I`m upgrading, are you? (GTX 780M review inside)

Never seen that case before. Looked up Clevo's website and it's not on there.
But look at the lid. The edges (especially the top opening) look really similar to the leaked pic of Alienware M17X R5.

 

Its a brand new Clevo model. Clevo P375

Great reasoning there dandan. I guess enthusiasts will have reasons to upgrade though. You know, the ones who don`t stop until they score P1000000 in 3DMark11

 

I seriously hate you guys... just when I weaned myself from following these threads!

Any word on an sli 780 rig with a 120hz screen? That's what I want.

 

If sager follow through on the 120hz screen on theirs then the model above should have that option.

 

Perfect. I love my m17x but since I got the 144hz desktop monitor it gets almost no love.

Anybody interested in an m17x r4? 7970m

 

Looks nice, maybe a tad too thick but since it's sli/xfire compatible oh well....
Also, come on why they still using that keyboard?! Craving for steelseries keyboard msi uses.

 

It IS the exact same Steelseries keyboard MSI use. Clevo have jumped onboard as well to feature it on their notebooks. I`m using it now with my GT70. Love it.

LOL blame Nvidia or technology in general and how it progress
You could always try the marketplace here at NBR to see if anyone want to buy it.

 

"Blame nvidia"

More than you know. The 680 sli on the desktop is so smooth with the lightboost hack, really spoils you.

 

If they haven't fixed the cooling on that new Clevo than it's just as useless as the model it replaces. Knowing Clevo they cut corners as usual......

 

What was the issue with the cooling? Most games the 680m GPU's are 68-72C on average with peaks mid 70's.

 

I was referring to the p370 which was hitting up to 90c on the slave gpu because of the misaligned heatsinks.

 

Anyone who have a buttload of money?

Qual Sample M18x M17x NVIDIA GeForce GTX780M Laptop Video Card 780M 4GB w Driver | eBay
Price: US $1,499.95

 

Maybe the picture angle is not right but from I see the front view looks like the keyboard from P150EM/P170EM. I mean MSI laptop keyboards are individual keys with gaps.

 

so gtx 780m is mxm 3b compatible sweet

 

Expensive toy.

 

Quality sample? No thanks. $1500 No thanks. lol.

 

Come on. You know you want to be the first one to review this GPU. Its expensive as hell but you`ll be king on NBR for maybe a month

 

everybody wants that guys who understand chinese please monitor those chinese forums....some guys are reviewing it already maybe....so nvidia is unveiling their line up in computex or later?

 

Shame they haven't got two available for Sli - might have considered part/ex'ing a kidney......

 

And then return it within a month XD

 

Hey everybody!
I was reading the forums, but i havent get answer to my question yet, so i ask here as well, someone may can tell me whatsup. So im plannin to buy the new rebranded sager np9370 (the 2013 collection what they releaseafter week/months). I want to know if i buy that laptop with a 780m card and after some years i want to change that for xample to a maxwell card, is it possible?
Thx for the answer in adv.

 

Yes, as long as Maxwell is compatible with MXM 3.0 then you'll be able to upgrade down the line.

 

OMG that looks like a fusion between MSI GT70 + Clevo P170EM!!!!so cool for a barebone!
and from the pic, it looks like it has 3 heatsinks?which mean it is for CPU + 2 SLI/Crossfire GPU :O

 

Well that's a Clevo board, funny how he only gives warranty for use on AW...

"Same" old cooling as HM/EM...

 

No Sli for the P17HW machine, from their online configuration tool.

Still, pricing looks promising. Seems that it comes with a base 2gb 765m which can be upgraded to a 4gb 780m for only $300 extra - seems very good to me. I wonder if Dell/Alienware will follow similar pricing, or wether they will be outlandishly expensive in comparison.

 

pricewise, an upgrade costing $300 from midrange to flagship is better comparing to $400 jump between 670mx to 680M, i will be wondering how will 8970m/8990m will put their price in between xD
from config yes, but from the pic, it looks like it has 3 vents.
seeing the rumor bout M17X R5, it seems better to stick with R3/R4 and just upgrade the GPU, unless you want 3D (R3 issue with 680M), but yeah.. who knows how the final release will be

HM/EM has only 2 vents, this one has 3. it looks so solid in pic, but i wish it was thinner

 

P1xxSM:



Carefull with that illusion guy on ebay, he uses pictures from someone else and not his own...

