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    HURRAY: Nvidia 600 series not just Fermi!! (Kepler)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cloudfire, Mar 2, 2012.

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    They must've left GPU physics on.
     
    5482741, Mar 17, 2012
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    Hmmm... are any Kepler mobile GPUs coming out before mobile Ivy Bridge CPUs release? Because June is a rather long wait for Ivy Bridge mobile processors to come out.
     
    awakeN, Mar 17, 2012
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    Some Mobile Ivy Bridge processors will be out before/by May FOR SURE, Some Kepler's as well.
     
    plancy, Mar 17, 2012
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    From what I've read, only the extreme mobile processors are out before June. The mainstream processors are due in June 2012.

    What I'm really hoping for is Kepler cards on a Sandy Bridge processor, since I care more for GPU power rather than CPU power xP
     
    awakeN, Mar 17, 2012
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    I sure hope the mobile keplers won't be super pricy... I cancelled my order for a laptop with a 7690m XT a few days ago to wait for one with a GTX 660M/GT 660M since I'd hate to buy a new laptop during a transitional time (between Sandy and Ivy, 40nm GPUs and 28nm ones) and regretting it in the end
     
    Raficoo, Mar 17, 2012
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    I agree. :D
     
    plancy, Mar 17, 2012
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    Overclocked GT 650M. He haven`t posted any benchmarks yet :)

     
    Cloudfire, Mar 17, 2012
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    woot! time to plan my desktop build. hellooooooo SLI-680's :D :D :D
     
    houstoned, Mar 17, 2012
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    Or you could wait for the GTX 690's in may :D
     
    awakeN, Mar 17, 2012
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  10. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    wow SLI 680 :D you will kill the games :D
     
    maxheap, Mar 17, 2012
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    Your wallet too :D .
     
    plancy, Mar 17, 2012
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    Key-point: All overkill for 1080p gaming. :D Bring out the 4k displays already!
     
    crpcookie, Mar 17, 2012
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    Me like, me want :cool:


    NVIDIA's New AA Algo is TXAA, Adaptive V-Sync and New 3DVision Surround Detailed | techPowerUp
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 17, 2012
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    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    ^^ Omg, I Want 680m Already!!! :)
     
    maxheap, Mar 17, 2012
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    *obligatory shut up and take my money.jpg*
     
    long2905, Mar 17, 2012
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    Both companies only see $$$ in their eyes and our pockets.

    Kevin, maybe you have right that GTX 660M get the same amount of SP what GT 640M/650M.
     

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    Amazing :O 680m is going to be a beast of a mobile GPU................
     
    plancy, Mar 17, 2012
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    I think they're all the same card lol, just different stock clocks.
     
    plancy, Mar 17, 2012
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    Its not maybe. Its about max turbo clocks (not confirmed) + faster memory with 660M :)

    650m.jpg
    660m.jpg
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 17, 2012
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    *shiver*

    u had me at 690...

    the info is much appreciated. i haven't really owned a desktop in about 15 years lol. i'm not really counting the 6-7 year old Dell i have hooked up to my plasma. it's just for torrents. i've been out of the desktop loop for so long, i'm gonna have to do a bit of researching. i'm aiming for something that can support triple monitors and run my games at the max settings. the new generation of CPU's are just plain phenomenal so i can go all out on graphics, and just pick up a nice CPU. i can always upgrade that later, but i doubt it'll ever be a bottleneck. even my current i7-840QM has been good enough for me.
     
    houstoned, Mar 17, 2012
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    Saw it, but still don't believe it :)
     
    midzi, Mar 17, 2012
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    Good news people: I can take a GT 650M and OC to GTX 660M speeds!!!

    !@#$%^&*()!!!

    That's not very good actually :(
     
    yknyong1, Mar 17, 2012
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    aye! aside from the 500Mhz memory clock different. What else?
     
    long2905, Mar 17, 2012
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    NVIDIA states that GPU turbo will remain active even when overclocking.

    Let's say when we OC Kepler based GPU to near its limit, if we can't disable that turbo, crash! :D
     
    yknyong1, Mar 17, 2012
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    gt 640m ~= gt 650m == gt(x?) 660m doesn't make any sense, really..
     
    maxheap, Mar 17, 2012
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    Arai, Mar 18, 2012
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    Bad news: "NVIDIA 直言 GPU Boost 並不能手動關閉"

    No manual switch to turn off GPU Boost. GPU Boost is controlled by hardware circuits and BIOS.
     
    yknyong1, Mar 18, 2012
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    When are those 650m coming? Lets say in europe, or at least 640m no matter if their with sandy bridge or ivy bridge notebooks
     
    Fruit, Mar 18, 2012
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    GT 640M and GT 650M already out in APAC region. Samsung sells the SB Q470 with GT 650M in China and Japan while Acer sells the SB M3 with GT640M and preorder for the V3 with IB and GT 640M.

