How To Overclock The Ati 5650?

Lol. The vents are ok. i think the fan gets to top speed when the CPU reaches 100C but i'm not sure why so late. Maybe it's designed to go that high but i've never heard of anyone's CPU reaching 100C and having a long life. I don't want to OC the CPU cause I think that's fine but i'd like to see how far the GPU goes and I'm not sure how much to push without breaking my laptop. I've managed to play Shogun 2 with 670/930 and I'm pretty sure it can go higher but I don't want to melt it in the process. I plan on having it for at least 2 years. What do you suggest I do? a threshold temperature for a certain load?

 

I'm wondering the same thing. I can barely push my Vaio 5650 past 550 without stability issues, it's very annoying. I didn't know why until I found out that it's not only underclocked, but also undervolted!

 

sony undervolted and clocked down for a better temperature...you can try sapphire trixx,that for most users enable volt features(for me no -.- )...i love this program because have the fan control(and WORK...i use this features before the shutdown of pc...i push the fan to 100% and the temps go down fast)...for overvolt:the acer and toshiba users that use trixx can overvolt his notebook to 1.05 or 1.10v and can push our baby to 750mhz...i have the stock voltage of 1.0 and my max is 650/660mhz...

 

Hello. I have a problem with overclocking my mobility 5650.
I have a Dell N5010, i3 380m 2.53Ghz, 4Gb DDR3 1066Mhz, 500 Gb and Ati 5650 Mobility.
I am using catalyst 11.4 and when I modify the gpu frequency in Amd gpu clock tool or in Msi Afterburner, the catalyst won't display the modified frequency thoug the power play option is disabled.
Any suggestion is welcomed
P.S. the standard clock rate is 450 Mhz for the core, 800 Mhz for the memory, the voltage 0,95 and the OS is Win7

 

what o.c program you have?

 

Use Sapphire Technology - TriXX Tweak Utility it has easier interface & can push the card to more stable clocks. Also, if you are lucky you can overvolt using it and the card downclocks on idle & 2D clocks

 

Thanks MahmoudDew, this program is awesome, the core clock can go up to 600 from 450 mhz, and the memory up to 1200 from 800, and the best part is that I can increase the voltage from 0,95 to 1,12

 

Glad that I could help

 

what do you guys think abt my scores at 3dmark06 ..

machine is VPCEB26FG : i3-350M-2.26GHz , 5650 1 GB .


this one is out of box score


this is with 625-942 with AMD GPU Clock Tool

 

these are the lowest HD5650 I have ever seen ... there must be something wrong :O

 

thats what i m wondering abt after reading many posts here ... should i report to Sony abt this ,Demand for RMA.

 

i have hp dv6tse with the following specs
i5 460m
8gb ddr3 ram
ati 5650 1gb graphics card
640gb 7200rpm hard disk drive
touchscreen

and my problem is that while i play games like nfs hot pursuit 2010 the fps ranges from 15~25 and low settings and my furmark scores with the ati 5650 were

Score: 369 points (6 FPS)
Bench duration: 60 seconds
Resolution: 1280 x 720
MSAA samples: 2
Window mode: fullscreen
Primary renderer: ATI Radeon HD 5650
Device ID: 0x1002 - 0x68c1
GPU clock: 550 MHz
Memory clock: 799 MHz
Graphics drivers: Catalyst - 8.771.1-100909a-105895C-HP (9-9-2010)
GPU temperatures (start/end):55°C / 70°C
Number of GPUs: 1
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 460 @ 2.53GHz
CPU speed: 2527 MHz
Operating system: Windows 7 64-bit build 7600 [No Service Pack]

and with intel graphics were
Score: 30 points (0 FPS)

Submitted by 123 on May 23 2011, 2:27 am
Bench duration: 60 seconds
Resolution: 1280 x 720
MSAA samples: 1
Window mode: fullscreen
Primary renderer: Intel GMA HD
Device ID: 0x8086 - 0x46
Graphics drivers: 8.771.1.0 (9-9-2010) - atig6pxx.dll
GPU temperatures (start/end): not available
Number of GPUs: 1
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 460 @ 2.53GHz
CPU speed: 2527 MHz
Operating system: Windows 7 64-bit build 7600 [No Service Pack]

my 3d mark11 scores are as follows
http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1249548

can anyone tell me what the problem is with my laptop????????
any help greatly appreciated

