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    HURRAY: Nvidia 600 series not just Fermi!! (Kepler)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cloudfire, Mar 2, 2012.

  1. gamba66

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    agreed

    can you list some of the ultrabooks or subnotebooks with discrete graphics? only one I know of is the gigabyte one
     
    gamba66, Mar 6, 2012
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  2. TheBluePill

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    So Far from CeBit;

    Acer V3
    Acer V5
    Gigabyte P2542G

    And we have already seen from CES, Asus, Acer, MSI, Samsung.. etc.. all have discreet models too.
     
    TheBluePill, Mar 6, 2012
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  3. gamba66

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    you know which ones are 14 and 13 inch? the gigabyte P2542G is a 15.6 inch

    And you know which GPU they feature?

    The Gigabyte U2442V looks great, but I cant imagine how it has sufficient cooling or the gpu isnt downgraded.. Most likely it also has a fixed battery and who knows how powerful the batt is, otherwise it wouldnt be 20.5mm thin

    I think its quite astonishing that so many mobile notebooks with strong GPUs like the 640m are already being released, technology moves fast!
     
    gamba66, Mar 6, 2012
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    Acer V3 Specs: Acer Aspire V3 notebook hands-on (video) -- Engadget


    Acer V5 Specs: Acer launches Ultrabook-like Aspire V5 series, we go hands-on (video) -- Engadget
     
    TheBluePill, Mar 6, 2012
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    Why just 1 Usb3 ?
    Is it 2010 already ? Ooh Acer... :rolleyes:
     
    Andrew33, Mar 6, 2012
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  6. gamba66

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    GTX 660m @ Cebit 2012

    Source
     
    gamba66, Mar 6, 2012
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    That source is blocked for me.. can you give us a summary?

    Thanks
     
    TheBluePill, Mar 6, 2012
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    gamba66, Mar 6, 2012
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    They are calling the GTX 660M for a Kepler. Good.

    The reason why you see Kepler inside more and more Ultrabooks is because it is a lot more efficient than Fermi.

    Seems like 680M might stumble upon us soon too :cool:

    Kepler 256-bit, faster in DX11 games than 7970
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 6, 2012
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    I thought that we will get all the details of mobile kepler cards today!
     
    RainMan_, Mar 6, 2012
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    So i think the embargo will be lifted on March 12th with TONS of reviews of the first samples shipped around the world...
     
    SimoxTav, Mar 6, 2012
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  12. gamba66

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    Yes please! Oh man I cant wait any longer.. all these notebook keplers and no benchmark or review? what a shame
     
    gamba66, Mar 6, 2012
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  13. Cloudfire

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    Awesome. Can`t wait :D

    But where the heck is the 7900M from AMD? No leaks, nothing!
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 6, 2012
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    just a GPU-Z screen is enough for me :p
     
    long2905, Mar 6, 2012
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  15. Kevin

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    Ya'll gotta be patient. This is Day 1, so Nvidia, AMD , and Intel are only going to let information come out gradually over the week's span.

    They probably won't allow notebook manufacturers to release the full details on their CPU/GPU specification until Friday.
     
    Kevin, Mar 6, 2012
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  16. Cloudfire

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    But ehhhhh. I don`t want to wait anymore :p
    Why doesn`t anyone sneak in with GPU-Z on a USB-stick and do a quick snapshot of the machines at CeBit? And then leak it anonymously on the internet for us to find :p
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 6, 2012
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  17. gamba66

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    I would, but unfortunately I dont have the time to go to the cebit :(

    But why does noone atleast run dxdiag? idiots.. xD
     
    gamba66, Mar 6, 2012
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  18. long2905

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    first thing i check whenever i got my hand on a computer XD
     
    long2905, Mar 6, 2012
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    Shouldn't this be explained at CeBIT?
     
    jaug1337, Mar 7, 2012
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    Doesn't look like there are any actual Kepler Parts to show at CeBIT. Everything has a "Specs to be released" tag on them for the GPU.. Does not bode well.
     
    TheBluePill, Mar 7, 2012
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    ^ I considered that as a posibility.
    But if 6xx series from nvidia would be entirely a rebrand, why wouldn't many notebook manufacturers just go Amd ?
    Seems illogical for them to support such a bad move from nvidia.
    Anyway, i just keep hoping these parts will be good :p
     
    Andrew33, Mar 7, 2012
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  22. gamba66

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    Someone over at semiaccurate, maybe even charlie, said that AMD is using all their resources for their desktop GPUs, thats why they havent released any mobile GPUs.. AMD also has bad yields, but they publicly said they have enough to meet customer demands..

    I think 28nm amd gpus will take a while and also that NVIDIA probably has no real 28nm gpus, since they didnt even release a single desktop gpu..
     
    gamba66, Mar 7, 2012
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    Cloudfire, Mar 7, 2012
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    I don`t know, but he said he`ll answer all questions in that thread. :D
     
    Prema, Mar 7, 2012
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    Wow that blows! haswell and kepler for a brand new machine?
     
    long2905, Mar 7, 2012
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    Well, I dont know

    Look at this, notebookjournal.de benchmarked the 640m in gigabyte 2442 with the 640m and it reached 142.000 points

    German Source

    For example the msi ge20dx with an i5 and 555m scores 149,609 points

    Source

    Doesnt look that much stronger, although obviously the aquamark bench isnt the best choice, but 3dmark 11 supposely crashes..