    No idea for Europe, though you will definitely see them launch in April.
     
    yknyong1, Mar 18, 2012
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    Thank for quick reply, i am in need of notebook, was lookin for n45sf with gt555m but it seems that i should wait
     
    Fruit, Mar 18, 2012
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    You should really wait - The GT 640M with DDR3 can equal or better the GT 555M with DDR3 as found in the ASUS N45SL or N45SF for many games. And with a pretty weak ULV SB CPU.
     
    yknyong1, Mar 18, 2012
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    How is that bad news? Why do you want to turn off/disable the GPU booster?

    If you overclock the GPU from 400Mhz to 700MHz, it will turbo up to that speed, while at the same time the GPU is able to downclock when you are doing nothing with the GPU. That is how it`s going to work I think. Not overclock the GPU from 400MHz to 700MHz and then it turbo additional clocks up to 900MHz.

    Look at this overclocked GT650M. I think the spikes you see is him doing something intensive with the GPU and it upclocked itself to 700MHz and the shaders up to 1400MHz which was the speeds he have overclocked to with the program. But it downclocked itself down to 400MHz/810MHz when he took the screenshots of the desktop while the overclocking was still active.

    [​IMG]
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 18, 2012
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    A bit off-topic post, but since there's a lot of talk about Kepler chips and GTX 680. If these early reviews are legit I'm quite impressed with the performance nvidia managed to squeeze in a relatively small chip with a 256bits memory bus.

    Yet I think the situation in the lower and upper mid-range will be interesting. On the one hand we have Pitcairn. It's small (215mm² iirc, so smaller than Barts), probably cheap to manufacture, and yet it seems to be an incredibly balanced chip.

    On the other hand we have Nvidia's GK 106. Since it's little brother, GK107, has a CC count 1/4 of the GK 104, I believed it should stand at 1/2 as S|A and early rumors put it. So we have a small (rumored at 155mm²) and fast chip, yet too severely stripped to compete with Pitcairn, standing in between Cape Verde (Radeon 7750/7770) and Pitcairn (7850/7870).

    So I believe the situation will be akin to this : nvidia trusting the lower mid-range with GK 106, AMD trusting the upper mid-range with Pitcairn.
    I'm not saying there won't be any competition ; for example obviously Nvidia can make stripped versions of the GK 104 parts to compete with Pitcairn, but because they will be salvaged parts of a considerably bigger chip AMD will have an edge. Same holds true for this hypothetical GK 106 against further stripped versions of Pitcairn.

    In the mobile sector if GK 106 indeed features 768CC I believe it would be a perfect candidate for the mainstream gamer segment, while on AMD's side Cape Verde will be too little and Pitcairn might be too much (reserved for 7970/7990M). So if my forecasts are correct I believe both sides will have an edge of their own in different markets. Hopefully it doesn't mean niche segments in the mobile sector and doesn't harm us consumers...
     
    Botsu, Mar 18, 2012
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    What mobile GPUs do you think will be using the GK106?
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 18, 2012
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    The GTX 660M would be a good candidate, but according to what we've seen so far unfortunately it's quite possible that we won't have any mobile GK106 until nvidia releases the Geforce 700 series (which may not be too far in the future) :(
     
    Botsu, Mar 18, 2012
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    Have you read the GPU OC screenshot? It says GPU turbo is offset according to the amount of OC.
     
    yknyong1, Mar 18, 2012
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    Well we have the screenshot of GTX 660M saying it have 384 CUDA cores which match with the GK107. But it doesn`t say which GK it is using. Not everyone believes that it is real though

    According to this ancient roadmap the GK106 is what is taking over for the GTX 560 and GTX 560 Ti. But its 256 bit which excludes GTX 660M



    Anyhow I think I will take a break from this discussion until we see more benchmarks and more definitive information.

    Reading this thread makes the wait a whole lot worse :p
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 18, 2012
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    LOL... Now who wants to release specs for GTX 660M? :D :D :D
     
    yknyong1, Mar 18, 2012
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    haha :) :D :p
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 18, 2012
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    Your posted tinypic went missing btw.
     
    yknyong1, Mar 18, 2012
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    again? :D

    Rep +1 for motivation!
     
    Prema, Mar 18, 2012
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    Oh.
    Thankfully I have them all stored in my computer :)

    @Prema: haha yes. Probably back tomorrow. Oh wait, I`m still here now :p
    Anyhow, POOF. All 100% gone now.
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 18, 2012
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    only about 5 days to go DDDDD:
     
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    Now... for something to kill time... and with some motivation from Prema...

    GUESS: the date Nvidia will release the new highend mobile cards for purchase! One date per person :D

    Highend refers to GTX 660M, GTX 670/675M.
     
    yknyong1, Mar 18, 2012
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    December 22, 2012
     
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    LOL... one day after end of mayan calendar! :p
     
    yknyong1, Mar 18, 2012
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    The mayan calendar does not end, it just ticks over to 13.
     
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    Upcoming GPUs from the AMD 7000M series, 7970M included. May or may not be accurate. Click to view bigger picture :D


    All credits goes to killyourself
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 18, 2012
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    Old chart, only estimtes/predictions, wouldn't believe any of the "future" stuff, it was probably made from Wikipedia info......
     
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