How To Overclock The Ati 5650?

Quick question.

The 5650 is rated between 450-650 mhz, at 650mhz, its pretty much a 5730. If you chip can go to 650 mhz safely, does that mean it can OC to 5730 levels?

 

Not necessarily. 5650's are binned lower than 5730s because they're usually less stable. Soemtimes they're binned lower purely because more people want them.

 

Okay interesting, so my 5650 could indeed be a binned 5730 which means if im lucky, its just as stable at the same speeds?

 

Yes, and you could have gotten a binned 5730 that's stable at even higher speeds. The 5730's memory is at 800 so the fact taht most of us get to 900 shows taht we can get higher than a stock 5730.

 

My 5650 in the dell studio 17, is stable as a rock @ 700/900

 

The main difference is the binning, and that the 5730 is 1.1v, where the 5650 is 1.0v (or 0.9v for some unlucky Sony/HP customers). I've ran my 5730 90% stable at 850/1100, and 100% stable at 835/1100, though I don't keep it clocked that high on a regular basis.

 

This is not fair for Sony VAIO owners.
I am shocked at first time I know that the gpu voltage is locked at 0.95v.

 

Why? lol our 5650's use less energy and still overclock higher than a graphics card that's right above ours.

 

They use less voltage, but because of that they WON'T clock as high. More voltage = more stability at higher clocks. Most, but not all, can get a 5650 up to stock 5730 clocks at 1.0v, but a 5730 could undervolt just as easy. They don't overclock higher though. There's no way you'll get a 5650 up to 850/1100 without going up to 1.1v, if they can even hit that high at all.

 

True, you could just undervolt the 5730 for the same effect. I'm not saying it's good but at least we can overclock.

 

Hey guys, how will I know if my clocks are stable for this gpu when overclocking ?

 

If it crashes, has artifacts, or overheats, it's not stable.

 

Question on voltmodding.

Is it possible to simply change the vbios to ALLOW for voltmodding, like through gputool?

I like being able to go down to .9 when I'm not playing a game... so is there any way to have both?

 

Thanks for the info. But just some questions, how long will my gpu going to last if I continue to overclock ? Will it still harm the gpu anyway if I overclock but able to keep the temperatures cool ?

 

As long as your temps aren't regularly over 80, or peak over the high 80s, you won't cause any permanent damage.

 

thanks again seeker_moc

 

Use OCCT to test for errors. Find a cool place in the house, select error checking, and see if it'll pass an hour. Keep an eye on your temps the whole time. I usually watch a show in a window next to the test window.

Overclocking without any actual stress testing is a bad idea. Like overclocking a CPU: just because it boots and doesn't crash all the time, doesn't mean it isn't spitting out errors under heavy load.

 

Yes, very true. You should always stress test.

Danny: for methodology, look through the older posts on this thread, there's a lot of good info. Here's what I do: http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...-how-overclock-ati-5650-a-13.html#post6801987

 

Im new to this OCCT tool.. can you explain how it works ?

 

Ok guys. Here is what I did.

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1. Open OCCT

2. Tick the Error Check option on the GPU OCCT section

3. Click the on button

4. Overclock gpu using AMD GPU Tool

5. Open HWinfo to monitor GPU temps

6. Check whether there are any errors on GPU OCCT while on overclocked(amd gpu tool) within time limit (1hour).
If there are 0 errors for that hour, means my gpu is considered stable for how much I've overclocked.

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So..... am I on the right track ?

 

Yes. Though I'd also run something to stress your CPU as well, like 1 or 2 threads of Prime95, because laptops generally share one cooling system with both the CPU and GPU. By stressing both, you'll get the heat up to a higher level, and your stress testing will be more thorough.

 

Hmmm... Can I use wPrime instead ? or OCCT ?

So, do I like repeat the same procedure like I mentioned just now but now with running the cpu stress tool ?

If this is the case, I'm guessing that heat is the factor for bringing up artifacts or errors in the OCCT ?

 

>_> still this

Not voltmodding if I can't.

 

Does anyone know why the fan on my 5650 never goes above 30%? Even at >80 degrees C it's still at 30 percent :/

Thanks

 

Mine also does that. However, once my GPU hits 80C the fan kicks up dropping it below the 80C mark.

 

I've never had my GPU hit 80C haha, and never had it pass 30% Fan speed.

 

I guess most laptops don't have sensors for the fan speed, so the monitoring programs always show 30%. It's always 30% for my 2 laptops - one with 260m GTX and the other with 4650, according to GPU Z. In reality it probably reaches 70-80%.

 

How can you get such high temps? I never go higher then 60c.

And that with overclocking it.

 

My 5650 reaches 75~ degrees at stock clock speed 550/800. I overclocked at 650/1000 and the temperature got up to 86 degrees before I stopped the benchmark I was running.

 

Sony VAIO E series ATI Mobility HD 5650 benchmark / overclock / undervolted

Hey guys,
I got 15246 mark points on 3D Mark 2005 with GPU_Clock/Memory_Clock 625/965.
Check this out :
- yadieet's 15246 marks 3DMark05 run with Mobility Radeon HD 5650 @ 625/965MHz
- HWBOT Hall Of Fame.

Only with 625/965 (because of undervolted) I can reach 15K points.
Please see other notebook..

 

So has anyone overvolted with vbios?

 

Hey guys

What is the stock voltage for the 5740 5650? mine is 1v. I thought it was stock @ 0.9v

With mine being @ 1v this is obviously why when i overclock to say 650/850 the temps idle higher and at full load the temps are around 84-86?

What is the safest OC for a 0.9v 5650m card? from experience?

