Intel X3100 users rejoice! It's finally here! New Pre-Beta Drivers

where are these 14.36 drivers

 

http://www.opendrivers.com/driver/2...4.36.0.4969-windows-xp-x32-free-download.html

here they are

 

thank you for the quick reply

 

i still do not have the power options...wonder if there is a registry key i could edit.

 

Yeah i don't have it as well but at least my FPS went sky high on GTA SA, to bad a lot of the textures are pink!

 

Perhaps textures are pink because they aren´t being processed, that´s why fps got so high...

I still think X3100 has a lot of power locked inside waiting for a good set of drivers to release it but I supose that will never happen.

 

Alright there are three versions of recent Intel IGPs. One is still based off old GMA 950, the other is a crippled version, and of course there is the full functionality version. Intel calls GMA 950 based devices Gen 3, and the X3000/X3100 devices are Gen 4.

Gen 3(GMA 950/GMA 3100): The chipsets using GMA 950 are 945 based chipsets and the GMA 3100 using chipsets are G31/G33/Q33/Q35.

Gen 4 cut down(GMA 3000): The chipsets using these are Q963/Q965. The main difference between the regular Gen 4 and the cut down versions are these cut down versions do not have hardware T&L/vertex shader capability and can only be done by the CPU.

Gen 4(GMA X3000/GMA X3100/GMA X3500): GMA X3000 is G965, GMA X3100 is GL960/GM965 and GMA X3500 is G35.

The Gen 4 devices are all the same architecture and do not need different drivers for it, even the cut down functionality devices.

I don't know how much it can be gained by drivers. I don't think it'll be a lot. The Gen 4 devices have 8 Execution units which feature 2 cores per EU and 2 threads per core, and by looking at pure shader performance that would put it equal to 1/2.5 of the AMD 780G(40 shaders in 780G vs. 16 cores in X3000/X3100/X3500). AMD 780G is 2.5-3.0x faster and they have good drivers so I guess the GMA X3x00 can gain 10-20%.

That is assuming 1 core of the Intel IGP is same performance as 1 shader unit of the 780G.

 

here's a question...

I ran GPU-Z just to see how much ram the x3100 was using.. it shows up as 8mb, no matter what time I run GPU-Z.

It scores a 2.6 on vista experience. anyone else have this?

i know it allocates ram depending on what is going on, but shouldn't aero at least use 32-50mb?

 

I partially solve the problem of cpu usage by the iglxsrvc.exe process. I found a dirty workaround, overwriting the iglxsrvc.exe and iglxsrvc.dll files for the ones used in the 15.9 drivers. Now, I can use the 15.11 vista64 drivers, but i can't access the control panel of intel graphics... If anyone finds a better solution, i'll be grateful.
About the new drivers, i found a performance increase in 3DMark03, from around 1750 3dmarks to 1980 3dmarks, so something has improved. Did anyone see this too?

Lifted84: the 8mb that gpu-z shows is the "dedicated" memory of the card.
You can see the total memory allocated in the info page of the driver's control panel. My Vista experience is 3.5, in a C2D T5550 and 2gb of Ram, your score seems a bit low... can you post your pc characteristics?

 

if your playing san andreas just put the graphics to x16, the performance is better, theres no lag on my stock acer apire 5315 and the graphics arent that much different(only the colour seems to be washed out and brigther) best of all its not pink

p.s. anyone know of good mods for S.A (preferably full conversions or map mods)

 

I'm playing GTA SA too with the stock drivers provided on Lenovo's page for my T61. I do not see any lag, I set the distance draw to half and at 1024x768 the game is as playable as it was on my T42p.

I'm fairly new to using alternative drivers, do I really need to install those to gain more FPS on my X3100?
I'm using XP SP3.

 

Its inconsistent though, GTA SA is good at times, not so nice at others

Fantastic game though

 

i just want to know why some people have power options and others dont. its bugging me

 

thinking of moving back to vista...how much of a performance hit should i expect with the newest vista x3100 drivers installed.

 

I've just updated the driver to 14.36 and encountered the "pink" problem like Satyron in GTA:SA, however, that fixed the same "pink" problem (14.34) and lost textures in Mafia: COLH and the performance seems to be better in Dungeon Siege II (from avg 16FPS to 20FPS), Mafia and Tribes: Vengeance.
And I still haven't found the power option like the screen posted in some last pages.

 

Ok, To everyone out there saying Call of duty 4 WILL NOT play on an x3100 chip without hours and hours of tweaking and moding, heres what i got for ya.

System specs are
Dell Inspiron 1525
Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit
Intel Pentium Dual Core T2370 @ 1.73ghz (2CPU's)
2GB RAM
DirectX 10
Mobile Intel 965 Express chipset family (Mobile Intell GMA X3100)
220gb HD

Now, after my girlfriend got this laptop (2 weeks ago) i did nothing to it besides install cod4. With 640x480 res and all setting on LOW i get a framerate between 15-50(Outdoors) Indoors it usually runs steady at about 35-50fps. This was done playing multiplayer. I tried playing single player but the first mission lags beyond anything i have ever seen. Im sure with a new driver dedicating some memory to video would help a ton, If thats even possible. Im no computer god so i wouldnt really know. To sum it all up, COD4 IS playable on an x3100, Been pwning noobs on this 1337 setup all day. ROFLMAO!!! Have a good one guys

 

I found that after I upgraded from my T2310 (1.46ghz) to the T7100 (1.8ghz), my WEI went from 2.6 to 3.0 in graphics. lol

 

is there some new vista driver available after the 15.11 ones?

 

I've done some searching and i haven't seen any. As of now im looking to see if/when we will see another vista patch..Ill post if i come up with anything

 

Do most people run vista or xp for gaming with x3100?

