How To Overclock The Ati 5650?

FurMark is better for heat/temp testing, but OCCT is much more sensitive to errors. If you're going for 100% stable, and you're getting OCCT errors when turning it up higher, then leave it at 600/1100, those are still pretty decent clocks for a 5650.

 

I believe the issue has to do with Phoenix Tool.

How do I link yout o the bios?

Sony eSupport - VPCEC290X - Software Updates & Drivers
That's got the updater.

 

Yeah, not a Phoenix BIOS. Do you happen to know what it is (Award, AMI, etc)?

 

This is weird. I've only OC'd a little (550/800 to 600/800), and OCCT doesn't report any errors, yet when I try to run FurMark or 3Dmark11, the driver crashes. Any idea what could be going on?

 

That is weird, it takes alot to get FurMark to crash, though the 3DMark series of benchmarks crash quite lightly if your core clocks are too high. It might be something else. Have you applied the latest patch to 3DMark11, have the newest direct from AMD drivers (10.12), updated all your C++ runtime libraries??

 

Sadly, I can't get 10.12 since it seems that HP abandoned the dv6tse's AMD driver after 10.10. -_- I updated 3DMark11 before the test. I guess all that's left is to see if the C++ is updated...

EDIT: THERE we go! I didn't run OCCT long enough. It just crashed after running for 45 minutes. I guess this one just can't be OC'd. Oh well.

 

I've tried 750/1100 on mine and it was stable...I have it automatically OC to 715/1040 (3D profile for MSI afterburner) though because I want the powerplay to still be there when I'm not gaming.

 

If i get 3 errors with OCCT (GPU stability test) in 30 minutes is a big problem or the 3 error is normal?

 

For stability you don't want any errors, zero.

 

3 in 30 isn't bad though, you should only have to turn it down by 5MHz to get it error free. You'd have hundreds of errors if you were 50MHz or so over max.

 

I still don't understand why I don't get any errors when I OC, and yet the driver becomes unstable.

Maybe my version of the AMD GPU Clock Tool is out of date. What's the current version?

 

The version shouldn't make a difference. Usually, errors (as in artifacts) are mem clocks too high, and unstability is core clocks too high. It's possible that you can overclock your mem a bit, but your GPU just won't OC. It sucks, but it happens.

 

Well, that's just my luck I guess. lol

 

That is a really impressive memory clock; mine starts artifacting around 980 Mhz (although I can get the core up past 770 with no issues). The one major weakness of the 5650 is the lack of memory bandwidth. I wish I could alleviate that a little with an 1100 mhz memory clock...

 

You're' getting 980mhz with what voltage? I've got a Sony so there's just no way I can get beyond 900mhz

I can do 700/900 but I leave it at 680/900 because there are only going to be minimal improvements and I don't feel like pushing it to the very very limit.

 

I've OC'd my memory to 930MHz so far with no issues at all. ;

... 970, however, results in 4000 errors after just a few seconds.

 

I can ran Benchmarks on 725/975 but in games it Blackscreens after 10 to 30 minute,s, so I ran it on 670/975 and this Woks Perfect for me.

 

Even an upgrade from 800 to 930 mem should give some performance improvement. The GPU might be mem bandwidth limited to an extent. It's best if you can increase both, but I've found that MHz for MHz, mem increases do more for benchmark scores.

 

Still higher than stock 5730 clocks.

 

Well, that OC added ~35 to my 3DMark11 score, so I'm sure it did something.

I seem to be fine up until around 950MHz, which isn't bad imo.

 

if i change voltage (vBIOS mod) to 1.000v will i get much more temperature?
Now the max temp is 75degree with tuning and 100%GPU usage (undervolted 5651). I want more core clock because now it can only 600Mhz. About 700Mhz will much better.......

 

Hey guys just thought i add something to this thread. I got the 5650 1GB DDR3.

Out of box i got 6556 3Dmark score.

My usuall overclockign schme is 700/925. Im new to ati's. I have been with nvidia for over 10 years and there is so much tweaking that can be done there so i mcurious if there is somehting for ati's as well.

My question to you , the highest reported temperature under load "Crysis" for hours of play i got is 68.5 celsius. Is it safe to overclockg further with ati ? Also is there other tweaks that i should do. I did slide most stuff to performace in ati catalyst but i heard of some other software like ati tweaker or something is it worth downloading?

Thanks and all the best

 

Measure max temps with something like FurMark or OCCT. Even if a game is demanding, it doesn't have the constant level of 100% stress that you want for testing. That said, 68.5 leaves you at least 20C of room to play with. You'll probably hit instability and artifacts before you hit the thermal limit with the 5650, unless you start overvolting.

 

For a 0.05v increase, probably not much, but there's no way to know for sure unless you test it out. I doubt it will bump you from 75 all the way to 85, so it should be safe enough to try at least. Not many people overvolt mobile cards, so there's not a lot of experience to draw from.

 

My Envy 14 (stock, aside from i5-580 and 6gigs of ram) should be arriving soon. I'm wondering what program I should use to overclock (AMD GPU Tool from Guru3D still the best?) / what settings should I overclock it to? I would like to overclock to be safe and stable. I won't want to damage my hardware.

Lastly, if there's hardware damage, can HP tell that I overclocked my GPU, thus voiding the warranty?

 

As long as they are not able to access your hard drive and see you have graphic-enhancing software that can overclock, you can get away with it, saying it fried itself. Then again, there is no guarantees that you can always slide out of such a situation and some snoopy techs can tell if the particular damage patterns is from an overclock or it really did commit suicide.

Also, having a modded BIOS while it died and not finding a way to flash it back to a HP-Sourced BIOS can spell violation of warranty. Techs can easily see BIOS modifications more than just finding overclocking software. Then again, I have YET found anymore able to mod an Insyde EFI HP uses.

