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    GTX 980M / 970M Maxwell (Un)official news

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by HSN21, Sep 18, 2014.

  1. ericc191

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    Which notebook is it? That link just shows listings for "laptop."
     
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    About that Asus G751 (with 980M) at "shark.sk" , It's one big company from my country, so I asked them about when should be the laptop available for buying - they replied that it should be available for customers at around 7. October . After that respond they deleted the page with both laptops (980M/970M) - I guess they shouldnt show them before they are officially announced with 9xx cards .
     
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    Yep I did the same :D and I was also sad that at 7. October :D And from MSI didn't exactly sad that it will be in the middle of October but i guess it's the right time :)
     
  5. kevin_172

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    well i will have a clevo laptop with 980m's in sli. im just waiting on the release date as my 880m sli laptop is sitting at scan because of throttling issues :D
     
  6. HSN21

    HSN21 Notebook Deity

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    Yeah i noticed LOL they brought the page down, then simply shows us that our previous leaks/dates were correct
    970m/980m for 7-11 October 100%
     
  7. Richdog

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    I am so getting a 970m...

    They kick the crap out of the 800m series, possibly the biggest leap in mobile graphics since the 600m series was released. New games will run fluently at 1080p at max for at least 18 months, and your beloved older games (RTS, mmm) will mostly run 3k/4k without any issues.

    Finally, we are getting what can be considered "higher-end" desktop class cards on laptops NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M - NotebookCheck.net Tech :D
     
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    GeForce GTX 980M vs 970M
    Just tried editing the URL to see if there were 970M stats too, there are! Interesting seeing the comparison between 980 and 970.
     
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    I've checked GPU Boss site for unconfirmed/unreleased cards in the past, however, never really know where they pulled their information though...
     
  12. FuDoW

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    I revieved another info about Ghost Pro 970m directly from MSI - at first only 3k screen version will be available, but at least they are going to offer it in both dark and gold color :)

    Unfortunately they could not disclose any information about the premiere, but still i believe that 7-11.10.2014 looks preety solid :)
     
  13. Derek712

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    Does anyone have the gold color and can comment on it? I'm afraid to buy it and despise it. I'm just afraid of how yellow it will look. Silver would have been better.
     
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    Websites such as GPU Boss and CPU Boss seem to try directly compare competing products while focusing on the obvious things such as operational frequency, cache size, etc.... in the meantime, they seem to directly ignore/omit architecture changes and different features which can contribute to (or take away from) performance.

    I don't particularly see those websites as necessarily reliable.
    Good for basic info... but I doubt they would be a good indication on which product is actually better.
     
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    Kaozm Notebook Evangelist

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    Good to have the links one place and not all over this forum! Thnx Cloud! :thumbsup:
     
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    Dont stress it.
    The 4860HQ runs only 100MHz above 4710HQ so its neglible difference. What is better on the 4860HQ however is the IGP. A ton better. So if you plan to use the IGP on gaming instead of the beastly GTX 980M, that Asus notebook will be ideal for you yes.
    Me personally would pick GT72 for other reasons such as having the option to change the GPU further down the line, not to mention the easiness of repasting the GT72 notebooks. Asus G-series is hell compared
     
  19. Kaozm

    Kaozm Notebook Evangelist

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    We have not seen a disassembly video of the g751 tho..? or, do you gota treat for meeee? :D
     
  20. octiceps

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    ASUS isn't gonna suddenly pull an about-face. Their G Series notebooks have been impossible to disassemble since the G73JH, which I used to own. ID and presumably internals have changed little since that 5-year-old machine.
     
  21. Kaozm

    Kaozm Notebook Evangelist

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    No but seriously i'm not evensure if the battery is removable or not? Have they hidden away some sort of lock somewhere to.. Plop out that piece of alu? Are the new heatsinks been twisted around? is it now possible to access from the bottom??

    View attachment 116052
     
  22. Cloudfire

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    Yes, exactly. I am just thinking that they still will stick to their money grabbing business of using non upgradable weird MXM modules to force people to buy new machines from them instead of just buying a new video card.
    I think Ive seen the bottom of the G751 somewhere and you only had access to HDD and two SO-DIMMs I think, so it looks like they are gonna make repasting still difficult.

    But sure, would love to see them use normal MXM modules like the rest. Its one of the few reasons why I hesitate to buy their notebooks. Their notebooks are solid elsewhere
     
  23. Kaozm

    Kaozm Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok then, final question.. (for now:hi2 :) How much better preformance are we talking from that asus cooler compared to other's? if it is incredibly better and you would not have to repaste after twice+ the time? kind of balances it out tho? ( if )

    It is absolutely possible to dissasemble that g750, just takes longer and you should have done it a few times before.. Youtubeftw..
     
  24. Cloudfire

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    The G-series cooling systems are top notch for sure. Low temps and low noise. In my opinion the MSI GT72 looks to come pretty close to it if you look at reviews.
    Alienware are good too with low temps, just a little more noisy, except the Alienware 18, it output less noise than the Alienware 17, which was one of the reasons why I bought i. Same goes with Clevo, they are not so balanced as Asus in cooling/noise ratio.

    All in all, it just depends what you prefer. If you can live with a little noise, you get much more options. Each brand have its unique trademark which makes them interesting.

    Clevo - great value - many options for tweaking and upgrading and repasting. A little on the noisy side.

