How To Overclock The Ati 5650?

I haven't done a proper investigation isolating the two, but I have always thought that they were essentially completely independent except for the fact that they share the same cooling system, and I doubt the memory being overclocked would make the core so hot that it was unstable, but I'm not entirely sure.

 

They're slightly related, but only when you get close to max. For example, I'm stable to either 835/1105 or 850/1050 (though 835/1105 benches higher).

 

Well I just bricked my laptop trying to overclock my VBIOS... first attempt didn't do anything, second attempt made it run in VGA mode, when I tried to restore the factory BIOS the whole machine bricked. How much is this going to cost my dumb to get fixed?

 

Eek! It'll probably cost at least a good fraction of the laptop cost to fix it bro.

This is why I think there's no point in risky overclocking (VBIOS) of laptop GPUs, the gain is minimal if any (maybe a +0.5 fps boost in some benchmarks?), which would be repressed by the increased heat anyhow. And there's that.

CPU overclocking, on the other hand....if only.

 

The gain is zero, actually - as mentioned on the last page, you can achieve exactly the same just with MSI Afterburner/AMD GPU Clock Tool and one hotkey keypress.

 

I havent even seen anything with the vbios, im saddened for you syberia(we got the same black friday deal on this machine). My system out of the box scored 7645 or so in 3dmark06. I was very satisfied, I also just got done playing team fortress 2, wow it looks amazing on this lenovo ideapad y460. Thumbs up here!

 

Is it true that furmark loads gpu more than any other software or game on earth, when using native resolution without MSAA and without xtreme burning mode?

By the way, what does the xtreme burning mode do different for normal mode?

My card crashed after 8 minutes of furmark stability test on native (1600x900) resolution and no MSAA or xtreme bm used. Clocks were 700/900.

 

Naw you use furmark not to test stability but to test thermal limits after an overclock.. run it with intelburn at the same time (pushes CPU) and see how hot your CPU-GPU get, this shows if your overclock is too high or if there's still leeway for it.

If you want to see if an overclock is stable, play a few intensive games e.g. Crysis for like 15 minutes. I mean, for my card, 740/1025 is entirely stable in Furmark (ran it for an hour, and only got to 80 C and dropped after), but crashes in several intensive games usually within the first 2 minutes.

 

Ok, temps was only 63C when crashed and card didn't restored for desktop. I needed to reboot.

One more question: If I break my card by overclocking, do the service notice that it was overclocked? I never save profiles on MSIAB and overclocks are not added as system startup.

 

If you monitor your temperatures, you won't break anything. "If you do," run it on integrated graphics and use the recovery discs before you send it back.

 

You can blind flash your BIOS to recover it, I've done it before, it's not really a big deal, you just need the tools. I have the BIOS crisis tool for a Phoenix BIOS if that's what you have. You'll just need the tool, a working 32-bit windows machine to set it up, a USB stick, and a clean .rom or .wph BIOS to flash. Let me know if Phoenix works for you.

 

Is there a guide or anything of how to do that? I have a 32-bit XP netbook I can use, but everything else has been migrated to 64-bit. Yes it's a phoenix BIOS.

 

The guide can be found here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/dell-xps-studio-xps/451601-bricked-xps-1645-help.html

The link for the tool in the guide is invalid, though you can grab it here instead http://dev.phoenix-consultancy.nl/dell/20100327_Dell_Studio_XPS_Bios_Tools.zip

It comes with the Dell XPS BIOS, but just delete it and replace it with yours.

 

Ah, so by "tool" you mean program. I was thinking of some sort of franken-contraption I'd have to attach to a couple of leads on my motherboard like flashing an XBox 360

Will this still work if my laptop does nothing, by which I mean no lights even turn on when I press the power button? And the battery light is dark even when it's plugged into the wall.

 

When mine bricked, it was also completely unresponsive, and this tool fixed it. I can't promise you it will work, but it's worth a try.

 

Anything is worth a try, it's not like it can be any more broken than it is right now!

On a side note, I purchased a refurb. Y560 from the Lenovo Outlet this morning for just a hair over $700 with the i7 quad/5730 (and I actually found the 14" screen of my Y460 to be uncomfortably small). If/when I repair the Y460, I'll be selling it to recoup most of that price (or selling it to the brother-in-law at a highly discounted price if he wants it).

 

Any luck with fixing it?

 

No, nothing happened when I tried the fix. The light on my flash drive didn't even blink.

 

How do I set up hotkeys with AMD GPU Clock Tool? Or do I need MSI afterburner?

And if I do need MSI, does anyone have a link to it?

 

?????? I assume it's still under warranty, just call Lenovo and have them replace the motherboard. Tell them that it bricked when you were upgrading the BIOS, which is what happened.

 

Only MSI has hotkeys + autodetect over/downclocking.

You know, googling "msi afterburner" and clicking the first result works

Also, it has very simple GUI and you should be able to have everything set up in a few minutes after installation.