 

Every chip is different, unless heat is a problem its whatever the chip is stable at.

 

How long do you guys think the this 5650 is going to last ? in terms of lifespan

 

It seems to be a rather popular GPU, but as of now you can play most multiplat titles on High settings with 2x AA at 720p very comfortably. Other games that look significantly better on PC such as Dirt 2 and Just Cause 2 will look way better than playing them console rather than just a bit cleaner.

 

I have a downclocked 450 mhz hd 5650..
I overclocked it first to 666/1050 game crashed

then I tried 600/9050 it worked but the game got slower
Any change makes the game slower... I dont understand why even if I make the clocks 451/801 everything gets slower and incredible fps drop...
unclocked it performs ok but.... 450mhz... you know what I mean

 

Im just guessing here that u didnt change the v from 0.9 to 1.0? also 1050 for memory is too high anyway, aim for 650ish clock, and 850-900sh memory? It dewpends on the chip though, but ull need the voltage increase to play with it.

 

I was making a mistake now all is settled...

I wrote this in shortcut
"C:\Program Files (x86)\AMD GPU Clock Tool\AMDGPUClockTool.exe" -eng=580-mem=990

so there was no space between memory clock and core clock..

the core clock was increasing however by mistake I downclocked the memory to default...

By the way how can I increase voltage from 0.9 to 1.0 ? I checked the forum but could not find the exact part and is it risky ? Well actually I would like to do that and have a default core speed of 550... I could never know I would come up with a downclocked video card... I bought I laptop first time and this happens to me.. but good to see you guys that we can fix it..

And another question... GPU-z says that my hd 5650 is using pcie x 16 1.1 instead of 2.0

I have a dell laptop and a hm57 intel chipset with arrandale cpu

I would be glad if you answer these questions..

Thanks

Edit: AMD overclocking tool says the voltage is 0.95.. by default it seems... but there in that tool is no way to bring voltage to 1.00

 

Why does everyone use the AMD GPU clock tool? It lowers the GPU lifespan since the things are constantly overclocked and maintain higher temperatures.


Use MSI Afterburner instead for OC instead, and set "2D clocks" to 550/800 (default), and the GPU clocks will drop down to 100/150 (only happens if clock is 550/800 default) whenever you're not gaming, thus allowing cooler laptop and longer GPU lifespan.

 

Hi,

I bought a Lenovo Y460 during the black friday sale and have been playing around with the GPU clocks on it. BFBC2 and particularly Crysis Warhead run much smoother at my settings of choice with 5730 clocks than they do at the stock 5650 clocks, and as far as I can tell the 5730 clocks (650/850) seem to be 100% stable on my system with temps that never break 80. I am very happy with the performance of my laptop running these clocks, however I find that it is such a hassle keeping them active.

I also take this laptop to 3-hour classes at least once a week, so at times I need the 4+ hours of battery life the switchable graphics provide. However, when I go back to the 5650 after running on the IGP, the clocks automatically reset themselves to the default 550/800 and no matter what I do in Afterburner, I cannot reset them back to my overclocked values without rebooting the entire system. Obviously, this is quite annoying for me to have to do this every time I want to game after class.

Is there any way (perhaps with AMD Gpu Clock Tool, which I have not experimented with yet) to have the overclock stay in effect even after I switch to the IGP and back? Alternatively, I was reading that there is a way to flash the VBIOS to make the overclock permanent. Is the procedure outlined in the HP Envy thread the same one I would follow to do this on my Y460?

 

Thanks very much for this. What I'm really interested in though is raising the max voltage. It's only .95 under load... and I know I can voltmod but won't voltmodding keep it up 100% of the time, not just under load?

What I'm really asking is... is there any way to up the MAX voltage? And maybe even lower the min as well =p

 

Not unless you want the GPU to deteriorate in a matter of months.

Just stick with normal voltage overclocking. The 5650 chip runs hot as it is.

 

What is the maximum temperature that doesn't shorten the life of the card?
I have clocks 640/850 and temperature on furmark is 61C.

 

Anything under 80 is probably fine. 61 is "cool" as far as things go.

 

Is there any way to get MSI afterburner to overlock the core to more than 715 Mhz? My card runs perfectly fine at 770Mhz using the AMD GPU clock tool, but the slider on afterburner will only physically go to 715.

 

As long as it's not running over the low 80s on a regular basis, and it doesn't peak above 90, you should be fine.

 

You can set it to maximum on the OC bar, apply, then quit MSIAB, then reopen MSIAB, and you'll be able to OC further.

But then you won't be able to set 2D clock at default 550/800 AFAIK.

 

Also, what's sweet is MSI AB has a hotkey system, personally I set default clock to Alt+F2, and 715/1025 OC to Alt+F1. This way even if the AB automatic detection doesn't work, I can do Alt+F1 just to force it, and the other way around too.

Edit: yeah, the fault with MSI Afterburner is, if you run something else that uses java (e.g. in my case, JDownloader), the MSI AB automatic detection/overclocking doesn't work, and I'd have to use the hotkey ingame or before opening a game to toggle up the clocks. However even that is quite convenient, and many times better than a static overclock like GPU OC Tool.

 

Wow, you can OC yours to 1025 Mhz for the memory? Mine will only go up to about 970 before I start to see artifacts. For some reason i can get the core up to at least 770 Mhz before I get issues.

 

Hehe Mjolner, my core doesn't go up so high (it's unstable half the time at 750 mhz).

Maybe my core can go up high too, if I lower the mem? Do the two have any relation or are they entirely independent of each other when you overclock?