Intel X3100 users rejoice! It's finally here! New Pre-Beta Drivers

hi, i've played stalker in this card. it gives max of 20-25 fps outside and the fps inside some buildings and tunnels are in 30s. i think its very much playable. oh some times the game freezes for 1-2 secs but its ok. now guys can you tell me some games which are playable in this card. i've played cod4 and aoe3. thanks..

 

Hi, how is the fps in cod4 and aoe3? What drivers and OS are you using?

I tried wc3 in vista with the latest drivers and it ran without crashing. But everything once in a while there is screen flicker and it really annoying.

Anyone else tried wc3? Hope Intel can fix this.

 

80 gb 5400 rpm, and 1 gb ram on XP. Should be fine. Oh well, new processor should be here by monday or tuesday!

 

Hey i run on the same specs as u almost. Anyway can u plz tell me what 3dmark score u get in 06 version and what games u r able to play with that CPU cuz i got the same CPU as u.

Can u play Dawn of War?

 

I don't have Dawn of War or 3dMark06. Running Vista I got like 1200 in 3dmark03.

 

3DMark06 I believe I saw somewhere the X3100 gets like... 60? Not for sure.

 

Looks like they score between 200 and 600 for 3dmark06:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Graphics-Media-Accelerator-X3100.2176.0.html

 

@Eason You really should think of adding 1gb more. The RAM is cheap right now..

 

I will add another GB I think, I was just looking at it today. edit:
Hrm,
Memory store has 2gb x 1 sodimm for $49... I shouldn't be spending money but.. ok

 

Is anyone having trouble playing Call of Duty 2 , because i am, sometimes when im playing the games freezes and then the screen turns black and it returns to the game, Windows tells me that it was a Video Hardware Error and that the name of the problem event is "LiveKernelEvent"
this is kinda weird , if someone knows how to fix this please tell me .

 

Hey atthegates, might be important or might not be, are you running XP or Vista?

 

hi, i wanted to test how wc3:frozen throne works in software mode

i added the d-word _frozen throne.exe in the registy path
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\ialm\Device0

is that right or is there another exe?

 

XP SP3 check my previous posts

@continental I think the exe is War3.exe. You should add a new DWORD value and name it _War3.exe .

 

This may have been covered before- is the memory distribution for the X3100 the same across every platform? Mine is scanned as a 128 mb card by most programs, but the driver memory imprint is set to "high". Is this something other people are experiencing?

 

I read somewhere that when the laptop has 1gb of RAM, x3100 autolimit itself to use less amount of memory..Chipset has limitations too, what's yours? GMA950? 128mb is way too low..
For example, mine with 2gb RAM and GM965 reports 358mb video memory max..

 

Usually it won´t use more than 1/6 of system´s memory and the top of x3100 is around 358Mb AFAIK.

X3100 deserved at least 32Mb of "turbo memory" + 256Mb of system memory (top). That way it would have those 32Mb and 64/128-bit bus for "fast" operations and system memory/bus for the rest/testure. It would eat less system memory and it would be an extra 64/128-bit bus and an extra dedicated 32Mb.

 

Honestly though, on any IGP, over 128M is useless, seeing as it renders rarely any better results, to due it's "memory sharing" system. Some IGP's have discrete memory, and that actually helps, where as the X3100 was crippled from the start.

I am enjoying watching this thread, though. Kinda cool to see budget laptops doing things I didn't think were possible.

 

I havent played cod4 for a long time but you can play it without any probs like crashing or some crappy errors. the fps might be around 15-20 perhaps. And aoe3 the fps is around 12-13. the problem arises during the naval battles. the fps drops to 1-2. Btw i m using vista business 32 with the latest drivers (15.9). i think the only latest game u can play in this igp is cod4. cod4 strongly recommended.

 

Just tried CoD4 Demo, very poor performance, I'd say it's below 20FPS all the time, makes huge FPS drops probably to 5FPS or less, therefore - almost unplayable..
No tweaks, at lowest settings.

 

hi guys. the game i m trying to run is farcry. but when i play using Direct3d renderer the game world is all blue. i can see the textures but its like some light blue kind of layer. but whenever i try to run it using OpenGL it runs properly but the fps outside is below 10 and inside is manageable. I've read somewhere that farcry runs pretty decent in this igp but somehow i m not able to run it properly. can anyone help???

 

Apply the latest patches, this should fix the problem.

