How To Overclock The Ati 5650?

Did the same, but it can't be found. I have a few files in the directory:
afuwinx64
amifldrv64.sys
CHKENV
flup64
Flupdate
K0300Y8.ROM
Nflash
R0300Y8.ROM
UpdTW64
WBFLASH
WBFLASH.sav

I checked both ROM files, but still no good. Used HEX Workshop as mentioned in the guide. My Radeon is definitely 450/790 MHz (CCC says so, EVEREST, GPU-Z). Still no luck, any ideas?

 

Hey guys i need help. I overclocked my Ati 5650 to 600-900 and i can play POP5 Forgotten Sands at 1600x900 without stability problem. However, the max temp of GPU is 89 C and CPU is 76 C under load. My questions are...

1. How scaring are these temps ?
2. How can I increase the speeds of CPU and GPU fans to cool them more

Thanks

 

When I unpacked my BIOS, the dump directory contains 134 files, most of which are either .rom or .bin (the vBIOS could be in either). My vBIOS was named OPROM01.rom.

It should be easy to tell which file it is, because in the hex editor it will begin with a string that looks like:

Of course yours will look a little different, but it should still be easy enough to recognize.

 

Yea, I thought also about it, but I couldn't find anything connected with Maddisson or ATI or AMD. Will do it later.

 

The Sony BIOS is odd, it doesn't have an individual 60-64kb file dedicated to the vBIOS. The only references to the Madison GPU are in the two largest BIOS files (I forget how big they are exactly, but something like 1200kb and 750kb) - and the GPU clocks are in both of them.

 

I can't find them, is it possible that the newest for VAIO E might not include vBIOS, because they didn't change anything? I will take a good look if you say both ROMs have proper values. Do I have to change the values in both files or one should be enough?

 

It does - I found them in the latest BIOS update. It's in R0300Y8. But like I said, the Sony BIOS is different, the GPU clocks are specified in two BIOS modules for some reason, rather than having one individual vBIOS module. So, I don't know.

 

OK, I'm using HEX Workshop. I'm looking right for text string - none about ATI, Madison, etc. Searching also gives me no effect. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

P.S: Which address is it, so I can find it easily.

 

Are you just using HEX Workshop on R0300Y8.ROM? You have to unpack it first using Phoenix Tool.

 

I've got Phoenix Tool 1.57, but when I run it it's called "Phoenix SLIC Mod Tool". No extraction available.

 

Yup, that's right. Just open the BIOS ROM with it, and it'll create a "DUMP" folder and unpack into there.

 

Yea, I can see now. So, two biggest files and modify them. Will do.

 

Uh, I didn't say do that. I said I didn't know. Do it at your own risk.

 

Both biggest files only got some info over GT218 NVIDIA, no info over ATI. Seems I have to search through all files

 

It's in the biggest one - the only one that's 1000kb. But like I said, the Sony BIOS is different, I have no idea if modding it is safe since it seems to be a part of the main system BIOS rather than a vBIOS module. If you want to risk bricking your system, your call. Personally I'm happy just using AMD GPU Clock Tool.

 

Changed the values. Now, how can I make one ROM from this files?

 

Recipe for success below:

Obtain the vbios to modify

1. Open your BIOS with PhoenixTool, it will do processing creating a dump directory with the bios contents.

2. Peruse the 60-64kb files in there to identify which is your VBIOS file. You may have more than one. Some manufacturers load a different bios based on system specs so try to identify the right one for yours by matching gpu and memory clocks to the files. If not sure which is which, perform the modification on all the vbios files you find.

3. Modify the vbios as recommended here. Your original stock clocks may appear more than once due to powerplay profiles using them so may need to do multiple changes. Save this file to another directory in case you want to do more mods to it later on.

Repackage your bios with the modified vbios

1. Open your BIOS with PhoenixTool, it will do processing creating a dump directory with the bios contents.

2. Select "other" in the manufacturer drop down. That will then unlock the "advanced" button.

3. Select the "Allow user to modify other modules" and "No slic" options as shown in YELLOW here. Click OK.

4. Click "go". It will again recreate the dump directory with bios contents, however this time it will pause with this screen. At this point copy your modified vbios file into the dump directory, overwriting the existing vbios file.

5. Click OK to continue. A modified bios file will be created with the name [bios]_SLIC21.bin.

6. Flash the modified bios to your system to get the new vbios clocks.

 

Works fine!
I just ran ATI CCC and it shows new clocks - 600/900 MHz. Will make stress test just for sure.

@After benchmarking/stress test

600/900 MHz clocks with 58C max under full load. Quite good I suppose.

