HG6 THNSNJ128GMCU
Noise : medium-poor 29-36dB (wifi) to 49-51dB (gaming)
Temperature : BAD - expect up to 63 Celsius on bottom, 52 on top (and have CPU/GPU throttling)
Battery : 240 mins (wifi) or 90 (gaming)
Other : unusually bad power cord position at middle of right side

Razer Blade Pro - (really hard to get good info on this machine if someone can point me to GOOD review I will try to update this)

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http://www.pcworld.com/article/2454550/2014-razer-blade-pro-review-only-slightly-better-than-last-years-model.html
2013 model review - http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/razer-blade-pro-review/
22 x 427 x 277 (3kg + 0.4kg Supply) {2603cm^3}
Case : Good (aluminum, ONLY issue is fingerprints)
Ports : HDMI, VGA, 3xUSB 3.0, LAN
Wireless : Good (Intel® Wireless-AC 7260HMW)
Keyboard : Good (back light, NO number pad)
Touchpad : Unique (Switch-blade touch screen with customizable buttons where the numpad would normally be, most reviews both love the concept, and find its software to be somewhat buggy. Its been a while since most of those reviews though so it may just be plain great now, read reviews for details)
Display : uncertain (TN, 1080p, Matte) {medium or good, too little data though}
CPU : i7-4702HQ {razer site shows i7-4700HQ though} (enough, and lower TDP 37w compared to other i7-4xxx models 47w or 57w)
GPU : 860m Maxwell (970m would be far higher TDP, however it might be similar to the previous 765m Kepler)
Storage : 256GB SSD (single mSATA 3.0 can have 128/256/512GB no other options)
Noise : 31-37dB (wifi) to 40-51dB (gaming) {These are from the 2013 model same fans, but different CPU/GPU}
Temperature : expect up to ? Celsius on bottom, ? on top
Battery : ? mins (wifi) or ? (gaming)
Other : Switchblade interface instead of trackpad, Tiny Power Supply

Aorus x7 v2 - {Aorus x7 has a benchmark showing 970m SLI 3GB vRAM, this will bottleneck sone present games, and many future games I strongly recommend avoiding this unless they switch to 6GB vRAM, if you plan to use it for specific games check their requirements first but then it might be fine}
(check for better display, if 970m is around 70-75w TDP its probably still too hot, if 60-65w TDP this is seriously worth considering)

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http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/aorus-x7v2-review-portability-meets-power/
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Aorus-X7-v2-Notebook-Review-Update.122059.0.html
23 x 428 x 305 (3.3kg + 0.8kg Supply) {3003cm^3}
Case : medium-good (mostly aluminum + some plastic)
Ports : HDMI, VGA, Mini Display Port, 3xUSB 3.0, 2xUSB 2.0, Ethernet, Surround Port, Card Reader
Wireless : unknown (Intel Centrino Wireless-AC 7260)
Keyboard : good (backlight, numberpad, special macro keys)
Touchpad : poor (large glossy clickpad)
Display : lower medium (TN, 1080p, Matte, might want to get calibrated)
CPU : i7-4710hq (plenty)
GPU : 2x860m Kepler SLI (970m should be similar or lower TDP)
Storage : 1TB 7200rpm HDD + 3x Lite-on LMT-128M6M 128gb SDD
[Aorus x7 v1 had SLI 2x765m at 60-65w TDP each, 860m kepler is 75w TDP, 970m is expected to be between 60-80w TDP so between the 2 versions we should get a fairly accurate representation of how noise and temperatures could change.]
Noise : Bad; 33-40dB (wifi) to 49-54 (gaming) [v1= 30-32dB (Wifi) or 46-51dB (Gaming)]
Temperature : Bad; up to 64 Celsius on bottom, 55 on top, GPU can hit 89 Celsius [v1= up to 49 Celsius bottom, 46 on top]
Battery : 140 mins (wifi) or 80 (gaming) [v1= 165 mins (Wifi) or 105 (gaming)]

