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    HURRAY: Nvidia 600 series not just Fermi!! (Kepler)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cloudfire, Mar 2, 2012.

  1. awakeN

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    It hasn't even been 3 hours yet and im still anxious as ><

    either way, anyone know about new laptops coming out with a 660m?
     
  2. PaKii94

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    or the gt 650 :D
     
  3. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Don't think too much. If you want, ponder under a durian tree. It may do you wonders. :p

    He is forever short break of 1 minute :D
     
  4. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    lol. i cant wait either
     
  5. awakeN

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    How much hope should I have for a GTX 660m laptop by next week?
     
  6. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Let me tell you... almost zero. Likely takes a week after launch, and you do not know if mobile series will be launched.
     
  7. awakeN

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    So no chance by April 2nd or something?

    Malibal P151HM1 it is.
     
  8. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Once I attend the press event I will tell you...
     
  9. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    April 5th is when the NDA lift according to a rep for XoticPC stated so in these forums.
     
  10. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Tsk don't drag the rep in. NDA lift is part of NDA BTW.
     
  11. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    newb question:wat is NDA
     
  12. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    Okay well I think he might of meant that's when the NDA will be able to be discussed maybe.
     
  13. misterhobbs

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    Non Disclosure Agreement
     
  14. anycolour

    anycolour Notebook Consultant

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    So the GTX 660m will just be slightly better than a 560m? That's disappointing.
     
  15. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    Given that it's just a 640m/650m with GDDR5 and higher clocks, I think that's pretty good. It will probably perform between 560m and 570m, maybe even very close to 570m performance depending on how well the 670m's performance is since it is an overclocked 570m. clocks/drivers could probably be tuned some more.
     
  16. Seus

    Seus Notebook Consultant

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    I wouldn't mind it at all if the 660M is only slightly more powerful than 560M especially if the 660M has lower TDP. However someone said that the P151EM lastest BIOS doesn't support 660M.
     
  17. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Any sane person will not buy a current model and hope to upgrade to a next gen graphics card. An upgrade is always a bonus.
     
  18. aduy

    aduy Keeping it cool since 93'

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    if i do upgrade, i will wait for the 680m or the 780m, unless amd releases a very fast cheap card, that outperforms the nvidia one.
     
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    Correct. The OC'd factory cards are usually mild, but they do come out with some that are pretty hot (Zotac's AMP! edition for example). The thing about the factory OCd cards are the warranty and they are generally rock solid too. Its like buying a car with a factory supercharger vs adding one on your own.

    Usually you are only out 5-10% more money anyways for the OC version.. so why not.

    I was into overclocking way back in the 90's, but since then, i prefer stability to a few extra FPS.
     
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    this is my exact mentality when it comes to my laptop. that is to not be afraid to spend the extra few bucks to get something that is a highly reliable great performer.

    i'm actually thinkin about going with some SLI OC'd 680's though because this will be a desktop, and i will probably go with that Corsair Hxx water cooling kit for some extra insurance.

    appreciate the info! rep'd :)
     
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    More of the Kepler puzzle revealed. Now the GT 650M have been tested with 3DMark Vantage, both stock and overclocked :)

    ALL CREDITS GOES TO MIAOS128 FOR THESE BENCHMARKS

    Here is the 2GB DDR3 GT 650M at stock tested with 3DMark Vantage



    Here is the 2GB DDR3 GT 650M overclocked and tested with 3DMark Vantage

    ALL CREDITS GOES TO MIAOS128 FOR THESE BENCHMARKS
     
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    Damn where to get those 650m
     
  25. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    680 is better than 590 in BF3? :eek: That cannot be right?!!
     
  26. TheBluePill

    TheBluePill Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Very Welcome!

    I just built a buddy a System with 2 7970s Crossfired, (MSI Factory OC'd to 1010mhz, MSI USA ? Graphics Card - R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC ) Its quite a bit faster than the stock 925mhz (they now have a 1070mhz version). It was the same price as stock and those bad boys are SUPER solid.. Fast as can be.

    We put a Hex Core i7 in his box and 32gb of Corsair 1866 DDR3, Intel 520 SSD.. he went all out.

    Got over 46,000 In 3D Mark Vantage with no Tweeking.. Which is pretty killer IMO.
     
  27. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    how much did you pay for it bluepill (or your friend)? (curious)
     
  28. TheBluePill

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    GRRRR.. My current firewall is blocking the pix.. can you tell me the raw numbers for the 650M?
     
  29. Cloudfire

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    7683 GPU score in 3DMark Vantage with stock settings
    8437 GPU score in 3DMark Vantage with stable overclocked GPU
     
  30. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    GPU score 8437, did you read my previous post?
     
  31. gamba66

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    its okay I guess, still doesnt reach the 560m though which is at about 9000 (non-OC)

    What about the GDDR5 Version, I thought that was in the q470 Notebook?

    From the looks of it the 640m is about 5 to 15% faster than the 555m, while the 555m is stronger in DX9, the 640m owns it in dx11 (like BF3).. The 650m seems to be about 20 to 30% faster than the 555m and about 10% faster than the 640m..