    I really hope though its kepler and there is also still the 650m
     
    gamba66, Mar 7, 2012
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  29. plancy

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    Still waiting for the best, don't think I can settle for anything less than gtx 580 performance for Kepler/GCN .
     
    plancy, Mar 7, 2012
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    Right now it looks like only the absolute top-end cards are going to beat the 580m. This is probably why Nvidia went with a rebadge, they seem extremely confident that the 675m is going to beat anything AMD puts out soon, and by the time AMD has a 7990m type card Nvidia will have the 680m ready to beat it again.
     
    YodaGoneMad, Mar 7, 2012
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    oh nvm :p read it wrong
     
    plancy, Mar 7, 2012
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    and here is a GT555M scoring 121 000....
    Medion Akoya P6812 Notebook im Test Aldi-Schnäppchen mit Geforce GT 555M auf notebookjournal.de
    Wonder why?

    Its a benchmark that tell very little about GPU performance. The GT555M score you found was an 35W i5 processors capable of turboing to 3.0GHz. The GT 555M score I linked to above had an 35W i3 processor clocked at 2.2GHz, without any turbo boost. The ULV processor tested @ CeBIT is a 17W clocked at 1.7GHz. The only CPU we know of that is clocked at that frequency at stock speed is Core i5-3317U, a 17-14W CPU, capable of turboing up to 2.4GHz. A pretty weak CPU, no where near the i5 tested that reached the 149 000 points.

    You probably get my point. ;)

    We have already compared 640M to 540M and it is like 65% faster with the games tested. Pretty shure its able to trumph the 555M too. :)

    BIG NEWS!!

    KEPLER WILL HAVE TURBO BOOST

    Google Translate
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 7, 2012
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  34. plancy

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    Now all we need to know is the TDP and power consumption to see if it truly is a Kepler and a formidable refresh.
     
    plancy, Mar 7, 2012
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    I'd settle for a GPU-Z at this point. 5 days of CeBIT left, and so far I know nothing about anything.
     
    Kevin, Mar 7, 2012
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    CeBIT is March 6-10 according to CeBIT website.
     
    plancy, Mar 7, 2012
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    its the end of (manual) overclocking then. the enthusiast market keeps getting smaller.
     
    trvelbug, Mar 7, 2012
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    Hmm for some reason I've been thinking it was the 12th... don't know where I got that.

    Hopefully the secrets start coming out tomorrow then, I need some news.
     
    Kevin, Mar 7, 2012
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    Me too, all I need is news to keep me going. :)
     
    plancy, Mar 7, 2012
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    Yes because a 5-7% overclock has anything on voltage tuned properly overclocked cards :p
     
    Meaker@Sager, Mar 8, 2012
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    I don't like the way it's going. I read soemwhere that TSMC as stopped their 28nm production - causing every product but the praphics card, from AMD which were already produced for desktops, to be even more delayed.

    I have been waiting for a new notebook since october last year, first I wanted to get the LG P330 but that wasn't released in germany - now I feel like waiting this long might have been wrong

    28nm halt:
    http://semiaccurate.com/2012/03/07/tsmc-suddenly-halts-28nm-production/
     
    sancez, Mar 8, 2012
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    I got it, and I dont feel bad about it, the only thing that comes close at the cebit is the gigabyte 2442, but its a 14 inch.. also it has super specs like hd+ display and geforce 640m, but the build quality is extremely crappy.. the whole notebook is out of cheap plastic and the battery is fixed and small (up to 5 hours gigabyte says so more likely 3 to 4 hours)

    So im quite happy about my purchase.. this teached me something.. Its more about the notebook itselve then about the specs.. Of course they are important, but the best specs dont make a notebook good, its more the build quality and how the hardware works (e.g. no throttling and so on)
     
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    I don't think is trustable, if a complete production was stopped 1 month ago, at least some news about it would have published, instead the complete silence was kept. I'm not worried about :D
     
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    You are right but for the majority of users that don`t overclock, we get a GPU that is able to downclock in light load, turbo boost in high demanding games, producing less heat, drawing less power. They say Kepler will also have hyper threading.

    Looks promising.

    Now the GPU-Z of GT 650M start making sense if it is a GPU that is downclocked with the turbo boost system. And the GPixels will increase a whole lot if you stress the system so the GPU and shaders turbo boost :)

    [​IMG]
     
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    128bit DDR3, you can clock the GPU as much as you like and it wont make a blind bit of difference.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Mar 8, 2012
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  47. Cloudfire

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    Introducing the Nvidia Kepler Powertune. You can configure global settings and/or program spesific settings :cool:

    [​IMG]
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 8, 2012
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    Ah so similar to AMD.
     
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    With this Powertune you can limit the game to lets say 60FPS, if the game is an old one the GPU can downclock and the shaders because it doesn`t need all the juice to reach that FPS, Kepler also have hyper threading. Plus you get power efficient GPUs ready to perform when needed. Cooler GPU and more battery time, yes please :)

    The people who don`t have Optimus can now have some middle ground with Powertune.

    The Quadro 2000M have been overclocked up to GTX 570M performance on a 128bit bus with DD3 so it is not so bad as one might think. It have been posted somewhere in this thread
     
    Cloudfire, Mar 8, 2012
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