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    HURRAY: Nvidia 600 series not just Fermi!! (Kepler)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cloudfire, Mar 2, 2012.

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    in wikipedia, they are the desktop cards (exactly) not the mobile ones, whoever put that there was indeed high :D
     
    maxheap, Mar 18, 2012
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    Say high to unverified sources! :D
     
    yknyong1, Mar 18, 2012
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    well, thinking mobile cards equal desktop cards is being high :D
     
    maxheap, Mar 18, 2012
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    Yup, the 7970M = 7850/7870 with the specs in Wikipedia. The specifications I posted doesn`t fit with them at all
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 18, 2012
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    oh no buddy, HD 7970m = HD 7970 among those specs... (in wikipedia, your picture is much more plausible) including # of stream processors / texture units / core clock / memory clock / memory bandwidth, all the same with original HD 7970
     
    maxheap, Mar 18, 2012
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    LOL I can swear the 7970M = 7850 earlier. Maybe I remember wrong, I don`t know. But yeah, 7970M = 7970 now. :D

    Wonder if the specs I posted got some truth to it or someone just guessed what it is... Looks like some pretty sweet improvements from 6990M, plus it is only 65W. Almost too good to be true
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 18, 2012
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    Hmm, maybe it was an older chart that looked the same.

    Hmm, maybe it was an older chart that looked the same. Although, I still highly doubt that it's accurate, where did you pull that off of.
     
    plancy, Mar 18, 2012
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    Yeah I`m not shure myself it is correct. Found it in one of them chinese forums. Plus I found this. Looks very homebrewish :p :D
    Not shure what to think

    [​IMG]
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 18, 2012
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    wow if HD4000 is better than 7470m, then why the hell we have laptops with 7470m??? imagine HD4000 used for gaming and 7470m for browsing :D
     
    maxheap, Mar 18, 2012
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    Source? ;)
     
    yknyong1, Mar 18, 2012
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    That chart doesn't look correct; that's showing a Fermi 670m outperforming a Kepler 660m...

    Btw does anyone know the pricing of the 675m? I'm interested to know how that'll do...
     
    awakeN, Mar 18, 2012
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    The 670m(570m) will probably outperform the 660m, whether 660m is Kepler or the generation after that, if they release at the same time then 660m will have lower perf than 670m at STOCK clocks/drivers. 660m may be the same core as 640m and 650m with different stock clocks + GDDR5, just like e.g. 5650m 5670m and 5750m. You're really hard to convince...
     
    plancy, Mar 18, 2012
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    If that is true, then high-end mobile GPUs are very disappointing. Either way, Thunderbolt EGPU for me this round.
     
    crpcookie, Mar 18, 2012
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    I'm still concerned about the pricing of the 675m x.x
     
    awakeN, Mar 18, 2012
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    I beat the prices are going to be the same this round. Prices vs desktop cards is still high though.
     
    tony211, Mar 18, 2012
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    Question is, are we going to see Thunderbolt on windows laptops anytime soon? ;)

    Surely less than 580m. By how much we don't know.
     
    yknyong1, Mar 18, 2012
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    So the gtx 660m will be gimped?
     
    anycolour, Mar 18, 2012
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    i only see it going up to 675. i thought there was going to be a 680 and a 690.
     
    houstoned, Mar 18, 2012
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    690 will be desktop, there will be a 680m though
     
    maxheap, Mar 18, 2012
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    680M will come later after GK104 comes out.
     
    yknyong1, Mar 18, 2012
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    ah, ok thanks. is the 690 a single card or one of those 2-in-1 cards? i've heard those types of GPU's are a little more buggy?

    would SLI-680's be better than a 690? what are the differences? are there any benefits of going with a dual-card GPU?
     
    houstoned, Mar 19, 2012
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    Even those dual-GPU cards are actually internal SLI. Main disadvantage: microstuttering.
     
    yknyong1, Mar 19, 2012
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    so u're saying they're worst than just going SLI? i don't get the point of them then :confused:
     
    houstoned, Mar 19, 2012
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    I mean they are the same as going SLI. Main thing is saving slots for Quad SLI.
     