 

@vivek599 I don't think you can RMA that because technically they will say nothing wrong with your machine since it works ... I guess they care little for benchmarks ... we can try to figure out wats wrong with your machine can you tell me what is the driver you are using and your FPS in a certain game or something other than 3Dmark

@johnvarghese333 from the info you provided I can tell that you may have driver problem because everything else looks solid try to update to the latest ATI catalyst from ATI site & refer to any of the guides of how to install a driver on a dual GPU system

 

yes...is very low O.O...with 650/850 i have 8600(1280x768)points and 7600 with stock(550/800)

 

make sure powerplay isn't breaking things.

that's what happens with my envy 14 (which is close enough to a dv6tse)

I have to turn it off (detick it), hit apply, and turn it back on (retick it) and hit apply again.

 

@magus draco i always turn off powerplay when i'm doing graphic intensive stuff,even though i always put it to maximum performance when plugged in.
@MahmoudDewy i had the latest drivers from ati but i figured the hp recommended driver was better even though its not the latest.

i guess the p957 3d mark11 score was because of my low clock of 550/800
and i had a couple of cpu intensive programs running when i ran the benchmark.
when i OCed the chip to 650/850 im etting a significantly better score of p1102

can anyone tell me what the maximum stable clock for the ati5650 is on 1v???
any is there any possible way to increase the voltage on the dv6tse for the 5650.

 

The Stable clocks are different from one chip to the other but on average on a 1v chip 580~760 for the core & 900~1200 for the memory these are the ranges of the clocks I saw on HD5650s you will have to try & see for urself how your ones fares ... as for the voltage overclock you can try Sapphire Technology - TriXX Tweak Utility if your card voltage table have a higher voltage you can pump it up to that voltage ....

Good luck and happy overclocking

 

My 5730 is bios modded to run at 800/1050 and is stable with no problems. Runs great and get just over 9000 at 1280 x 1024 in 3dmark06. Stock clocks were under 8000 so defiantly a nice jump. And the 5730 is just an overclocked 5650 so id like to see how far you can push it

 

Your scores are perfectly fine for 3dmark 11, I have exactly the same hardware in a Dell Inspiron and have clocks of 450/800 stock and get 100 marks below yours, but your 06 marks are suspiciously low.

Here are my scores: 3dmark11 and 3dmark 06 and 3dmark Vantage at stock clocks with stock dell drivers just to give you a benchmark, I've overclocked it slightly to 550/800 and it added 500 marks to the vantage score, all my scores seem consistent with Notebookcheck's tests.

the only difference is my drivers are ATI only drivers, no Intel card switching, if you want to try the drivers that I'm using just now, they can be found here; ATI 11.5a Catalyst Drivers

Install the 'Display Driver', you'll get a Blue Screen and a restart, after that the display driver's part of the installer is installed, then install everything including the display driver component again (for the second time) and it'll install fine.

good luck

 

Actually something I remembered this morning, DON'T INSTALL THOSE DRIVERS i RECOMMENDED! They are only for the laptops specified in the release notes, which excludes card switching laptops, sorry for the bad info, completely slipped my mind.

 

Wow. Furmark 6> FPS o_o. Yesterday i installed CCC 11-5a again and downloaded newest MB drivers. All problems i had were now gone!
BFBC2 works now with the mouse patch 1.1 ( needed to dowload input folder) fine again. Under DX11 all Medium Texture High rest off. What do i get with 550/1000 clocks??? Right in avarage smooth 45 FPS. Never under 35.
Furmark = 40 FPS in avarage. MIN 29 MAX 50. Nice results with this hotfix.

 

AND NO MiCrOsTuTtErInG. lol.

 

With 1V you can get even higher. But many HD5650M were underclocked and undervolted. Like mine HD5650M and the Voltage is controled by the main BIOS. TriXX has no access to it. So if the GPU runs 0.95 V wich is enough for 550/1000
you have already reached the limit. ---->If someone is good in BIOS modding and he/she can help us unlocking the Voltages in BIOS´s it would be nice if he/she would help.<----- If we unlock the Voltage we can get with 1.1V to HD5730M level. But here the 128Bit Bus will be the bottleneck to clock higher.

