How To Overclock The Ati 5650?

I would add that OCing would only void your warranty if:

1. (like mentioned above) they know you did it, and
2. they can prove that the OC is what broke your laptop

So basically, even if they know you were OCing, and the HDD failed, it would still be covered, because it has nothing to do with the OC. If your GPU overheated and fried, then they'd still have to prove that you were OCing, which is hard to do. Be careful and you'll have no issues.

 

guys with ati tray tools is possible to modify the vcore...this work on the 5650?

 

Hi , i have an Dell N5010 Alloy edition . I like it very much ... i don't have any problem with games , i try some demanding games like crysis , metro 2088 , battleforge and they all worked super .I recently read this forum and for curiosity i oc my video card with amdgpuclocktool ( i have to mention that Dell downclocked the cards core to 450 , the mem frec. is 800 which is stock, and they undervolt it to 0,950v for it's highest frecs and 0.900v for power saving mode)As i was saying i oc the cards core from 450 to 700 and the mem. frec from 800 to 1000 , i test it and is working like a charm , no overheating, artifacts. i think i could go further with the oc .... maybe 710-720 mayb more .... i didn;t try more because i don;t want to dmg the card. anything that may help me more with oc better is welcome .

 

They don't have to know that OCing broke it. If you OC, break your computer, and they know you OC (somehow) they will consider your warranty void anyway.

 

Not true. There are consumer protection laws. Say you buy a new car, but you replace the exhaust with an aftermarket one. The next week, the engine breaks. The auto manufacturer can't void the warranty on your engine unless they can prove that the aftermarket exhaust was the main reason the engine broke. It's the same way with a computer. They can't refuse to replace your broken CPU or HDD or keyboard, etc, just because you overclocked the GPU, unless they can prove that your OC is what broke it. They may try to make it difficult for you, to try to get you to give up, but they will have to fix it in the end. Now if the GPU that you're overclocking fries, that's another story.

 

Magnussen-Moss Warranty Act is the law you're looking for, I believe. It basically states that if your modification didn't break it, the warranty isn't void.

Of course, that doesn't stop a company from refusing to honor the warranty anyways, so that you're forced to spend more than the cost of repair to take them to court over it.

 

I know there are consumer protection laws but companies will look for any excuse.

For example if you root an android phone and then you get an issue with the trackball they'll blame it on the root, even though there's no reason that root would cause it.

In an extreme case like dropping it I was just using an example but they probably would have no way to connect them. If your monitor stops working and they find out they will try to connect them to each other (if they find out) because it's going to cost you more money.

 

Hi all!
I've a Toshiba Satellite L650-116 with mobility radeon hd5650 and i5 430m.
Is it possible to mod his Insyde H2O bios to enable vga switching with the Intel's one integrated in the cpu?
I've tried EzH2O but it gives me an FD error and can't open the bios.
This is the link to my laptop's bios: here
Thx in advance and sorry for my poor english (i'm italian)

 

now i know the limits of my 5650...i test it with furmark...670mhz stable core(665 for safe)and 950+ memory...now i try it with 3dmark06...with furmark when i set 680 on core it crash after a couple of seconds...i continue to think that is a voltage bottleneck and this baby can go much higher...i tested ati tray tools but unfortunatle this is not supported because cause on my sistem bsod

EDIT.
3dmark06 test=8670 points...but i have to reduce the core to 660 and mem to 900...with 670/950 the driver stop working on the last test of 3dmark!...with vmod i think this card can reach the 9500/10k

 

I stick to 680 and 890. I wish I could get that 890 up but oh well.

I'm very satisfied with its performance.

 

yeah i very satisfied sure...my old baby with 8400m with superoverclock make 3dmark on ty 1600 points buahahahahahah...this little beast is by far the best medium class gpu at the moment(or 6550 that is the same gpu)...and i think in future we can overclock it more and more ...in any case with stock 5650 ALL games go in high/max details at 1366x768/1270x720(with 2/4x AA)...and this is excellent...i hope just it go in this way at the launch of ps4/xbox 720

 

I cant get amd clock tool to work now that i upgraded my drivers to 11.2 msi afterburner never worked for me either.