 

I'd say that you really should have tested the clocks with a software overclocking tool before you put them in a BIOS... But regardless, congrats on getting it to work

 

hey guys, I also have the 5650, though on an acer 5740g(its volted as 1.0, i5 520m) Im using the amd gpu clock tool as well. I just want to know what software do u guys use to stress test the gpu while keeping track of the temps? Because I run 3dmark06, but I cant look at the temps simultaensly, which is what id like, anyone know how to run a stress test with a temperature display running along? Also, for more stability on the oc, should I run prime95 or maybe some other program? Cheers.

 

I will run OCCT or Furmark to stress test a GPU, 3DMark just doesn't cut it by itself. I'll only get up to around 65C in 3DMark06 or Vantage, but up to 79C with OCCT or Furmark. OCCT might be better though, as it has built-in error detection, which helps when determining memory overclock.

3DMark06 is good when initially determining max Engine Clock speeds, because it is sensitive to crashing early when it's turned up too high, but when testing for temps/memory/stress go with OCCT.

Use HWmonitor or a similar program to monitor temps.

I also usually run 2-4x threads of Prime95 on top of that to really stress out the system, as on my (and most other laptops) the CPU and GPU share the same heatsink/fan, so you need to stress both to get temps up to max and really test stability.

Here's the system that I used to determine my max stable clocks of 835/1105 for my 5730.

Put a slight overclock on the engine clocks. Run a thread or two of Prime95. Run OCCT on error checking mode. Slowly turn up the memory speed to the highest it will go and still run 10 full minutes without any artifact errors.

Then run 3DMark06 with your memory clocks set to the max you just determined, and slowly turn up engine clock speed until the max you can hit without crashing.

If you want, try turning down the memory clocks a bit to see if you can get the engine clocks higher. I found that turning the memory down to 1050 allowed me to increase my engine clocks to around 850. However, I found that 835/1105 gave me a higher 3DMark06 score than 850/1050 did.

Then run 3-4 threads of Prime95 on a quad core (and spread them out so they're running on different cores, not just hyper-threaded onto only 2 cores), or 2 threads if you're on a dual-core, and OCCT with your max clock and memory speeds. Turn down the memory clocks slowly if you get artifact errors. Turn down the engine clocks slowly if it gets too hot or crashes. Do this for about 30min. If you can without any memory artifact errors, temps exceeding 90C, crashes, or throttling, then you have your max overclock.

After that, try running a demanding game like Crysis for verification.

 

@seeker moc
agreed

 

wow, thanks for the info. Will I be likely to crash while tuning the clocks? also how long have u been running ur gpu overclockd? Also what temps are u getting with ur oc?(idle/load/stressing) and what were ur stock clocks?

 

5730 (the same chip as the 5650, just higher binned/volted) stock is 650/800 1.1v. I've never exceeded 79C GPU OCd, no matter what I throw at it. Stock was 76C, so OC didn't really increase the temps that much, and they shouldn't, unless you start messing with voltage. I'm running BIOS overclock 100% of the time, though I turned it down a bit to 800/1050 for my BIOS, to add an additional margin of safety. I still use AMD GPU Tool to turn it back up to 835/1105 when running a benchmark.

You'll crash a few times when tuning, but it's no big deal. Unlike in WinXP, Vista and 7 are able to recover from a GPU crash. All that will happen is that your screen will go blank for a second, 3DMark06 will exit, and you'll get a windows message saying that it recovered from a driver crash. Just turn down the clocks a bit and try again. There's no permanent damage from crashing like that.

 

ok, that was great help, answerd lotta questions I had, will post some results when I try that(another day).

 

Use Furmark - 3dMark isn't particularly good for stress testing because it doesn't stress the GPU for prolonged periods.

 

Hey guys, I was running prime95(small blah blah, 2 threads) along with furmark. The gpu was overclocd to 650/850. After 10 minutes the gpu temp got to 80 degrees, so the cooler sped up and then the temp got down to 76c. The cpu though got as high as 88c, so I was wondering if thats not too high... i know the games wont ever stress the cpu and the gpu together like that, but I was just wondering if those cpu temps are ok...


ps: ok, oc the core to 680 and memory to 950, then I decided to run furmark, everything went smooth, with temps of 70c average(this time I wasnt running prime95 on the background). Got 8600 with these clocks on 3dmark06.

So then, I decided, well lets see the limits of this thing lol, so I went core:730, memory:1000, then as soon as I click "ok" on the amd gpu tool, the screen freezes, and I couldnt do anything, so I had to literally unplug the thing to reboot.

After that tried setting core:690, memory:950. 3dmark06 was going alright until during cannion flight it crashed at some point.

Then again I went for core:680, memory: 950. It crashed midway the first test...