 

Perfect

I only tested using hardware monitor. Crysis usually servers as a good benchmark point as 3dmark doesnt necessarily means higher score = higher fps. But i will give furmark test.

On another note nvidia cards can be moded lots of times with rivatuner and other registry tweakign programs. Is there anything similar for ati 5650 ? ANy setting you guys recommend ?

Thanks for the info / tip Seeker +1 rep !

Also i should add that i am usign a 3 fan cooling pad and my laptop is lifted at the back side for better airflow, only hooked up on external power "battery is removed" (i dont cary this 18 inch beast around) ...

 

I was able to mod a Toshiba Insyde EFI BIOS for GPU OC, I don't think a HP one would be much different. The guy I made it for was too cautious to actually flash it, so I have no way of knowing if it worked or not, but I don't see why it wouldn't.

Also, I highly doubt a tech is going to be able to tell if the BIOS is modded. If Windows won't boot, they have no way of telling what your GPU clocks are, and if it's straight up bricked, then they'll just replace the motherboard. Just tell them the laptop bricked while flashing to a newer 'official' BIOS.

 

AMD GPU Clock Tool is the only one I know of that works with the 5650 without some kind of mod. Also, I have my 5730 OCd from 650/800 to what you see in my sig. I don't have any external cooling, and my GPU temp never exceeds 80C with FurMark, or low-mid 70s with Crysis Warhead. Overclocking doesn't seem to heat up the 5600/5700 series GPUs more than a few degrees.

 

Looks like there is a lot of potential ! I will report back once i get some testing done. IN the meanwhile anyone knows of any tweakign software for ati cards ?

 

Besides AMD Clock Tool? MSI Afterburner is the only other one that comes to mind. Unless you want to permanent OC by modifying and flashing the vBIOS.

 

Thanks for the info. I was actually askign if there is any registry related software where you can tweak like textures performance etc ... I know for nvidia i used for long time RivaTuner, i wonder if there is something similar for ATI cards ... ?

 

Does anyone know if you can just unlock voltage in the vBios? What I'd like to be able to do is have it change depending on use... I definitely don't want it permanently at 1.1v or something.

 

hi guys...i read all this thread because on my laptop i have some problem with o.c...my pc is a hp 3013sl(i7 720qm,5650 4gb blablabla)...the 5650 have some problem because my stock voltage is 1.00v(normal) when the frequences are in high 3d power...my maximum overclock is 650/660 for core...i not know for now the mem because another guy with my same pc can overclock it to 750/950...i set the same and crash immediatly...is strange i dont know the why i not can set 700mhz or something(the ac power of this lappy is a big 120w)

 

You are just less lucky and got a less resilient 5650. Some people aren't able to push core clocks past 620 and others got it past 800, it's all luck. This is because each chip is made uniquely and has its own (unofficial) overclocking capacity.

 

My 5650 for example does perfectly fine at 770-780, but my memory won't go much past 970, while others have gotten theirs over 1000 despite not being able to match my core clock. Its luck; its how overclocking works. There are no guarantees.

 

mmm probablu...but is strange(i think is a bios protect from hp)...for my lucky this little beast can go all games in 1366x768 high/maxed,in most games with 2x AA @30fps or more...my problem would be the future games(i know good the o.c in lappy...my old lappy have a nvidia 8400 that i softmodded to 8600m @666/544...in games + 40% boost)

 

Can someone provide a link for AMD clock tool? I put it into google and the only program that shows up it from Guru 3D, but the tool is for 5870. I've tried installing the program, but upon execution it says supported device not found.

Thanks

 

That should be the one you need. It's the one we're all using. With your 3870, maybe you should look at the 3560 overclocking thread, the info there might be more applicable. http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...-overclocking-mobility-hd3650-mini-guide.html

 

guys in future you can help me with mod the videobios and increase the voltage to 1.1??i think the problem is the voltage on my 5650...i say this because on the old thread for 3650 was the same as mine...

 

What brand of BIOS does your laptop use? Go into the BIOS settings screen at boot-up, and it should say something like Phoenix, Insyde, AMI, Award, etc...

 

the brand is Insyde (f07 version)

 

Send me a link to the BIOS, and the clocks you want.

 

this is the only that the hp pages of my pc have:

Aggiornamento del BIOS di sistema per HP Notebook (processori Intel) Entertainment Notebook HP Pavilion dv6-3013sl - Assistenza Tecnica HP (Italia - Italiano)

i hope this is the right file

i want only the 1.1volt mod for the 5650...i prefer set the clock via software for security hihih

 

any news about bios?

 

Sorry, I lost track of this page. The tool I use wouldn't recognize it as an Insyde BIOS, even though it obviously is. I've used the same tool to mod a Toshiba Insyde EFI BIOS before, so I know it works. Maybe it's true, like somebody mentioned before, that HP locks it somehow. I'm going to write the creator of the tool and ask him if he knows why it doesn't work, but for now we're SOL.

 

ok understand !!...but why the most famous overclock programs not can make the volt modding?

man i see a special case...in my old note i have a nvidia 8400m(and the max overclock was 550 by 450mhz stock...next it crash)...i have modded muuuch time ago to 8600m gs with riva tuner softmod...with this i can overclock it to 666 of core!!!!!!...now probably this can be the driver that set automatically the voltage with other setting!!!!...

not is a way to soft mod the 5650 to 5730 with rivatuner or other???

 

I have an HP DV6 3077 i can get it to 750 and 950 anything above that I get a bit of artifacts, if i go way over i get shut down. what can I do to get this higher?

 

Just one quick question. Does overclocking the GPU really voids the warranty of your notebook ?

 

Nothing. You've hit your card's limit. Not all GPUs have the same potential. I can't OC my core at all...