 

As my sig says I bios OCed my GPU which shares the bios with the main system & could overvolt it ... but I really didn't ... overvolting has never been a favorite to me ... so is it possible ? yes it is ... is it really recommendable ? "in my book" not it isn't

 

much time ago on this forum a friend try to overclock my bios(is hp...Insyde bios)...there are much much problem with the bios of hp...at the moment on some notebook with this bios is impossible increase vmod or touch other parameters

 

Ok i know that InsydeH20 Bios is the last Cr~p you can get but it is still possible. Can you give me some clues how to do it? AND of course i know that function mods are always more complicated than SLIC and so on.

 

eheh man i know good overclock with software programs,but with bios...i'm a very very big noob(i never touched a bios)...but here there are many capable people...

 

BIOS was always a zone for pros who know what they do. But there are some tool for modding. Actually im waiting until the Toshiba driver site is online again. I have already some tools for modding:
EzH20
FLA
The goal is to look into the BIOS and unlock hidden options. Pehaps theres even a Vcore setting. I think it should be worth to try. I will start soon a topic for modding my BIOS and perhaps some of this experienced guys can help me or check if i did everything right.
If something goes wrong i just give it to SATURN for repairing. I dont think you can see that the BIOS is corrupted if the notebook isnt giving a sign that it is allive. They just change the MB and thats it.
Another point is that the BIOS cant be taken out.

 

Just out of curiosity, what are you guys using for cooling these overclocked 5650's? because so far my stock clocks are good enough to play nearly everything at near full settings (Timeshift, Bulletstorm, Bioshock, Singularity) Metro 2033 being the only one thats really heavy.

Taking into account heating issues and lifespan, right now I dont feel I need to overclock, once it starts lagging then maybe...

 

I can over clock my HP to 755/955 anything over that causes artifacts, its the most stable i can get it. and I am happy with it....

 

I was more wondering what temps do you get? and if they're high do you use any cooling pads or up the fan speed or anything?

 

Depends on the machine, its cooling abilities, other components like the CPU kicking in and causing +++ heat, the overclocks you can reach in the first place & the voltage of the GPU ... the temperatures are not consistent on all the HD5650s ... but for what it is worth mine hits 75c max in a hot day with the OC I currently have

 

Ah, I just OC'd to 620/1050 and it only went to 75C I thought it was proportional to how much it was OC'd.

on stock settings it reaches 69-70 in the same game, same scenarios, kinda strange. got 4343 in Vantage which slightly beats my friends quad core 2.4ghz, 9600GT, but his motherboard sucks, shows how far mobile cards have came, I guess.

Another thing, If I go over 620 core, it randomly freezes, goes to a black screen and then comes back again to the desktop, but no artifacts. So would this be due to overclocking too much or Powerplay? because I didn't get any artifacts just froze, black screen, then came back again.

 

My L650 runs at 80 C sometimes a little bit more but never over 90C.
I also can OC the card to 620/1050 but pixelerrors/mistakes come up.
Im prime stable at 550/1000. To get higher with the Core clock i need to lower VRAM Mhz. So for example 620/950 at 0.95 Vcore is stable.
It would be much better to OC to the 5730M rates if i had 1.0 Volt Vcore.
But i cant find the BIOS setting ( in the BIOS dump that i tried). Im much better in deassambling the laptop and modding the Voltage chip xD.
P.S. Im good in Electronic things. But this would be the hardcore way....

 

Wow, where has this forum been all these long days iv sepnt tearing what hair i have left from my skull?

please forgive me if im not directly fallowing protocol here.

i have an acer aspire 7551 with an ati radeon mobility 5650hd. this laptop has given me problems from the get go that sound like what iv been reading about here.

it would seem i need to underclock my gpu to keep it from overheating? i am currently trying to download the overclock util listed earlier in this thread but if someone woud be so kind as to assure me im going about this the right way i would be most appreciative

 

Well ... if you don't use the GPU for intensive tasks Underclocking will be ok since it will reduce the temps when combined with fixing the GPU at the lowest possible voltage (use Sapphire Technology - TriXX Tweak Utility for that) ... & the reduced graphics performance won't affect you ... Thats if you don't use the GPU

 

I would recommend using rivatuner. It protects those IO Memory ports and since im using CCC 11-5 and Rivatuner there are now freezes no crashes or sth. anymore. I have 0.95 Volts and it always runs under 85C.
Here is a short guide how to use RivaTuner:
1. Download and install Rivatuner Download
2.Launch Rivatuner and close it again.
3.Download GPU-Z and check if your Device ID is 1002-68C1.
A) If its the same download the attached .cfg file and you are done. Lauch Rivatuner again and press customise and the Grafics card when it appears ( left symbol)
B) If it isnt the same contact me and i´ll make a new .cfg file for u.
P.S. Let Rivatuner install its defaults and dont change settings. for OC you have to enable low.level harware overclocking in the Grafics card option.
Of course u can UC to.