Acer Aspire v17 Nitro (make sure GPU doesn't overheat)

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25.4 x 423 x 293 (3kg + unknown supply){3148cm^3}
Case : good (matte plastic + soft touch NIL)
Ports : HDMI, 2xUSB 3.0, 2xUSB 2.0, Ethernet, SD card
Wireless : good (Atheros AR5BWB222)
Keyboard : medium (loud spacebar)
Touchpad : good (large clickpad)
Display : good (IPS, 1080p, Matte, might want to get calibrated)
CPU : i7-4710hq (plenty)
GPU : 860m maxwell (970m might raise heat/noise)
Storage : 1TB HDD + Kingston 128gb SDD
Noise : Good 30-32dB (wifi) to 38-43 (gaming)
Temperature : up to 55 Celsius keyboard is fine though (GPU up to 85 Celsius, check reviews if they upgrade to 970m+)
Battery : 220 mins (wifi) or 170 (DvD) or 110 (gaming)
Other : Has Optical Drive

Lenovo y70 - not yet reviewed?

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26 x 423 x 291 (3.4kg + 0.6kg Supply) {3200cm^3}
Case : (metal)
Ports : HDMI, 2xUSB 3.0, 1xUSB 2.0, RJ45-LAN, 4in1 card reader
Wireless : (Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 3160)
Keyboard : (back light, number pad)
Touchpad : (Lagre, Clickpad)
Display : 17.3" (1080p, Glossy, Touch)
CPU : i7-4710 (plenty)
GPU : 860m Maxwell
Storage : 1TB 5400rpm SSHD (2.5" + mSATA)
Noise : ?dB (wifi) to ?dB (gaming)
Temperature : expect up to ? Celsius on bottom, 40c on top
Battery : 210 mins (WiFi) 4 Cell 54 Watt Hour Li-Polymer

Asus g771 - (can barely cool an 860m maxwell, unless they modify cooling it will probably throttle horribly on a 970m.)

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36 x 415 x 280 (3.4kg + ?kg Supply) {4183cm^3}
Case : good (aluminum and plastic)
Ports : HDMI, Mini Display Port, 4xUSB 3.0, Ethernet, SD card
Wireless : good (Intel Dual Band 7260AC)
Keyboard : good (back light, cramped number pad)
Touchpad : medium (Large Clickpad)
Display : 17.3" good (IPS, 1080p, matte)
CPU : i7-4710HQ (plenty)
GPU : 860m Maxwell
Storage : HDD + SSD
Noise : 46dB (gaming)
Temperature : mediocre cooling + firmware throttling at 80-85c which it hits in gaming
Battery : 240 mins (wifi) or 100 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive

Clevo P170SM-A (One K73-4N) - (should be similar, but better with 9xx GPU)

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45 x 412 x 276 (3.7kg + 0.9kg Supply) {5117cm^3}
Case : good (brushed aluminum and plastic)
Ports : HDMI, Display Port, Mini Display Port, 2xUSB 3.0, 1xUSB 2.0, 1xeSATA/USB 3.0, mini FireWire, RJ45-LAN, 9in1 card reader
Wireless : good - but no bluetooth (Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300)
Keyboard : good (back light, number pad)
Touchpad : poor (large, seperate buttons)
Display : medium (TN, 1080p, matte, grainy finish)
CPU : i7-4800mq (can use any i7-4xxx MQ/MX CPU)
GPU : 870m (can also get 880m, could get 970m and 980m both should be equal or lower in TDP than the 870m)
Storage : 500gb Samsung 840 EVO (2x2.5" + 2xmSATA 2.0)
Noise : 30-38dB (wifi) to 49-52dB (gaming)
Temperature : good - expect below 40 Celsius on top and bottom (CPU and GPU max in the 80-85c range)
Battery : 210 mins (wifi) or 100 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive, Fingerprint Reader

Alienware 17 (Already good, 980m will just make it better, if you like Alienware you should be very happy, consider a 120hz/3D screen option the 980m may make them worth it.)