 

Indeed. In fact, the brick occurred when I was restoring their BIOS, not any of my hack attempts.

Unfortunately, I cannot call Lenovo until Saturday because I work during the hours they're open, and even if I call during my lunch I'm sure they'd want me to have the laptop in front of my so I could mindlessly go through a bunch of "repair" steps that I already know aren't going to work.

 

I wasn't sure if it was like the ATI GPU clock tool where googling sure wouldn't be enough =p afteral you need to use it with the 5870 version.

Thanks.

edit: MSI afterburner won't let me OC? >_>

edit2: OK I edited the .cfg file, it's letting me OC my Memory to 900 but my core clock won't pass 585.

 

Yeah that's the only downside to this tool...by default it doesn't let you freely OC past a limit.

How much can your GPU safely overclock HungryMan? If it's not too far off from the slider cap in the MSI tool then it's not that debilitating.

(Btw you can actually OC it past the slider limit...just drag slider to the limit, apply, close the tool, reopen the tool, and voila)

 

I have a quick question... I have a sony vaio eb with the 5650m. I am overclocking my card and tried 600-850 and ran occt with error check and prime95 with two threads. OCCT ran fine for 1 hr and then I left and came back about 30 minutes later have 485 errors. The prime95 program has not found any problems. Does that mean I should lower my clocking? The max temperature was 74 C.

 

I can OC 690/900 so 580 is a big different.

Thanks for the tip, I'm just stickin to ATI clock tool for now since I rarely have to overclock anyway.

 

Strange, with my laptop I was able to set the 3D overclock setting to 715/1025, and still have the 2D clocks at 550/800.

 

Hi!
anybody know something abot Dell Inspiron R15 with Core i5 460M and Mobility Radeon 5650 is a good choice for overclocking the VGA or is it undervolted, underclocked?

 

Or Acer Aspire 5552g with Phenom II N850 and 5650? what is the better choice?

 

The Intel chips are WAY faster than the AMD ones, go with the Dell. As far as I know, only Sony and HP Envy have the undervolted 5650s.

 

i think in the dell the vga core clock is 450Mhz

 

I bought a dell inspiron r15 with i3 and mobility radeon 5650 what is undervolted to 0.950. I tried to overclock it with amd gpu clock tool and it works fine, but when i restart the machine the clock set back to default(450, 800). i use WIN 7 64bit

 

The AMD GPU clock tool isn't permanent. You have to run the program every time you restart the computer (or you could add it to your startup folder).

 

one more thing. After i change the clocks the gpu-z show the tuned values but the CCC shows the default clocks. what is the best tune program what is permanent?

 

The only thing that is 'permanent' is to OC by modifying the BIOS.

 

hmmm and if i just overclock the gpu when i gaming (with amd gpu clock tool), will it cause any permanent damage on the gpu? i have my card limits: core:625Mhz memo:950Mhz and i tested it with furmark and the max temperature was 75degrees. Is it good temperature?

 

As long at you don't increase the voltage (which you can only do by modding the BIOS, so this shouldn't affect you) and your temps don't exceed 90C for an extended duration, it's nearly impossible to cause any permanent damage, regardless of how high you set your clocks.

 

and will it cause any damage if i change the clocks many times a day?

 

No. Your card is already changing clocks depending on usage, and your CPU does this even more frequently.

 

so..do someone know about the optimal clock's for the HD5650 ?

 

Define optimal clocks. I'd consider optimal clocks to be as high as you can get them while remaining stable and cool. This will be different for each individual laptop. The only way to figure that out would be to thoroughly test your chip, and determine the 'optimal clocks' for yourself.

 

core clock: 600Mhz and Memory clock: 1100 with overclock. Is it a good value for the memo? not too high? 75 degree while gaming.....

 

Yeah, 1100 is good, but I wouldn't push it past that, it seems to be the max for most people. If you haven't tried it yet, run the OCCT stability testing program with error detection enabled. If you start getting artifact errors in under 15 min of testing, then your mem clocks are too high.

If your temps are that low, and you're running stable, you could probably turn the core clocks up a bit more.

 

680 900 are my most stable clocks. I don't think I could really see much improvement from overvolting to 1100.

I wish there were bios mods though.

 

OCCT test complete without errors

 

BIOS mods are fairly easy to do for the Dells. I haven't tried for a Sony, but I think the process should be very similar, as I'm pretty sure they also use Phoenix BIOSes. If you send me a link to the BIOS you'd like modded, I'll take a look at it, but I can't promise anything.

 

Cool. You could try boosting your core clocks up to 625 or 650 and see if they're still stable. If your temps exceed 80C in Furmark or OCCT then you're probably near/at your limit.

 

now if i boost up the clocks higher and start the occt then i get very much errors......

 

600/800 for me are enough

 

but if I test it with furmark stability tester, everything is okay.......a tested it in 17 minutes