I`m upgrading, are you? (GTX 780M review inside)

I'll be sure to run a benchmark or two before I say goodbye to my old laptop via sludge hammer (or I might just let it collect dust...)

 

Except the leaked clevo notes show 2GB of video ram.

 

Tell me about it. It's been almost five years since I bought my G71 with the 9700m. Now I'm probably going for the G750 with the 780m, talk about an upgrade! :thumbsup: Love the new pics of it btw, the design is hot!

 

Man, those that are upgrading from ancient hardware or lower end, are in for a surprise. It is amazing to really have such power at hands. Even when taxing the GPU to the max, it feels like a powerful monster saying afloat any game

 

I will stay with my 680m's in SLI until they shake out the drivers, I am at 35,980 3dmark now with this rig and it screams. No need to upgrade until I find the right price to performance increase to make it worthwhile, or a game I cannot play on ultra everything.

 

This is great news. I loved my good old G73, and the G750 looks like a derivation of that.. Don't know why, but it just had the best "feel" of any gaming laptop I've had since, AW, Clevo, MSI included. The only issue that I remember was upgrading internals was a PIA. In any case, it's good to see another player in the high-end space. In fact, I think this is Asus' first foray into using a top-end GPU since the venerable W90vp (let's hope, however, the GPU support is better on the G750...).

Do we have any idea on ETA, price?

 

On Asus forums rumored price is 1800€ for GTX770m variant. Expect 300-400€ more on the GTX780m version.

 

Ugh, pass then. Over $2100 for the same hardware you can get for >$1700? Who does Asus think they are, Alienware?

 

I love the portability of a gaming powerhouse laptop, but at those prices, I'd have to consider binning off mobile gaming and grab a couple of Titans, maybe even three and build a stonking desktop.

 

Eh? A Titan alone is over $1000. Then likely close to $1000 for the rest of the desktop. Granted it is a top end machine, but still. Can't get quite 3 for the cost of a GTX 780m laptop.

 

True, but maybe if you are looking for something like an M18xR3 with XM and Sli'd 780m's etc etc, your probably gonna be staring down the barrel of the best part of $5k, I'd imagine. Of course, a single 780m notebook with lower spec's ain't gonna equate to a budget for getting a few Titans in a desktop.

 

Clevo P177SM have been tested.
Look at the 3DMark11 score. A whopping 8000 in GPU score for the Clevo 780M at stock clocks. 200 points more than the MSI 780M.





GPU-Z/CPU-Z


Stock GTX 780M in 3DMark11. Look at the GPU score. 8000. Reborn got 7200 with his 780M. The first post in this thread got 7800. So there must be something Reborn 780M is missing. He didn`t test with GPU boost 2.0 perhaps?


Other 3DMark benchmarks


Unigine Heaven benchmark


Source: http://nbbbs.zol.com.cn/1/33948_673.html

 

Doesn't stock 680m score 7200+ in 3DMark11? If so,8000 for 780m is "only" a 10% difference. I'm not saying that's bad (no increase, regardless of how it's achieved, is bad imo), and not the subtle clock increase we saw with the GTX 580m to GTX 675m rebrand, but a bit disappointing for a 1 1/2-year gap between refreshes.

Edit: D'uh x10. I was looking at another card's results... 680m "only" gets 6200pts stock which makes the increase much more palatable, over 23%!

 

What card were you looking at? :/

6200 to 7500 is not bad for a refresh in a benchmark that ignores one of its major gains.

 

Here are the current scores to stop the confusion. Nothing is overclocked. As always: look at the "Graphic score".

GTX 780M 3DMark11 Performance Preset:


GTX 680M 3DMark11 Performance Preset:


GTX 680MX 3DMark11 Performance Preset:



GTX 780M 3DMark11 Extreme Preset:


GTX 680M 3DMark11 Extreme Preset:


GTX 680MX 3DMark11 Extreme Preset:



GTX 780M 3DMark Vantage Performance Preset:


GTX 680M 3DMark Vantage Performance Preset:

 

It's a sizable increase on stock for both, at least scorewise. A nice bump that will be most noticeable with bandwidth heavy games at high res.

considering the MSI is driving multiple monitors this time, I wonder if we could play multi monitor gaming with settings dialed down?

 

Any 680mx scores to compare to?

 

Just added GTX 680MX to the comparison I made R3d

 

780 (desktop) is a bit shorter than a TITAN (I am really curious about the price point of it, will it be 500-600 as we had seen before, or 1k as TITAN is right now), so I guess the aggressive 780m makes sense right now..

GeForce GTX 780 | Specifications | GeForce

 

From what I've heard it will be around 600 usd and only 9~10% slower in average than a Titan

 

780m seems to cost 650dlrs or so, and should pack around 85% performance of the titan. Here is toms hardware review of it Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 Review: Titan

To be honest, it is a good and a bad thing. On the plus side, it is much more affordable than the Titan. On the other side, it's barely faster than an HD7970 :/ but that was expected when rumors of a cut down titan emerged.

Maybe it the price were 550 it would be a great buy, but 200dlrs more than an HD7970 seems too much to me. It is a nice upgrade for GTX 400/500 series though.

 

^^ ummm what??? 780 is barely faster than 7970?? 680 is already faster than a 7970 and 780 is about 40% faster from what I see from 680..