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http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/alienware-17-review-2014-edition/
46 x 418 x 288 (4.2kg + 0.8kg Supply) {5538cm^3}
Case : Very good (rubberized aluminum)
Ports : HDMI, Display Port, 4xUSB 3.0, LAN, Card Reader
Wireless : Good (Broadcom 802.11 ac)
Keyboard : Good (back light, number pad)
Touchpad : good (small, seperate buttons)
Display : medium (TN, 1080p, matte {also 3D and 120hz options I think})
CPU : i7-4700mq (plenty, and can probably change to any i7-4xxxMQ or MX CPU)
GPU : 880m (980m should be far cooler so better temps and noise)
Storage : 1TB 5400rpm HDD + mSATA SSD LITEONIT DMT-80
Noise : 30-35dB (wifi) to 44dB (gaming) {51dB stress}
Temperature : Good - expect up to 50 Celsius on bottom, 35 on top
Battery : 360 mins (wifi) or 80 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive

Clevo P177SM-A (Schenker XMG P704) - (880m had minor throttling possible, 980m should not have this problem)

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46 x 414 x 286 (4kg + 0.9kg Supply) {5447cm^3}
Case : medium-poor (plastic / rubberized plastic, display frame may have problems)
Ports : HDMI, Display Port, mini Display Port, 2xUSB 3.0, 1xUSB 2.0, 1xeSATA/USB 3.0, mini firewire, RJ45-LAN, 9in1 card reader, 7.1 audio
Wireless : medium (Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230)
Keyboard : medium-good (back light, number pad)
Touchpad : poor (large, logo lit, seperate buttons)
Display : medium (TN, 1080p, matte, grainy finish)
CPU : i7-4910MQ (can use any i7-4xxx MQ/MX CPU)
GPU : 880m {can throttle un max load} (could get both 970m and 980m, both will have lower TDP)
Storage : 2x1.5TB 5400rpm HDD + 480gb Crucial CT480M500SSD3 (2x2.5" bays, 2xmSATA total)
Noise : 34-37dB (wifi) to 48-52dB (gaming)
Temperature : expect below 40 Celsius on top and bottom (GPU canhit 90c)
Battery : 190 mins (wifi) or 90 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive, fingerprint reader, visual volume display above keyboard that you cannot turn off

MSI GT72 -
MSI GT72 2QD gets 970m 6GB and i7-4710HQ (soldiered may be other options)
MSI GT72 2QE gets 980m 8GB and i7-4710HQ (soldiered may be other options)
(unlikely to be changed at all with 980m since it just came out, fairly nice as is though, unless the display is a problem with you its not terrible but it along with the battery are definitely the laptops main short-comings)

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48 x 428 x 294 (3.8kg + 0.8kg supply) {6040cm^3}
Case : good (plastic + aluminum cover + rubberized palm rest)
Ports : HDMI, 2xMini Display port, 6xUSB 3.0, 7.1 sound, LAN, card reader
Wireless : mediocre (N1525)
Keyboard : medium (steel series, back light, number pad)
Touchpad : good (large, seperate buttons)
Display : lower medium (TN, 1080p, Matte)
CPU : i7-4710mq (plenty)
GPU : 880m kepler (980m should reduce heat/noise)
Storage : 1TB 7200rpm HDD + 3x m.2 mSATA kingston 128gb SDD
Noise : Good 33-34dB (wifi) to 40-45dB (gaming)
Temperature : great; up to 46 Celsius (CPU/GPU higher but not worrisome)
Battery : BAD; 170 mins (wifi) or 150 (DvD) or 80 (gaming) (980m might help this a lot)
Other : Has Optical Drive

Gigabyte P27G v2 [modified Clevo W370SS] - (check if cooling system can handle 970m+ before buying)