In the end I settled for core: 670, memory 900, 8460 on 3dmark06, (1 hour on furmark extreme burning mode) and got 72c as highest, average was 66c. Mind u I wasnt running prime95 on the background this time, as I thought the temperatures on the cpu were too high the other time I did that(88c as highest)... but I rly dont know. I do wonder if modding the volt to 1.1 would enable the 5650 to have similar overclocks as the 5730.

 

Your temps are fine, 80/88 aren't really anything to worry about.

Yes, the 5650 could probably get close-ish to a 5730 on the same voltage if you're lucky with chip quality, but volt modding isn't easy - good luck with that! You'd have to hex edit and re-flash the vBIOS. Temps would also be higher considering your laptop's cooling is designed around a lower voltage GPU.

 

Oh well, I suppose this is a good enough improvement considering the price I payd for the notebook. As for the volt modding Ill prolly forget about it as i don want to brick the system over a few more fps...

 

I have a 5740G and I have the GPU at 670/1050. That´s the max OC I can get without crash or freeze. 100% stable

 

Those clocks are pretty good for 1.0v. Your 5650 is now faster than a stock 5730. You could try to voltmod the vBIOS, but like Mythdat, I'd recommend against it. The increase in heat is hard for laptop cooling systems to handle, as they generally can barely handle the stock heat. 88C isn't too bad for a mobile CPU. If you start running over 90C consistently, or peak over 95C, then you have a problem. Like you said though, no game or program will stress your system like Prime95 + Furmark will, so you should be just fine.

 

I cant get the AMD tool to work.

About 2 seconds after I start it my system freezes and I have to boot up again.

Any other way to OC the 5650?

 

msi afterburner.

in the msiafterburner.cfg file in the msi afterburner folder you have to change allowunofficialoverclocking to 1 to make it work.

 

This max what I could get from my 5650, oc'ed to 720 core and 1000 memory.

3dmark06 using lower res the one that laptop supports gives me about ~8500 points.

 

Thanks to this thread i tried overclocking my 5650 on my Acer 8942g.

No problems at 700/1000, been playing with it for a few days. Got a 30" Dell monitor, connected through displayport on my laptop, so i had to overclock the 5650 to be able to use the 2560x1600 resolution in games.

Dunno if the temperature showed in the amd tool is correct, as it hits only 65C in the Furmark heat test (have to say that i have extra active cooling under the laptop).

I prefer passmark performance test to test my 5650, as its a lot shorter then 3dmark.

 

Using the same configs because someone already tested that 700/1000 is stable. Tried with OCTT and furmark, temps are about 69-72C. So anybody using 5650 should be fine with 700/1000 and those temps. Tried with active cooling, but it didn't decreased temp, because it's only one fan spinning around 800rpm.

 

I've heard it mentioned that the graphics card CAN actually be overvolted? This would be nice since Sony maxes it out at 1v and I could probably increase from 700/900 to 750/1000 if I could increase to 1.1.

 

It can be overvolted if you modify the BIOS, there is no way to do it using software tools.

 

So I'd have to actually like... solder some ?

 

No, nothing like that. There's a lot of info on the subject a few pages back, start back mid-way through page 9 and read on.

 

K cool thanks

 

Ah, I've read up. I'll only be modding the vbios after I've gotten my new parts for the computer. No point before that.

 

I overclock to 700/1000 and my temps stay under 60C. I have a HP DV7 SE. Do you guys think I could overclock it higher?

 

700/1000 is a huge overclock honestly. Maybe your clock speed could go up. I personally get unstable if I go further than like... 720 but I'm stuck at .95v

 

Yep 700/1000 is way more then i expected, and i dont want to try any further as the gfx chip is the most sensible part of a laptop... if its gone, the laptops gone. ^^

Edit: Anyone tried to overclock an core i5 on a laptop? Im looking for a tool and for
experiences from others (highest possible).

 

Yes the i5 can be overclocked but it depends on what computer you have. My i5 520m on my Sony vaio vpcec can not be overclocked =\

 

Its an Acer 8942g laptop in my case, but im not sure if this makes sense... overheat wouldnt be good for the laptop, wouldnt it?

 

Hey, i want to try bios modding especially for ati hd 5650 gpu voltage (to beat oc record).
Whats going on if my modded bios is wrong ??
Is there any bios recovery solution for sony vaio e series ??

thanks very much..
best regards..

 

I did 700 / 1000 on my Dv6 and the laptop froze and fan went nuts. I'm stable on 700 / 850 though
Havn't tried going any more as yet because I havn't had time.

 

I was 700/900 and I played mass effect 2 max settings for a few hours with no fragments.