Geforce GTX280M and 260M to launch at CeBit

I have my fingers crossed

If the performance really is as good as mentioned, it will quite an upgrade over my current card, and help the system last longer, especially if I pair it with a T9600 CPU

 

HP is no help here, they make their own cards, not MXM... but how about ASUS?

 

Yeah I know but it's closer now than it was 2 days ago.

Throw a 4860x2 in the carbon fiber chassis of a Lenovo Y650 with a QX9300 and the RGB screen of Dell's Studio XPS 16 and I could be convinced to commit any of several lewd and/or illicit acts.

 

*shutter*(ten)

 

Hmmm.... just for a laptop? That's a little too intense don't you think?

 

Well except for the 4860x2 those components are already in laptops.

Lenovo's Ideapad product page makes mentions of the Y650 using up to an Extreme Core 2 CPU clocked at 2.53Ghz but no model is currently for sale using one. It was the same case with the Ideapads Y730 when they came out so the QX9300 may very well be in the Y650s future.

And the Dell Studio XPS 16 offers an RGB screen with 1980x1020 resolution.

 

Don't you mean 1920 x 1080?

 

Yeah but now I can't correct it because you quoted my text. ;þ

 

I was talking about the illicit acts haha...

 

Of course that's what he means there is no 1980x1020 native resolution on any known existing screen

 

Yea, I know. That's why I did it.

But seriously though, I didn't know the Y650 used carbon fiber. Is it the whole chassis?

 

With the exception of the C, Z series and the W90, they use a proprietary 'flipped' MXM design.

 

hp sells more laptops than asus. by about 20 times over.

 

Asus is one of the parts suppliers for major players in the computer industry, plus I'm sure Asus has a much larger market share in Asia and especially Taiwan, where Asus is based out of.

 

ummm, ok. i know people like to be right and all, which is fine. im generalizing.
and the 4860 is a mobile chip not a desktop chip. who has more laptops? hp does. i dont care if asus has office in 300 cities, they dont sell more laptops than hp.

it was just and example i was giving. not a fact up for discussion.

 

lol hp does sell alot more and the 4860 should offer amazing performance on a budget. this thread is kinda a little of every thing because the 280's are public the info's out, its interesting to watch this every day lol

 

yep, gets more interesting by the day....
both companies are about to come under fire here shortly... and even clevo might catch a bit of it if the new model is in fact a single gpu solution (i7) and the m98 has no over clocking (against the whitebook/w90vp/alieneware with hijacked ocz bios/msi gt725)
ati either passing 4850's off as 4870's or vice versa or they both are true to what they are and their is a higher end 4870 in the making...the list goes on mr moo....

 

i think there is a high end 4870 in the making ....maybe its wishful thiking because im on the recieveing end but there has been talk and alienware reps have confirmed it. ATI hasn't been cutting corners as of late i think they are trying to get a nice share in the GPU market and they wouldn't pull a NVIDIA lol

 

that's what i was thinking...but we shall see how it unfolds...

 

i might sound a bit egoistic, but i'm not interested in HP because I have a nice laptop and the only thing I'd like to replace is the MXM-II 9600GT =)

 

I know the internal chassis is but I haven't gotten the chance to be all touchy/feely on the thing to know it all intimate-like.

 

Oh.....

Well sometimes you gotta take things to the next level to get peoples attention.

 

you guys keep jumping on the examples....
it could be gateway/dell/apple or some other main stream laptop sell with big bucks to spend...hell it could be uniwill if they didn't get bought out by msi. (i had one of them as well when it was top of the line)

but as of right now...looks like you will be keeping that mxm_II

 

Same here
I believe my card isn't soldered to the board

LET US DREAM
lol

You may be right though (probably )

 

If you need a gauge for how much the new Nvidia cards cost, the Sager 5797 is on preorder with the GTX 280M standard for $1692.00

 

That is probably a decent gauge. Looks considerably cheaper than the 9800M GTX.

 

Yeah on Powernoteboks, the 9800 GTX is actually a +265 premium over the 280M.

I can't wait to get my hands on the 260M for my M860TU. Looks like it will be much cheaper than I was expecting it to be. I've been telling people Nvidia would have to drop prices, and here we go.

 

but we will still hear complaints/arguments/debates/opinions and so on about the new price.

side note. just priced an asus with qx9300...thing cost more than a d901c 3600 before taxes

 

The GTX280 and GTX260 are using G92 core's and dont even compare to the real GTX280 and GTX260

 

ummm, so what does this have to do with anything? im just curious is all....

 

sweet! the price for the GTX 280m is much better than I thought. Just a question; what's the cheapest place to get a notebook with:
-Nvidia GTX 280m
-4GB DDR3 ram
-Intel 2.66GHz or higher 6MB L2 or higher cache
-Blue-Ray;

 

Yeah, but they also put a 9800M GS over the 8600m GT in SLI and I can tell you from experience that with the same CPU the SLI 8600m GT will beat a single since my t7250 2GHz with the SLI 8600m GT gave nearly the same performance as the 9800m GS with a P8400 @ ~2.5GHz.

I'm still looking for the right laptop since I cancelled my order on the W90. Maybe Toshiba next SLI laptop will have two 260m in it, I'd like that a lot. The Sager 5796 with the 280m looks like a contender too.