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49 x 413 x 278 (3.1kg + 0.5kg Supply) {5626cm^3}
Case : medium (plastic + rubberized lid/palm rest)
Ports : HDMI, VGA, 2xUSB 3.0, 1xUSB 2.0, 1xeSATA/USB 3.0, RJ45-LAN, card reader
Wireless : medium (Realtek RTL8723BE)
Keyboard : medium-good (could be quieter, back light, number pad)
Touchpad : poor (mediumsize, seperate singlebar buttons, bad multi-touch)
Display : medium-good (TN, 1080p, Matte)
CPU : i7-4710mq (plenty)
GPU : 860m maxwell (970m would increase heat/noise)
Storage : 1TB 7200rpm HDD + 3x m.2 mSATA kingston 128gb SDD
Noise : Good 30-33dB (wifi) to 37dB (DVD) to 41-45dB (gaming)
Temperature : great; up to 45 Celsius (GPU not high, but hot enough a 970m might be worrisome)
Battery : Medium; 240 mins (wifi) or 190 (DvD) or 120 (gaming)
Other : Has Optical Drive

Asus g751 - Expected to replace g750 in the Asus lineup

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Uncertain yet as to whether the JT and JY are the same size or different we will have to wait till better info comes out.

Asus g751 JY - 980m version - (not certain if thickness is for the JY or JT version)
18/50 mm x 416 x 318 (3.8kg + ?kg Supply) {0cm^3}
Case : ()
Ports : HDMI, VGA, Thunderbolt, 4xUSB 3.0, RJ45-LAN, card reader
Wireless : ()
Keyboard : (back light, number pad)
Touchpad : (Large, separate buttons)
Display : (1080p, matte)
CPU : i7-4710HQ (i7-4860HQ suspected as well)
GPU : 980m Maxwell 4GB (980m can have a 8gb version not seen yet on this laptop though)
Storage :
Noise : 0dB (wifi) to 0dB (gaming)
Temperature : expect up to 0 Celsius on bottom, 0 on top
Battery : 0 mins (wifi) or 0 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive

Asus g751 JT - 970m version - (not certain if thickness is for the JY or JT version)
18/50 mm x 416 x 318 (3.8kg + ?kg Supply) {0cm^3}
Case : ()
Ports : HDMI, VGA, Thunderbolt, 4xUSB 3.0, RJ45-LAN, card reader
Wireless : ()
Keyboard : (back light, number pad)
Touchpad : (Large, separate buttons)
Display : (1080p, matte)
CPU : i7-4710HQ (i7-4860HQ suspected as well)
GPU : 970m Maxwell 3GB (970m can have a 6gb version not seen yet on this laptop though)
Storage : 1TB 7200rpm HDD
Noise : 0dB (wifi) to 0dB (gaming)
Temperature : expect up to 0 Celsius on bottom, 0 on top
Battery : 0 mins (wifi) or 0 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive

Clevo P370SM-A (Schenker XMG P724) - (SLI, could get both 970m and 980m SLI, the 880m SLI had problems with CPU and GPU temperatures, even going to 980m might help these a lot.)

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50 x 419 x 293 (4.3kg + 1.3kg Supply) {6139cm^3}
Case : medium-good (rubberized plastic / metal)
Ports : HDMI, Thunderbolt, 4xUSB 3.0, 1xeSATA/USB 2.0, RJ45-LAN, 9in1 card reader, 7.1 audio
Wireless : medium (Centrino Advanced-N 6235)
Keyboard : good (large keys, back light, number pad)
Touchpad : poor (large clickpad)
Display : medium (TN, 1080p, matte, grainy finish)
CPU : i7-4810MQ (can get any 17-4xxx MQ/MX CPU)
GPU : SLI 2x880m Kepler (SLI 970m/980m expected, should be much lower TDP)
Storage : 1.5TB 5400rpm HDD + 500gb Samsung SSD 840 EVO (2x2.5" bays, 2xmSATA total)
Noise : bad - 40-48dB (wifi) to 50-55dB (gaming)
Temperature : expect below 40 Celsius on top and bottom (CPU hits 95c both GPU's hit 90c)
Battery : 120 mins (wifi) or 100 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive, finger print reader