 

ATTACHMENT .cfg file. Overwrite old one in Rivatuner Installation folder.

 

Hey I was wondering would it be worth my while taking apart my laptop to apply thermal paste?

my temps are pretty well controlled with the fan, the fan'll take the CPU right down to 31/20C and the GPU down to 42C when idle. On full settings with Bioshock, the GPU goes up to 66C, Metro 2033 takes it to 69-70C on stock settings(450/800), the CPU goes to 60 MAX whatever I do.

Its more for the overclocking aspect, just bought Metro 2033 and it'll take it above 70 regularly - even more if OC'D - so what do you think, could I remove a significant amount of degrees to warrant taking apart my laptop?


cheers Alex

 

Applying TP isnt always a good idea. It depends on the quality of the product you bought. I did this after 4 jears on my HP nc6000 and cleaned the cooling system. I had nothing to loose and my temps were ca. 95C in idle. Pentium M. The laptop always shuted down if it got over 100C.
My L650 temps are:
CPU: 45C
GPU: 54C
In performance mode with GPU OC in idle. When i play BFBC2 temps go up to ca. 75-85C. So i dont need to put new TP on it. I would loose my warranty if i do.

 

Just tried following clocks:
->650Mhz/800 freeze
->600Mhz/1000 Pixel Errors
->600Mhz/900 Prime stable with ATItool

My question is if 550Mhz/1000 were faster/better than 600/900. Im too old for doing benchmarks.

 

thanks for the info, I'll hopefully remember it in 4 years time, I bought a Dell manufacture refurb, which I always believe are tested and checked better.

I've been busy doing benchmarks from 450/800 right up to 620/1050 and 550/1000 compared to 600/900 gives very little difference if at all.

650 seems to freeze with me as well, try 620 for the core speed, 625 still gave me freezes, 620 is fine though, but as already said, every card is different.

But 450/800 compared to 620/1050 is a difference of 1000 marks in 3dmark vantage, quite an increase... 50mhz doesn't really make that big of a difference though.

 

a thousands thanks!

everything is working great, i do use my laptop for gaming as well as programs like zbrush and 3ds max but i dont mind things looking a little worse as long as they work!

thanks again.

 

Did you underclock?

 

lol, all i did was hotfix...

<-- noob

 

ok, so it didnt fix anything i guess.... i still get everything freezing up and the message "your graphics driver has stopped working"

tried to install the saphire thing but it didnt seem to work. ima try the other one.

was unable to install riva, windows said i need driver signing or some crap.

 

Hi everyone, I'm trying to mod my Dell Inspiron n5010's bios. I have downloaded the updated bios, unpacked it with "phoenixtool" and it created a "DUMP" folder on my desktop as well as 2 files. Inside the "DUMP" folder there are alot of .ROM files ranging from 1kb upto 700kb. I have now checked every single one of them with hexworkshop and cant find any info relating to my Ati HD5650...

Any thoughts?

 

Try to open then with Radeon Bios Editor (My Radeon HD5650 is called OPROM00.ROM if that helps some people have OPROM01.ROM) the ones that will open will be the GPU Bioses ... Take Care because your laptop surely comes with more than one GPU so make sure you are editing the one for the HD5650

 

I must be doing something wrong as RBE says "not a valid ati bios" to all of the files..

What am I doing wrong?

I downloaded to 2mb bios file from dell, it's in their usual .exe format tho, so I open phoenixtool and in the secion that you browse to the bios file I direct it to the .exe.

It unpacks it to the Dump folder, but none of those .ROM files in the "Dump" folder seem to be valid...

 

hmm ... a DOS bios file is usually .ROM or .WPH not .exe ... are u using the windows flashing version ?