 

yuo have to go in folder path of msi afterburn and open a file ini(i dont remember the dettails)...in this file ini there is a string "enable unoficcial overclocking"...simply enable this and you can use msi afterburner

 

MSI afterburner never let me clock as high as ATI clock tool even after messing witht he ini...

and I'm on 11.2 and it works fine.

 

Same with mine; actually you CAN. but you have to set 2D clock profile to be higher than the default clocks (so no quiet'n'cool will kick in and down clock) in order to push the max OC limit up.

Kinda stupid, why can't they make the upper / lower OC/downclocking limits farther or remove altogether? Better binned 5650 chips are getting limited because of that limitation.

 

I saw that the topic creator bios overclocks with profiles.

That makes me want to bios overclock. I'd prefer to keep my computer at .9V most of the time and then under stress it can go up to 1.1V

 

for my luck all games go good for now with stock settings...and a 5/15fps boost with 650/900...if we can increase the voltage[the voltage of the 5730 can go good]and overclock to 850/900 i think we can reach 9500/10k in 3dmark and a boost of 20 fps in all games

 

Hey seeker, is there anyway to change the voltage through Bios editing? I got stuck with the crappy Sony one, and I can barely get it to stock clocks... I have an AMI Bios

 

Yeah the Sony VAIO users are hurt most because of the undervolting. But if there's a general way of changing the voltage we can all benefit (granted the stock voltage + overclock isn't burning up the chip already).

 

Hey jerg, you said you can increase the clocks past 550 mhz in afterburner? Because I'd rather use that than clock tool.

 

Yeah there's a config ini (i think) file in the installed directory of afterburner, in there you'll see an option, something like "enableunofficialoverclocking=", just set that to 1 instead of 0.

Then you can input higher clocks, apply those clocks, and save to one of 5 profiles. Then go into afterburner settings and profiles tab, and set 3D clocks to that profile number, set 2D clock to another profile (make sure the 2D clock profile is stock aka 550/800). There, now it'll automatically OC in games, and DC when you exit.

 

Did you use this to achieve your 715 Mhz core?

 

Yeah. Shame I can't push it higher in afterburner without abandoning the default clocks for 2D profile though. I think I can push it up to ~750 with AMD clock tool.

 

Hi guys,
I've just bought a laptop with mobility 5650.
I've also installate the amd mobility catalyst 11.2, but with these driver I'm not able to overclock my card.
I've tried with Msi afterburner, amd gpu clock tool, rivatuner and ati tray tool with no success.

In particular amd gpu clock tool cannot recognize the device, instead msi afterburner See the videocard, but not the driver version, and also if I set "enableunofficialyadayda" =1, I cannot move the frequency slide.

Any suggestion?

thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english

Wing

 

Problem solved
It is not enough to do that you've describe. It is strange but to enable overlockind you've to do se following changes, copy and paste:

[ATIADLHAL]
UnofficialOverclockingEULA = I confirm that I am aware of unofficial overclocking limitations and fully understand that MSI will not provide me any support on it
UnofficialOverclockingMode = 1
AccessibilityCheckingPeriod = 0


If you don't set the eula like this, overcloking won't work :/

 

Nope, I don't even have that EULA line in the cfg file. Also adding it / removing it again didn't do anything. Maybe our versions are different.

Is your max OC limit 715/1040 in afterburner (dragging bar to far right)?

 

I did what I think is right but I can't increase past 585 Mhz, even though I get stable 640 Mhz on clock tool. This is the under clocked Vaio I'm using.

 

I've used afterburner 2.1.0, win 7 ultimate x64, and a mobility radeon 5650.
without setting the Eula i can't move the slide bar.

I've read the solution in an italian forum where they had the same problem.

Yes, my oc is limited to 715/1040 :/

 

I can't go to more than 640Mhz for the core ! gonna test the memory now pass the 840MHz
Edit : 68° @ 635/955 artifacts starts at 960 MHz
8507 3dMark 06

 

it more depends on the chipset on the motherboard than the bios I think.

Not sure what motherboard you have so I can't really answer for you.