Asus g750JS/JZ - [probably discontinued and replaced by g751]

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Asus g750JS
50 x 410 x 318 (4kg + 0.6 kg Supply) {wedge shaped ?5867cm^3?}
Case : Good (Plastic / aluminum parts)
Ports : HDMI, VGA,Thunderbolt, 4xUSB 3.0, Ethernet, SD card
Wireless : Medium-good (Bigfoot Networks Killer Wireless-N 1202)
Keyboard : Good (back light, number pad)
Touchpad : great (Large, separate keys)
Display : 17.3" Medium (TN, 1080p, Matte)
CPU : i7-4700HQ (I think other i7-4xxxHQ CPUs are available)
GPU : 870m Kepler (970m should be far lower TDP)
Storage : 1.5TB 5400rpm HDD + 256GB SanDisk SD5SE2256G1002E (2.5"+ 2xmSATA)
Noise : 29-33dB (wifi) to 41-50dB (gaming)
Temperature : EXCELLENT - expect up to 38 Celsius on bottom, 33 on top
Battery : 330 mins (wifi) or 100 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive

Asus g750(JZ)
58 x 410 x 318 (4.3kg + 0.8kg Supply) {wedge shaped ?6910cm^3?}
Case : Good (Plastic / aluminum parts)
Ports : HDMI, VGA,Thunderbolt, 4xUSB 3.0, Ethernet, SD card
Wireless : Medium-good (Bigfoot Networks Killer Wireless-N 1202)
Keyboard : Good (back light, number pad)
Touchpad : great (Large, separate keys)
Display : 17.3" Medium (TN, 1080p, Matte)
CPU : i7-4700HQ (I think other i7-4xxxHQ CPUs are available)
GPU : 880m Kepler (980m should be far lower TDP)
Storage : 1.5TB 5400rpm HDD + 2x128GB Sandisk X110 SD6SP1M-128G (2.5"+ 2xmSATA)
Noise : 29-34dB (wifi) to 41-48dB (gaming)
Temperature : EXCELLENT - expect up to 38 Celsius on bottom, 33 on top (72c CPU, 77c GPU)
Battery : 380 mins (wifi) or 90 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive

Clevo P377SM-A (Sager 9377) - used HTWingNuts review for most of this info
Known options - i7-4710MQ/4900MQ/4940MX, 980m SLI 4GB GDDR5 (MXM)
(I would recommend waiting for an SLI 980m 8GB version; already very cool running a 980m SLI would make this an almost cold laptop. If you plan to do overclocking with an SLI system this is probably your best choice.)

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http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...ger-np9377-clevo-p377sm-review-htwingnut.html
55 x 419 x 295 (4.4kg + 1.4kg Supply) {6798cm^3}
Case : Good (Plastic)
Ports : HDMI, 4xUSB 3.0, 1xeSATA/USB 2.0, ThunderBolt, RJ45-LAN, card reader, 7.1 audio
Wireless : (Intel 7260 AC) {NEW - Intel Dual Wireless-AC 7260 2x2/Killer Gaming Wireless-N 1202}
Keyboard : Medium+ (back light, number pad, might be good can't find enough info)
Touchpad : ? (Large, seperate buttons)
Display : 17" Good (120hz, TN, 1080p, Matte, if viewing angles don't bother you this is a great screen, and they are even fairly decent)
CPU : i7-4810MQ (can use other i7-4xxx MQ/MX CPUs){NEW i7-4710MQ/4900MQ/4940MX}
GPU : 880m SLI (980m SLI would be massively lower TDP) {NEW - 980m SLI 4GB GDDR5 (MXM)}
Storage : (2 x 2.5" + 2 x mSATA)
Noise : ?dB (wifi) to ?dB (gaming) {"The fan sound was quite low when idle, but during gaming it could be quite prominent"}
Temperature : EXCELLENT - expect up to 33 Celsius on top and bottom (CPU stays <83c both GPU <82c)
Battery : 130 mins (wifi) or ? (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive, Fingerprint Reader