    MSI - Same as Clevo, only more expensive and have lower noise on the GT72 models

    Alienware - Expensive but great warranty options. Easy to upgrade and repaste. Except AW18 which takes a good deal of work to even get down to the heatsinks and hardware

    Asus - Semi expensive, great cooling, bad repasting protocol and virtually none upgrade options except HDD and VRAM
     
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    As someone with the P170SM-A (with an 870M), I'd like to have a chance to upgrade to the 900M series (Or beyond) a few years from now - How likely is it that I'll be able to get my current GPU replaced with a newer one? What would that depend on?
     
  26. NorrinRadd

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    Could you elaborate on that a bit? Isn't the 4860 better than the 4810, itself better than the 4710? With regards to performance, why would MSI only offer GT72s with a 4710 instead of a more performant 4860?
     
  27. Ethrem

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    It depends on bios and vbios support as well as how much you are willing to pay to get the card. Rumor is the SM-A series will support the new cards but we will have to see. If you got the machine through a reseller, you may be able to contact them to purchase the upgrade otherwise you would have to go get the cards from a third party and install them yourself.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
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  28. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'm seeing an awful lot of 'Dam di dudu du du'in going on....... leave it to the French, LOL! :D

    Meh, I'm sure if an accurate comparison is done, the GT72 will prevail. Also, SKU's will vary from country to country, so don't assume no other CPU's will be available. Wait till you see MY new shiny GT72! ;)
     
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  29. Kaozm

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    Because they will likely make a pro/something version, with maxed out everything..?
     
  30. Cloudfire

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    There os already been leaked a benchmark of the P170SM-A running a GTX 980M so I would say your future looks bright ;)
    Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4940MX CPU @ 3.10GHz,Notebook P17SM-A

    It doesnt perform much more.
    4860HQ runs at 3.5GHz and 4710HQ runs at 3.4GHz. Virtually identical.
    4860HQ have the Iris Pro IGP while 4710HQ have the HD4600. Iris Pro is muuuch better, if you want to game with tje IGP.

    Dont look at the numbers in the CPU names, thats how they get to you and trick you :)
    The 4860HQ cost much more than the 4710HQ so if you are like me and buying a notebook with 980M to actually use that 980M, its money wasted.

    Im already ready to purchase a new notebook after selling my notebook. Release the kraken already :p
     
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    Thanks for the answer, I appreciate it. So no reason to buy a 4860HQ if you're planning on using the 980M or 970M? As someone who knows very little about hardware, I would totally have preferred buying the 4860HQ if you hadn't told me. Ugh.
     
  33. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    I think when I post my shiny new GT72 unbox'in photos, and benchmarks, you'll be saying, "WHA?, HOW THE?", perhaps in not so many words. :D
     
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    Sager is already slashing prices on 880M/870M prices (up to $325 off). So I'd imagine October 1st is looking more realistic by the day.
     
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    ROFL

    First I will say congratz , second this:

    [​IMG]
     
  37. Ethrem

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    I'd have to buy myself a birthday present. Birthday is the 2nd.
     
  38. Hellmanjk

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    Someone in another thread mentioned this:
    IDK if this was mentioned. I have been keeping up with this thread and have not seen someone else mention this.
     
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    Unless it's in the next hour or so, it won't be soon enough ;)
     
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    People misspell things or make typos regularly, and its both in a picture, and a name, so a spell checker will never notice it. I don't think a misspelling like that means anything.

    The leaked slides that picture came from also had leaks of the 980/970 slides that actually got used. So I would be very surprised if it was not a true leak. (That said there is no guarantee those companies will not have changed their lineups by the time of the actual release.)
     
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    i need the new GPU what the heck where the hell is it
     
  43. Kaozm

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    Can't count how many times i have misspelled Aurorus

    In your dreams! :rolleyes:
     
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    You guys need to go smoke.... something, lay low for a couple weeks and then come back. It will be OK... you will be fine. Go for a walk. Kick the cat. Lick your significant other... Something to bide the time.
     
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    GTX 980M / 970M Maxwell Officially announced - In laptops february 2015
     
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    February????
     
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    Even if they did why on earth would anyone buy a 4k monitor on a single 980m? I mean... Seriously? 3K was aready like uh, okay.
     
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    I could actually see going for the GX500 !!! IF !!! they give it a decent cooling system. The nx500 it is based on was throttling on a 850m maxwell, so I would definitely wait for reviews though.

    For gaming, and well pretty much in general I would prefer it had a WQHD (1440p) or 3K screen, however the 4k screen they have on it looks pretty epic in nearly every other regard.

    Approx 100% aRGB and NTSC color gamut (may want to restrict it to 100% sRGB for gaming but even thats rare to find)
    740:1 contrast (not the best, but very good)
    gamma 2.1 (again very good)
    it is really one of the best displays you can find on any laptop.

    Also has a very solid build quality
    and lots of other good points.

    That said it WAS a Pre-Production sample, and I have not been able to find reviews since.

    on it throttling too, only the CPU throttled not the GPU, but that was while gaming, not during a stress test, and a far lower TDP GPU. Of course they may have fixed the problems, and if they did it could be a really nice choice, especially if you also do things like art/video editing.
     
  50. ryzeki

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    I definitely would :) The screen quality is important and the added resolution for productivity is welcomed. I don't need to game at 4K, and scaling to 2k works good enough. I have a 4K TV and it displays 1080 content just fine, unlike 1080 monitors/tvs when playing with 720 res.
     
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