 

Actually on average the 780 is 22% ahead of the 7970 however this is just on release drivers. In a few months it'll be humiliating it especially in the frametime tests as usual.

 

40% where do you see that?

3DMark 11 is only 25-30% faster at stock and less than 15% with stock voltage OC. But we haven't really seen gaming performance yet to see the true difference.

 

It is purely because of Boost BS, if you can properly OC that beast I am sure it would be much better than that (just guesswork though)

 

It's not a release of a new core though, the titan core has been out for some time.

 

A lot of wild figures being thrown around in this thread.
For all those who like to use stats in their arguments/counterarguments plz link your stats to proven benchmarks.

Thnx

 

In desktop world, the hd7970 is faster than gtx680. It is also cheaper it seems. Back when it launched, gtx680 was the faster gpu. After driver updates, the radeon took the crown back.

As always there will be games that favor each vendor but currently, the radeon is the faster of the two.

Of course, the gtx780 is faster than any of those, and a decent bump in performance coming from gtx680.

On notebooks though, 680m is faster than 7970m, and 780m even more so.

 

Isn't there a special forum for discussing desktop hardware?

 

GTX 780M spanks the GTX 680M. This is from a MSI GT70 review

Lost Planet. 25% more FPS.






Hitman. 57% more FPS








Metro2033. 52% more FPS

 

Those figures above are excellent.
Does anyone know if the 780m will be backwards compatible with the older P1*0HM and P1*0EM clevo notebooks?
TIA.

 

That first one is lost planet 2, Test B.

Are those all stock clocks, overclock, what?

I just RAM Metro 2033 and at stock (765/1800, 765 core is lowest I can go with current vBIOS) get 30FPS and 1000/2400 39FPS. So if those are stock clocks, about on par with max clock stock voltage 680m, but the numbers showing 25FPS is not accurate.

 

I will DL some games benchmarks tonight and see how it compares to the 680M - according to your review HTWingNut!

 

Awesome!

I plan on running some more of the newer titles: Bioshock Infinite, Tomb Raider, Hitman Absolution, Metro Last Light, Resident Evil 6

I also find with the latest 314.22 drivers there are some decent improvements overall. Haven't touched the 320.11 (or whatever) just released yesterday.

 

Hmm I have a limited connection - so will only get the basic benchmarks, cannot download the full games unfortunately

If you have any proven benchmarks, not to heavy to download, feel free to message me with the tittles so I get them!

I'm running on the 320.14, haven't tried the 314.22 - I don't think it will make a huge difference though.

 

Ah, lost planet. Thanks. Didn`t reckognize the picture.

It was stock clocks on both.

You must remember HT, that you can`t compare your results against another review. You get different FPS depending on where you test the GPUs. Some areas are more demanding than other. But stock 780M = max OC 680M is extremely good anyways.

 

Cloudfire correct, unless they used a build in benchmarks) also, i have a 660Ti from Asus which from the tests equals 780M. So i might compare the results, when pau1ow gets them!

It's better to have Metro: Last Light (TOMB RAIDER), cause it has a build in benchmark and the game relies ONLY ON GPU horspower, unlike HITMAN and CRYSIS 3. Just set everything on max, except Physx and SSAA - OFF

 

wait, did i miss something? is this card out already?

 

Nah, I think it leaked on Ebay, or something like that. Cancelled my M18x order cause of this. June 10th can't come any faster!

 

Resident Evil 6

GTX 780M stock clocks


GTX 680M stock clocks


GTX 680M 1000MHz/1200MHz


7970M stock clocks

 

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Cheers.

 

My results with HD 7970M

Resident Evil 6 Benchmark GPU stock 850/1200 Mhz 6849 Score

Resident Evil 6 Benchmark GPU overclocked 915/1375 Mhz 7438 Score

Benchmark highest settings

Driver catalyst 13.4 WHQL

CPU overclocked

Update with 13.5 mobility beta 3 driver

GPU stock 850/1200 Mhz 6891 Score

GPU overclocked 915/1375 Mhz 7514 Score

Same settings as before

So look at the CPU´S !!!!

cheers

 

All those "newer" games listed have built-in benhcmarks. Every benchmark I've done is repeatable and most are built-in, and if not, I make it repeatable. And I agree stock 780m = 680m @ 1000/2400 is pretty awesome. But still not reasonable for a 680m to 780m upgrade.

Bioshock, Tomb Raider, Hitman, Resident Evil, Metro LL all have built-in benchmarks. Those games don't rely solely on GPU horsepower, easily shown by using Throttlestop or Intel XTU to change CPU speed.

 

here is a benchmark from metro LL and tomb raider with 7970m overclocked!

 

You have a job to do reborn
Make sure you test with the same settings.

johnnyman: What settings did you use in Tomb raider?

 

at tomb raider is all ultra with aa and tressfx off!

 

I am liking these benches comparing all three main contenders

 

GTX 680 desktop@ 796/2898



NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 video card benchmark result - Intel Xeon Processor X5680,EVGA EVGA Classified SR-2 score: P7566 3DMarks

GTX 680 desktop SLI @ 796/2898



NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 video card benchmark result - Intel Xeon Processor X5680,EVGA EVGA Classified SR-2 score: P12812 3DMarks

 

Now all we need is OP ... ahem Cloudfire... to summarize the different benches and performance numbers.