18"

Alienware 18 (This shows possible CPU/GPU throttling, even 980m should be far lower TDP, so it is unlikely this would be an issue with them. This is not a truly recent laptop so it might get a complete refresh, at minimum expect many newer components)

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http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/alienware-18-review-2014-model/
58 x 457 x 328 (5.5kg + 1.3kg Supply) {8694cm^3}
Case : great (annodized/rubberized aluminum)
Ports : HDMI, Mini Display Port, 4xUSB 3.0, RJ45-LAN, 9in1 card reader
Wireless : medium (Broadcom 802.11ac)
Keyboard : great (macro keys, back light, number pad, large keys)
Touchpad : good (medium size, seperate buttons, backlit)
Display : good (super PLS, 1080p, glossy)
CPU : i7-4930mx (can choose any mq/mx CPU)
GPU : 780m SLI (socketed, so they can be changed)
Storage : 750gb 7200rpm HDD+ 1x512gb Samsung SSD SM841
Noise : 30-36dB (wifi) to 40-46dB (gaming) {up to 53dB in stress testing}
Temperature : expect below 40 Celsius on top and bottom (automatic throtling of CPU 90 / GPU 80)
Battery : 150 mins (wifi) or 70 (gaming)
Other : Optical Drive

 

I GOT SOME GOOD NEWS.

My local reseller told me MSI will launch their NEW laptops om the 7th!!!!

 

Could you elaborate on this? I saw on notebookcheck.com and lesnumeriques.net that there was indeed some criticism of the display, but I heard elsewhere that the problems may be fixed by selecting the correct color profile on windows and that it was still a great display. This is something which is important to me and apparently GT70 screens were better? Is there no chance that this will be fixed with the 980M models? How bad is it really?

 

Sounds about right. Thanks
Asus G751 models wont be here in Scandinavia until October 22nd.

 

Great find, FNAC is a huge technology/electronics chain store found all throughout France.

Based on what I said earlier about Haswell possibly being too hot and waiting for Broadwell instead, I didn't realise at the time Broadwell H wasn't due till Mid-2015 (thought everything was launching together in January). So yeah, I will be going for a Haswell+980m after all.

The G751 with the 980m is 3.8kg on the FNAC link, whereas the G750 JZ with 880m was 4.3kg. If that's accurate, it's a huge improvement in portability, and confirms the 980m thermals are much easier to manage.

edit: just noticed there's no SSD in either of the G751's on the FNAC link??!

 

According to notebookcheck 900M should be officially announced tomorrow, can't wait for first reviews of 900M series :3 hopefully it will be like the leaks sad so.

 

I don't know that I agree. That's a blanket statement that isn't really true. I used to read a LOT of novels before I had kids (heck did a lot more things before kids), but I've never been articulate or well spoken, despite having an engineering degree, thousands of novels behind me, and being in the corporate environment for 20 years. I'm not saying don't read, but it doesn't necessarily make you more articulate, well spoken, or better with social skills. Heck I know quite a few book nerds that have worse social and speaking skills than your average computer geek.

tl;dr: Being educated with a big vocabulary doesn't really translate to improved social and speaking skills.

 

Don´t trust that, notebookcheck have that date because they have to put one date, but that doesn´t mean is correct at all

 

Yep but that date seems right because of some release date leaks of new laptops, ca 7th Oct. MSI, ca 20th Oct. ASUS ... Anyways It does not matter if it won't be tomorrow, I am just praying that it will be this week

 

Add Sager 9377 (Clevo P377SM-A) to the list, Sager will be sticking with the 9377 chassis for their 17" SLI.