Here are the originals made with NIKON D80:

Spoiler

 

Thanks for the warning Prema. How do you know he took the picture from someone else? Where did you find the originals?
Also does Dell always use green? Is that why you think its a Clevo? Thanks

Yeah I agree. Looks really cool.
I will await a review before buying it. If Clevo run a little more quieter firmware its a good candidate. If not, I think I`ll go MSI again since you can control the fan on those machines.

 

I can't tell my source, but that's a Clevo GTX780M demo board for the upcoming P37xSM model and not AW...

 

Oh Prema with his eternal wisdom and secrets. Good to have you around here at NBR

 

Man, It's about a month before release and the gpu is already popping up haha.

I can't wait to try it myself!

 

Well the testing will be done now so the timing is not too odd..

 

so prema can you confirm mxm 3b? should i a lappy with 680m or wait a while...got a a deal on m17x r4 with 680m+256gb ssd+ori win8 at usd 1600 should i go for it?

 

Well the picture gives that away

 

is that brand new?

 

Probably the Costco special they had a little while back.

 

If the warranty is decent I would get that and just upgrade later. The 680m should net you around $400, which would take care of a good chunk of the funds needed to get a 780m.

 

That is if you even need a 780m if $400-500 is worth 20% FPS improvement at best.

I just want to know at stock voltage and stock PSU what is best performance improvement of the 780m over the 680m. Without even maximizing my system I can get P7900+ and X2800+ 3DMark11 with 680m at stock voltage. 780m would have to get P12000 and X4200 before I'd even consider it.

 

That's a real nice special then (btw I didn't know Costco was selling AW can you imagine AW laptops next to 24 pack G2 stacks )

 

The 780m will be a 30% improvement.

 

3DMark != FPS

 

my goodness, you are the man prema . hope the cooling in the P1xx will get better, or at least the temp of gpu on load can be lower somehow :/

man.. no offense to all alienware users and fans. i was an msi user, had msi gt 60 then i jumped overboard to alienware m17
i had to admit that in terms of cooling and keyboard msi is much superior than AW M17. would love to the design improvement in both of them

 

Also it can be a 30% improvement at stock (again 3dmark11 environment), I think that it cannot go over 30% over the max OC'd 680m.

 

Comparing stock vs stock is no different than comparing oc vs oc. The 780m will always have that 30% extra memory bandwidth which means 25-30% more frames in games with anti aliasing.

 

interesting.
if theres any chance this card will work with my sager8150, i might consider it- to play rome 2.

 

You are asking way too much. Maxwell will be the only thing thats good enough for you

 

Sorry but it does not work that way.

Part of the issue is exactly the clocks that the memory can reach, higher voltage is great but the difference is not HUGE, 900mhz low voltage hits between 1200-1250 at peak while 1250 ram, 1400-1500 which is a much smaller percentage increase so 15-20% extra bandwidth depending on your sample.

There is also the issue that the core wont be that much more efficient, you can throw any clock advantage out the window as we have full voltage and clock control with the 680M, so in most systems you will be thermally limited to around 950-1033mhz for 24/7 depending on mods and the system in question. There may be slightly more to eek out of it if we can manipulate turbo in certain games.

So I would suggest the differences for me if I had full control over the card:

680M: 1033/1300
780M: 1066/1600

So memory bandwidth gains to be had, but very little movement in the core. That's assuming turbo does not actually get in the way of overclocking and hurts it.

 

Yep. An overclocked GTX 680 @ 1300 MHz on the core can't even touch 11k on Performance preset/4k on Extreme.

 

I would expect 3500 extreme 3dmark and p9500-9800 3dmark 11 peak scores.

Maybe a bit more if turbo is leniant on 3dmark.

 

Last time I discussed this with mr Fox he said 1150-1175 was about the highest it was worth setting the 680m's memory as above that the scores would start to drop. Than again he is running the 2gb versions. 4gb versions might overclock better. In any case the 780m has at least a 20% bandwidth advantage even when we look at overclocking.

I heard you did some mod on your 680m to give the memory extra voltage. Could that be done on the 780m? The PCB looks to be the same.