    yknyong1, Mar 19, 2012
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    quad SLI does sound tempting, but it also sounds a bit overkill lol. i'm not even sure what "microstuttering" is, but it sure doesn't sound very convenient. back to the original plan then. SLI-680's :D
     
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    "Date of Announcement 22.03.2012"

    I just want to give an obvious hint: It's true
     
    yknyong1, Mar 19, 2012
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    Its going to be so goooooood to finally know definitive specifications and see some reviews from Anandtech etc

    Especially to know the exact difference between the GT 640M, GT 650M and GTX 660M.
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 19, 2012
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    Man why are we still seeing GDDR5, hasn't it been used for a looong time?
     
    plancy, Mar 19, 2012
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    XDR2 production is still in the pipeline since nobody is interested yet, AFAIK.
     
    yknyong1, Mar 19, 2012
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    XDR2 is too expensive to use. The cards cost way too much as it is today.

    GTX 680 in stores right now is very good. We are so close. If only someone had 680M in stores right now too :p
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 19, 2012
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    Is there any shop that sends gt650m notebook to europe with en keyboard maybe in HK?
     
    Fruit, Mar 19, 2012
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    I don't think you can buy a GT650M anywhere yet.
     
    TheBluePill, Mar 19, 2012
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    Cant wait for GTX 680 benchmark!
     
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    Me too! Dying to see if it lives up to the nVidia Hype.. (Which it may..). Read that AMD has the 7990 Ready for release on the same day.. Talk about weeing in nVidia's Cheerios.
     
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    You can't tell me you wouldn't pay a little extra for this:

    Rambus - XDR2 Memory vs. GDDR5
     
    plancy, Mar 19, 2012
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    shineyyy!!! is there a preferred company to purchase from when it comes to desktop GPU's? i notice that a GPU can be sold from many different companies. i think i'm about to start piecing my desktop together right now. i didn't expect to see the 680's already. any recommendations on a nice motherboard that will be able to accept SLI 680's and the newest generation of CPU's?
     
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    Desktop Cards come in 2 Flavors, Reference and OC.

    Each manufacturers will usually release a reference spec'd card out of the gate. Many others will follow with the OC version later.

    Asus, MSI, Zotac, EVGA, PNY, Gigabyte.. Etc.. all make great Cards. I usually find one with the highest factory Clocks and buy it. (I have a Zotac AMP! edition GTX270 in my old desktop for example).
     
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    I totally would :) , but most people wouldn`t. Too little margin and too little user base that is interested to pay a premium for it to make that a profit for Nvidia/AMD.
    Its the same as IPS displays and expensive aluminum/titanium alloy (ok I made the titanium up but it would have been awesome lol)
     
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    thanks. i've been out of the desktop loop for so long, all of those companies are confusing lol. sometimes i wonder why there's so many different versions of the same card.

    to my understanding, those factory OC'd GPU's are a "mild" OC, correct? do u think i'd be ok to go with "reference spec'd" cards since i'll be going SLI, or would the OC'd ones be better? i've owned many mid-top tiered GPU's, but i've never actually tried my hand at OC'ing. :p
     
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    Hmmm... I think I'll just go and grab a laptop with a 6970m in it. Doesn't sound like the 660m will outperform and I don't think there will be a laptop around $1400 with a 680m in it.
     
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    No one wants anything to do with Rambus. They'll find a way to sue you lol.
     
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    Dude, no don`t do it. I think the 660M will perform atleast like the 6970M. You get a 50-55W 660M instead of a 80-100W 7970M. Atleast wait and see
     
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    Yeah, I'm on a ticking clock. I need a new laptop very, very soon, since I'm having hardware issues with my macbook.

    But, eh, it's only 3 days away until we find everything out.

    Only thing is, I need a laptop with a 660m with good specs for ~$1400 like right away :x
     
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    Yes 3 days more. You can survive that :p
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 19, 2012
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    Didn't you say you were going to leave this thread to ease the wait?
     
    awakeN, Mar 19, 2012
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    Yeah I did. Several times :p
     
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