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And I know hundreds of those who doesn't read books regularly or are in a business where they need to read a lot (lawyers, journalists etc) and are less articulate, well spoken and use smaller vocabular than me or those who actually reads more than couple books a year or has some specific jobs where you have to read/use non-everyday vocabulary. You just feel higher intelligence... even if such 2 guys will just go in the shop for a bottle of beer you will see a difference between that one who reads a lot and that one who just hang-outs a lot

 

James, I don't necessarily agree. Sometimes the one who just hangs out a bunch has more interesting conversation and / or personality.

 

In any case, it's kind of hilarious that we've deviated all the way to Ayn Rand novels and lawyers in bars. I hope nVidia reads this and sees what they're doing to us! Maybe they can get a laugh from it all!


...Or they could get me my new video cards, haha!

 

Anyway to get this back on track. When is the official release date of the parts? Any word on when Asus and and Alienware will update there products?

 

Well, no official date. We have a bunch of people who are saying Oct 7-20th per vendor over and over, but either because of NDA or just not wanting to be cited they won't tell us concretely and until nVidia does, (even if the source is typically spot on) we don't know.

 

I have an alienware mx17 r4 with a gtx 680m, 3940xm, 32gb hyperx ddr3, 512gb Samsung 840 pro raid 0, and 500gb Samsung evo msata ssd. I use it primarily as a portable HTPC. I have noticed that I have to turn down some of the graphics settings on the newer graphically intensive games from 2014.

Looking at the 980m, it seems like it's going to be a massive leap in performance. In the past, there have been modders who have made it possible to install new graphics cards not intended for use with my model laptop. I am hoping that some awesome modder will put out a driver/.inf that will allow an upgrade to the 980m. However, if they do not, I am debating on keeping my laptop and putting together a small mini itx HTPC with an I7/I5 and a gtx 970, or buying a whole new laptop with the 980m. I wonder how long after release a modder will put out a driver to upgrade the R4 to a 980m.

I'm on jury duty right now and perusing all the Maxwell threads for fun. Thanks for all the good info out there guys! Keep on trucking!

 

I still have my old r4 around with the gtx680m, and I will order soon the new MSI with gtx980m, I will try to put in the gtx980m and see how it works out. Lets hope modding the inf is all we got to do .

 

Alienware laptops usually do not require modded BIOS or vBIOSes to install newer cards, the trend has shown. There *IS* a possibility that the 980M or 970M will be inherently incompatible with it for no real reason, but the chance of that is a bit low. I believe the 770M had incompatibility problems with one of the M18x machines, but no other card had that problem with it. But in general, you likely won't have a problem at all.

 

CLEVO P651SE listed in Poland

With GTX 980M ($1999)
Laptop XTREEM EV by Clevo P651SG dla Gracza

With GTX 970M ($1599)
Laptop XTREEM EV by Clevo P651SE dla Gracza

It says "on board" which makes me they are soldered...

 

Are those the new slim line 15" Clevo's I wonder?

 

Woohoo... board soldered parts... *sigh*

 

First time I have ever seen top end GPUs being soldered.
I`m sure these type of GPUs have their restrictions heat wise which is why I am surprised.

@Templesa:
Yup, you got it. Thin 15" Clevo machines. There was some leaked pictures posted somewhere but I forgot where

 

I just cant imagine the power of a GTX 980MX if the 980M already features 1664CC

 

So, good and bad news. Unless nVidia is so confident in these cards that they aren't worried about heat... Not to mention, is this the first we've seen about a 4GB 980M? Maybe MXM indicated by 8GB?

 

Note sure if srs nvidia

4gb can't be

 

Btw going to be updating that massive list I made on page 68 till its more finished, then might start a new thread with it in the laptop buying forum.

for now added the info we have on the new Clevo p651, and detailed 2 of the old models I had listed on the ToDo. probably not going to mention it again till its semi-finished.

Yeah the 4gb is worrisome, it should be fine for now in the single 980m setups, but future games, or SLI laptops might suffer from it.

 

Didn't ASUS solder their last 870/880M releases?

 

No they had MXM connector but funky PCB design.

 

Ah okay. Well then. As long as all the cards are not soldered. I dislike this broadwell & maxwell trend of wanting to solder everything.