 

He can't.. the bios of toshiba's are vbios/bios in the same time so it's really crappy to edit .. already tried to edit to mod the clocks of the HD5650 it was too hard..

 

ah. Well that sucks horrendously.

 

I'm trying to find out how to mod my 5650m to 1.1v. Could you please explain/link on how to edit the bios to that?

 

Not possible AFAIK, I don't think the power circuitry will be able to deliver 1.1v.

 

nono...is pretty possible...depends by the bios of pc...the 5650 is(all know this)a 5730 with vcore limitation...in fact the 5730 have 1.1v(and sure the newest 6550)

 

Well for instance if you look at the 5650 and 5730 MXM-A cards, the 5730 clearly has a beefier power regulation section, with everything else identical.

But what I mean is the circuit on the motherboard is likely set up for 0.9 -> 1v operation and may not be capable of delivering 1.1v without somehow modifying its top rail.

Btw here is a picture of my vbios:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/Meaks/5730_bios.jpg

Notice how it as a sony style 450/800 bit, an ordinary 5650 bit (thats its battery power clocks) and its full 5730 clocks.

So I have found:

Max benchmarking clocks: 900/1100
Max fully stable clocks: 875/1100

 

just 1 thing...you can try max overclock with only 1.0 voltage??please say me the result...

 

You can mod the BIOS to up the voltage, though I've never actually tried it, so I don't know how it will work. Like I said in the PM, after unpacking the BIOS, just mod the vBIOS with RBE.

 

750mhz at 1.0v

 

Yes, I'm aware of that you can edit the values in RBE but not sure if they stick once changed. I've seen many desktop cards not accepting this procedure. But if 5730 is the same card, and it runs with 1.1v It looks a lot better. I'm pretty sure the power circuitry can handle a 10% increase. They build in a lot more headroom than that when designing these cards.

 

Yes they build headroom, but if the supply rail only goes up to 1.0v then its not a matter of headroom.

(You can't pull 14v from a 12v rail etc)

However, maybe it does, and maybe it can depending on the motherboard I guess, so maybe give it a shot.

 

True, but this is not an equivalent case.

Laptops are supplied off a single 19.5v rail. It is dropped down to 1.0 or 1.1v by a voltage regulator (or a series of VRs). It would be a very poorly designed laptop if the VR on the GPU couldn't increase by a mere 0.1v. Although the power section on the MXM cards are different, the one on a laptop motherboard should be over spec'd, because the manufacturers may sell that laptop model with several different GPUs, and I'm sure they try to reuse as much of the motherboard as possible for all variants.

Nice OC by the way.

 

Bookmarked this thread because I, like many others, would be very glad if we can DIY our 5650s into 5730s.

 

So, is it then possible to get to even 1v vcore on my sony through any method at all?

 

Bench:

Result

 

i maked with my nb in 3dmark11 these(good for a medium class lappy)results...ALL is stock(no overclock gpu):

Result

 

Hey guys, I'm an overclocking noob, and Im trying to overclock my 5650.

If I use the AMD GPU tool to OC, then does that mean that my GPU will always be running at that speed? Or does it just set the maximum allowed speed? ie will it be much lower during normal desktop use?

 

no...he set costantly the speed as you set...use the newest msi afterburner for set the max speed but not use ever this

 

hey guys just joined you today. After reading through the forum for a couple of days I bought myself the Acer 4820TG with the i5-480M and 6550M. Thanks for that first of all. Secondly, I decided to try a bit of overclocking today and I went for 650/900 as most people seemed to be ok with that. I know that the 6550M is a rebranded 5650 so I guess it's ok posting here. Trouble is when i decided to do a bit of stress testing I was shocked. With 2 threads on Prime95 and furmark on, the HWmonitor was telling me that the CPU was at 101C and the GPU at 86C after just 2-3 minutes. That surely mustn't be good now is it? What do you guys think?

 

Well apart from checking your vents, realise that a combined Prime 95 and furmark is a pretty unrealistic scenario.

What's funny is that running prime95 and eve online (with interval immediate (no vsync)) actually draws more power......