 

I thought any system with a x3100 has to be a GM965 chipset? Anyway, that's what mine is, a 965. We'll see how it's detected once I get my extra gb!

 

You might want to also try my .cfg file- replace the one in your base32 and main directory with this:

Note, if you reselect any detail level set to "custom", the tweaks will be erased.


About Doom 3/Quake 4- I just realized that Quake 4 is going to run better than Doom 3, assuming you have an enabled dual core CPU (e.g. not a celeron). Quake 4 supports Dual Core processors with the latest updates, Doom 3, however, still does not.

 

GL960 is also an x3100, but on GL960 its core is limited to 400MHz compared to GM965's 500MHz

 

just got the PX 14.34 drivers and they r really bad, so going back to 14.33

I could not run 3Dmark06 or any high demanding games on the new drivers LOL.

ANyone else had this problem?

 

Never tried 3Dmark on my computer, but all the games I play recently are doing ok(and better) than with 14.33.

And yeah for the record I know that 3Dmark is not a game so no intentions to make a joke of this

 

Weird, did you uninstall the old drivers before updating?

 

By: atthegates

CoD4 runs much better on Vista than XP.

By: a_tifosi

The naval battles run much better on hardware mode. By default, AOE3 is set to software mode since the average fps and the max fps is better. But you won't have such fluctuations like you do on software when you are running on hardware mode.

No amount of lowering settings/resolutions will solve the problem of naval battles in AOE3.

Do you really have only 512MB of memory?? Because in Vista the max amount of shared memory will be 64MB. It also means you have single channel.

To Eason: It seems you may be limited to 128MB because of the amount of system memory you have. Hmm, however that is for Vista, I wonder how its on XP. Weird.

(There also seems to be variants on the GM965, one being mini-note and another is sub-note. Regular GM965 is 500MHz core, and Mini note and Sub-note GM965 is 320 and 266MHz core clock respectively)

 

What programs/methods are you using to determine your clockspeed/memory capacity?

 

Thanks for the file. But problem is still the same or even worse. now i cant even see the trees and other things, all are blue. if i use my system.cfg file then i can see the trees. only the ground textures are blue. Btw i've dwnloaded the cumulative patch 1.4 but i cant install it. whenever i install it, it asks for the far fry directory and when i browse to the directory it again pops the same window. can anyone help???

 

CPU/RAM - CPU-Z

If you want to find better info about speeds of your x3100, get PCWizard2008

 

Well, far cry requires the updates to work with the x3100. Try uninstalling and reinstalling far cry from scratch, then update.

aside: I checked with Pc wizard, yup:
Total Memory : 128 MB
Texture Memory : 118 MB

We'll see if this changes when I get the other gb.

 

Hmm according to other programs(I can't remember which one right now) I have a GL960, but PCwizard 2008 reports 500mhz speed(GM965)..?
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Man, how could you be getting such good framerates on your laptop over mine if your GPU is slower? Are you sure you're using the 960 and not the 965? It could also be inaccurate that on the 960, the x3100 is underclocked.

 

me too, I have an amilo with GL960 and PCwizard 2008 reports a GM965... Everest and Sandra for now are more accurate. ciao

 

I think I know why now.

Your processor bus is at 533MHz. With 533MHz FSB processors, the IGP render clock is not at 500MHz. The IGP's clock goes to 400MHz with a 533MHz FSB CPU, which is equivalent to having a GL960. So yes, processor upgrades will help you in MORE way than just the CPU in some cases.

That means, Njoy's GM965 is also clocked at 400MHz since he/she has 533MHz FSB CPU. Which would explain the fillrate results.

The thing I don't get it how atthegates is using T7500. GL960 only supports 533MHz FSB processors. You might really have GM965 after all.

What I want both of you guys(Eason and atthegates) doing is run 3DMark2005 fillrate tests. All you need is to run the single and multi texture fillrate benchmark on the 3DMark2005 and report it to me.

(Actually it would be cool for everyone with X3100 to run 3DMark2005 fillrate tests for information gathering purposes, post your laptop model, and the specs)

@ Eason: Forget what I said about 1GB limiting your max DVMT. X3000/X3100 architecture datasheets say that the system can be configured for 128MB fixed memory usage, which might have been set on your BIOS and may not be able to change it. Yes, the limited shared memory usage might also cripple your frame rates.

WARNING: NONE of the programs are accurate in reporting the specifications of the Intel IGP. Only way to figure out is using the datasheets. For example, GPU-Z reports G965 having a 5.33GTexels/s fillrate(667MHz x 8 ROP), which is inaccurate. G965 has quarter of the fillrate(or even less according to test results).