    Pretty good for a Mainstream Card and lowend kepler.. but still doesnt reach the 560m
     
  32. Devenox

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    That score is pretty impressive, considering a 8800Ultra (desktop GPU) scores the same.
    Although that's a rather old card it had a 384bit GDDR3 interface with 90GB/s memory bandwidth.
    Even with a third of memory bandwidth, this card manages to get the same score!
    Realy looking forward for the GT650M GDDR5 version!
     
  33. awakeN

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    That means the 660m will definitely beat its fermi counterpart, and possibly reach to 570m levels.

    This sends shivers down my spine once I think about the 680m...

    btw, anyone heard when the 7970m is coming out?
     
  34. Cloudfire

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    The GTX 560M with GDDR5 get a P GPU score of 7802-8096. The GT 650M with DDR3 get 7600 (stock). That is pretty close imo. About 3%-7% below. 650M is already faster than GTX 460M.

    I soooo want to see how the GDDR5 version will perform. Anyone want to guess how much you gain from going from DDR3 to GDDR5?

    So far the GDDR5 version will be featured in Lenovo Y580 and HP Pavillion DV7-7000. Probably more but thats the ones I`ve heard about. Q470 will only get the DDR3
     
  35. Raficoo

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    I too anxiously await some benchmarks from the GDDR5 version so I can know what to expect when I get a new dv6(dv7 if the card won't be on the 6) :D

    right now I'm on my dv5 (with a 9600m GT lol) since 3.5 years, hopefully sooner or later I'll finally be able to play some games at medium/high :)
     
  36. gamba66

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    I think its okay, considering you can get this perfomance with a (stable) overclocked 555m.. (atleast the 144 shader version)

    I currently own a notebook with a 555m, still thinking about keeping it or selling it, but I dont think its worth getting a new one for a 5 to 30 percent perfomance increase (depends if 640m or 650m), in FPS the difference isnt that great.. although the dx11 perfomance is quite good

    The 650m does look like a good step up, but if there will be 660m notebooks under 15 inches I will be tempted :)
     
  37. Cloudfire

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    Yeah, thats one more piece missing too. Now we have seen GT 650M and GT 640M performance. Time for the 660M to reveal itself :D
     
  38. awakeN

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    Yess the 660m. decides whether i sit back calmly or go LERROOYYY JJENNNKIINNNSSS and buy an MSI 1761.
     
  39. houstoned

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    yes!!!

    can all games support multi-monitor setups? would it be better to get 1 or 2 32"-37" monitors or 3 24"-27" monitors? it'll be for pure eye candy and gaming immersion. i won't really have any other use for it. :p

    the only thing i hate is the separation in multi-monitor setups. i need to find a nice seamless bezel and some monitors with thin bezels. geez...where to start? lol
     
  40. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Here you go:

    GT650M 2GB DDR5 (Clevo W110ER add):

    3DVantage 10,500

    [​IMG]
     
  41. aduy

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    how much will this 11" clevo be?
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Thank you very much Perma, that notebook looks awesome!

    I would rather want a 13,3-14 inch notebook with exactly the same specs and I would be happy.

    I can't believe that finally notebooks are coming around that dont miss out on any of my requirements.
     
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    Well, we will have to see if the numbers are real

    Its just unbelievable that such a small notebook has such strong GPU power, the cooling must be unreal or the GPU must be super cool

    So lets wait and see if it really is as great as it sounds (because often when things sound too good to be true, they arent true xD)

    I mean the 650m with GDDR5 would even surpass the 560m quite a bit (by like 10-15%).. come on!
     
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    +reeeep

    My god that is one strong GPU. That is the P result probably right?
    GTX 560M get 9230 i P result in 3DMark Vantage. So the GT 650M score 14% better than the freaking GTX card. 35W-40W TDP GT card beating a 75W GTX card

    GTX 570M score around 11 000 points in P result with 3DMark Vantage. So WOW, the GT 650M with GDDR5 almost match that.

    Is that even possible? Holy crap

    Anyone who stil believe that the GTX 660M won`t surpass the GTX 570M? If we see two versions like GTX 460M had, 128 bit and a 192 bit, the 192 bit is going to be a beast.
     
  46. gamba66

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    Well, as I said, it sounds soo unreal, an 11.6 inch notebook with a stronger GPU than the 560m (by about 15% stronger) plus a quadcore and a 1080p screen?

    That really sounds too good to be true, lets just wait and see, instead of assuming all of this is possible (I would be very happy, because, with a 1080p screen, this would maybe be my next notebook^^)
     
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    I see it is a Clevo notebook that will have the GDDR5 version. If history repeats itself we will have benchmarks and everything out very soon.
    Our chinese friends leak out information faster than we can count to 10 lol. Boy this thread would be boring as hell without them :)
     
  48. yknyong1

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    But the problem is next round you have less people 'leaking' already... The clevo is definitely real.
     
  49. TheBluePill

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    The Desktop GTX 680 looks pretty darn Strong;

    [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah but I'm still kinda disappointed since they boasted 3-4x performance per watt over Fermi :\, it's not even 2x.
     
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