Does Sager have an OC utility for the CPU like ASUS & MSI?

 

SLI 8600m GT won't even almost outperform the 9800M GS.

 

well considering they said the 9800m gt sli was better than the 9800m gtx sli, which i never once even considered to be true.....this just gets more interesting as the months unfold...

 

I was taking my OC on the SLI [480/1200/799] into account and couldn't OC the 9800m GS.

I've had both and returned the ASUS with the GS and the P8400 because it didn't give me anything over my Toshiba SLi1 T7250/SLI 8600m. The only thing the ASUS had over the Toshiba was the processor so explosions didn't lag in Fallout3. Even the 3DM06 scores on the SM2/3 were within 100 pts of each other.

3DM06 scores

Toshiba [2GHz/8600m GT SLI CL: 480/1200/799] @ 1280x800 = 8250
ASUS [~2.5GHz/9800m GS stock] @ 1280x768 = 8900

Over on the Toshiba Theads the 8600m GT in SLI with a T9300 upgrade = 9500

 

Look my benchmark in my signature and think again

 

Yeah, so?

Look

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=214931&highlight=t9500

The 8600mGT in SLI with just a 2.5ghz gets 9700 and you'll see it beats you in the SM 3.0 test if you scroll down.

With the CPU dependency of the 3dm06 if the SLI 8600m GT had your CPU, just the CPU score increase from that additional .4GHz would have the scores near even.

Yet consider that SLI benefits more from greater clockspeeds and that higher clocks will raise the SM 2.0/3.0 scores and that would put SLI 8600m GT a few 100pts over a single 9800m GS.

Info on CPU clocks and 3dm06 performance for a single & sli set-up:

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=2063257

But even without that 2nd increase taken into account, they're at least equal clock:clock.


*rests case*

 

3Dmark06? No, Go download the DMC4 demo and run the DX10 benchmark; max settings, 1680x1050.

I've seen single 8800M GTX destroy SLI 8700M GT.

 

link that you post, 3dmark result is on 1280x800, my result is on 1280x1024,but 3d mark is nothing, compare real game benchmark

 

I couldn't see your res, so I assumed your G50 screen was the same res as the 1366x768 one in BestBuy that I had. Although I'm sort of surprised that you got like a 40% performance increase from just a 22%GPU and 16%CPU increase.

I unfortunately don't have the T9300 in my SLi1 or I'd run the DMC4 Bench as I'm interested myself in comparing, I can't find any game bench marks. I know the different 3DM06 scores between my SLI laptop with a T7250 and the P8400 @ 2.5GHz & 9800mGS ASUS at BestBuy is completely attributable to the CPU speed. I saw it in the 3DM06 and in the games I played before I returned the ASUS [The Witcher/FarCry2/Orange Box/Bioshock] and returned it because I was getting the same FPS more or less and any variation in FPS between the two laptaops just varied upon the area I was at in-game. That's why I returned the ASUS G50, I got no real performance increase over my Toshiba.

If I ever put the T9300 in there I'll post some benches. I have to admit that it will lose at the res of that DMC4 bench due to memory buffer, 256mb just won't cut high textures and AA @ that resolution.

 

i would let that go.
an sli 8600m gt/8700m gt can't even beat a single 8800m gts card.

http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=7023957&compareResultType=14
11,230@1280x800
5145
4966
2754
http://service.futuremark.com/resultComparison.action?compareResultId=7143269&compareResultType=14
10,196@1280x1024
gateway machines beat out the toshibas. why do you think they stayed with the low res screen? because it would be a slide show going any higher. but now toshiba got wise and came back with an sli 9800m gts. i spent many of hours (back then) testing the rigs out before i bought my first gateway. these are the facts....

side note:
xp don't count either. needs to be vista or higher.

 

You also loose because of the low bus width 128-bit compared to 256-bit, also remember SLI does not count as 200%, i.e that both cards runs efficiently when running in SLI in games. Which they don´t.

 

hey mag...they got them 9800m gtx's for ya(m1730)...lol

 

I have 1680x1050 screen, my lapy is from newegg.com

 

hmmm...? I thought they only had SLI 9800m GT?

 

hey, they took it down! it use to be there.

let me check a few other places real quick.

told you i seen it.
http://configure.ap.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=au&cs=audhs1&kc=&l=en&oc=R541226AU&s=dhs
which came from this thread.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=356823&page=3

 

Yep they have them Well I will definitely upgrade my CPU to an X9000 then I´ll see if I get the 9800m GTX SLI But first CPU. Dang you John with your Quad Core CPU in your Sager Might be a Sager next time for me

The swedish Dell site has the 9800m GTX in SLI. Look here just scroll down:

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dell...sv&m_30=121434&oc=N03X7303&rbc=N03X7303&s=dhs

 

Shouldn't it be 2gb for the 9800M GTX SLi instead of 1gb? Unless the 9800M GT SLi they have has 1gb per core. If that isn't the case, I say the extra $325 wouldn't be worth it.

Also, didn't the latest BIOS for the M1730 suggest support the GTX 200M series?

 

new clevos will be out in a month or so...

you never know...remember...we did see a dual gpu ati card....could be for a dell...

 

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but sager are quick to jump onto this wagon, updating their 15.4" and 17" chassis with the GTX 260M and 280M chips. Check it out:

http://www.sagernotebook.com/