 

My chipset is reported as GM965, but the north bridge - as GL960. With the T2370 I had before my FSB was 533mhz, with T7500 now, the FSB is 800mhz. Maybe the CPU(and FSB) upgrade allowed the x3100 to go at 500Mhz?
Will do the test, downloading now. Should I do it in Safe Mode? Or just close all the apps?
Thanks a lot about that info btw, +rep.

 

Thanks. There seems to be lot of mis-interpreted info even with the manufacturers. On the datasheets, GL960 is meant for value and the only available FSB support is 533MHz. It could be that there is some confusion between the two chipsets since they are so similar!

You do not need to run it on Safe Mode. Just run it with all apps closed. You ONLY need to run the two tests, not everything. You can't run the feature tests until you have a registered version, but I am sure you can get over that .

(Its CRITICAL that 3DMark2005 be run for consistency in scores)

 

Amilo pi2512 (GL960, Pentium T2370 1.7Ghz) - XP SP3, 1Gb ram, Video Driver 14.34

Fill Rate - Single-Texturing 408.1 MTexels/s
Fill Rate - Multi-Texturing 954.8 MTexesl/s

 

Aspire 5715Z, GM965 T7500 2.2Ghz FSB800 2GB RAM XP SP3 14.34

Fill Rate - Single-Texturing 536.3 MTexels/s
Fill Rate - Multi-Texturing 1028.0 MTexels/s

Damn it, I wish I would've done this before the cpu swapping..

Edit: Yeah I think I do have GM965, because as @IntelUser said, GL960 supports FSB up to 533mgz FSB, and I do have a 800Mhz FSB. And another thing that I don't quite understand though, is that GL960 doesn't have a PCI-E x 16, only PCI-E x 1, and, according to Everest Ultimate, I do have PCI-Ex16 whatever this means

http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/GM965/index.htm

 

Now things are getting interesting!

Maybe PCWizard is wrong, but it also says my core speed is 500 Mhz, despite my celeron having a 533 mhz bus. I'll see what it says after I install my T5550. I am downloading 3dmark2005 right now, I'll run the fill tests asap.

 

Run it with the Celeron first and post the results, then run 'em again with T5550. One day when I have nothing to do, I'll put my T2370 back and run 3dmark 2005 to compare..

 

Maybe u can give me ur old T2370 I am on a Celeron

*starts to cry*

 

Where are you from? Sending the cpu to USA will cost me 30 euros..

 

Sorry had to get to work, but when I get time I'll run the benchmarks. I almost cried when I thought the heat sink would stop the CPU from being removed, but with a little finagleing I managed to slip the old one out and get the new one in.

I did have time to run CS:S benchmark, I went from 42.2 fps average to 50, and Quake 4 runs probably twice as fast if not more, due to the dual core support. Interestingly enough, STALKER still chokes my computer whenever looking at anything other than the ground, and I'm so annoyed with the game that I feel like uninstalling it without futher testing.

Regarding the memory of the X3100- I feel like when I initially got the laptop with Vista installed, it had 256 mb available. After changing back to XP, that's when it started with this 128 mb thing. When the drivers in Vista for the x3100 catch up to XP, I'll upgrade and see if it makes a difference.

 

Yea, the results aren't conclusive yet. Mmmm... sorry for inconvenience, but could you guys also run 3DMark2006??

The datasheet actually displays multiple render core clocks for both the GL960 and the GM965. I think that could be the IGP version of the speedstep.

 

T5550: Single: 625.7 MT/s
Multi: 1193.5 MT/s

Celeron 540: 478.4 MT/s
868.1 MT/s

on XP SP 3 1gb 667 ddr2, 80gb 5400rpm

I do believe it's confirmed my memory is set to 128 mb in XP, low/medium/high memory footprint seems to have no effect. But I swear, in Vista I had 256. Can anybody else with a lenovo back me up?

 

Which tests? The same? I'm getting almost equal results..

 

Why is Eason getting so high in fillrate results compared to atthegates?? Eason's IGP does seem to run at 500MHz with T5550 and 400MHz with Celeron M.

Nothing is making sense anymore .

 

I don't get it either..This week I'm receiving a Hitachi 320gb 5400rpm, will do xp/vista fresh installs(and fresh IGP driver installs) and do the tests. See if crappy OS affect the benchmark. My XP is for reinstall/reformat right now..