 

Well since the x3100 does not have any dedicated video memory i would say it probably runs better on XP since XP uses less system resorces than vista.

 

even with 2gb of ram? Is it possible to install xp alongside vista premium on a notebook that came with vista premium?

 

You sure can. Memory wont matter if you decide to do so since you will only be running one OS at once. Heres a link to a tutorial i found about dual booting. http://windowssecrets.com/2008/02/14/01-Make-your-computer-dual-boot-Vista-and-XP
If you dont like that one just search google for a dual booting tutorial.

 

A "raw" XP SP3 only with basic drivers it´s the best to play games though if you have a mid-level PC with 2Gb of RAM or more I doubt you´ll see many differences on fps as X3100 is much more limited than the rest of the system.

Advice:
- XP SP3 only with drivers installed (so no unused things loaded on memory)
- Defragmented HDD
- 7200rpm HDD SATA of latest series (best performance on cache, etc)
- Dual memory configuration @ 667MHz or more
- overclocked system/CPU (+cpu +bus +memory speed = better overall performance)
- turn off energy savings

Overall experience should be better on these conditions, generally not because maximum fps will change but more important, because minimum/medium fps should be higher or more stable with less pauses.

 

seem like CPU power doesn't help the X3100 too much, I've try many games on some laps here that have CORE 2 DUO (mine is Celeron) and the x3100, compares to my laptop there's little improvement (in most of the games there's no improvement at all like COD4, Half life 2...)

 

Well, it´s known that X3100 works @ full speed only with CPUs with 800MHz bus + 667MHz RAM (dual modules) so if your Celeron / laps´ C2D are 667MHz ones (bus) and 533MHz RAM it won´t make a big difference. My C2D (T7100: 1.8GHz, 800MHz bus) when I changed default RAMs (533MHz) for 667MHz I noticed some good differences in gamming and for the results I see here my combo it´s performing very well for a X3100.

Though as always X3100 is meant for *very casual* gaming or simple games (I use emulatores, CS1.6, PES 2008) so anyone playing frequently should think on buying another laptop or a gaming console as Intel won´t make any big changes on these platforms. Intel is updating IGP to allow more compatibility with newer games to run = DX9._/10._ games but they refer to *simple* games. Sometimes, just by supporting DX10 games we may think it´s capable of great power and those fancy good-looking games but that´s wrong. Intel IGPs are made for fluid video playback + simple 3D (though DX9/10 extension capable) games. That´s why I bought a 12" laptop as I knew I wouldn´d play much on it, it´s for work/1080p HD video (on TV by HDMI connection) and that it does perfectly.

Nevertheless my future laptop (2011-2012) will still be a 10-13" but it will sport a ATI/NVIDIA graphics as I don´t support lame drivers.

 

Datasheets say both 667MHz and 800MHz FSB CPUs run the graphics core at full speed as long as the memory is also at 667MHz. The Pentium Dual Core and Celerons are 533MHz FSB parts.

Of course, if you have the GL960 chipset, you'll never get the full performance as its a value chipset.

I realized Intel does not care about 3D in their integrated graphics. They only care about enough performance to run windows well and have "Vista Premium" certification. The latest Vista Premium required DX10 support which is why Intel rushed their DX10 driver.

In the latest Intel Developer Forum presentations, they barely mentioned anything about 3D performance and features, it was all about HD video acceleration.

In the desktop, G45 no longer has $4 premium over the P45 parts, and Intel doesn't have their own G45 ATX parts. They have micro-ATX and mini-ITX boards though, which means they want to focus on video for HTPC folks. I guess they realize average folks only need to watch HD video and not do much in 3D(which is true for the most part), and for full 3D people would get discrete graphics.

 

Well in part they are right but on laptop / HTPC IGPs are very important as discrete cards take too much space So...as Intel is the top performer on CPUs and IGP market on laptops/lots of HTPC is dominated by them, they could offer a IGP that could at least offer a 3D level as good as the low-end card from ATI/NVIDIA of same generation.

They are right not offering mid and high end performance but low end performance would be nice (and not sub sub sub low end)

And if focus is on video playback, they only managed video playback (DVD, HD) without major problems on these last 2-3 driver versions. Until 2008 video had several problems with standby, tv-out, hdmi, flash video doesn´t work with hardware acceleration, etc, this >6-8 months *after* X3100 was released...

Intel on graphics only for basic things (like office, web browsing, basic video playback) like Eee PCs

 

I've seen HTPC folks that would throw away their discrete cards to make their system low power as possible and quiet and run on the integrated graphics instead. More than 90% of them do not care at all about 3D performance.

X3100-The focus here was for meeting Vista Premium compatibility specification. The latest Vista Premium requires DX10 support. The due date was June this year. They met it(barely).
X4500-The focus here is for HD video acceleration. X4500 has seperate command unit for HD video acceleration to improve performance in that aspect. The last 3 months of the drivers related to the X4500 has done much more than they did to the X3100 in past 2 years!

The low power version of the X4500 on the GS45, will have the ability to boost the graphics core clock higher than normal JUST for running HD smoothly.

 

There are mid-range graphic cards the work passively (eg: ASUS EAH3650 SILENT/HTDI/512M, Sapphire HD 3870, etc), a friend of mine bought one HD 3870 a few months ago *passive* for 170€ (@ that time, now they cost 110-120€ so you can build:

- C2D E7200 2.53GHz (+-93€
- ATI 3650 512Mb Silent (+- 70€
- Passive cooler for the CPU from ASUS (25-40€
- Passive power (25-50€
- 2Gb of memory (cheap)
- cheap motherboard with 7.1 on-board *or* dedicated audio board
- 500Gb HDD 7200rpm (55€
- custom made case (25-75€
- DVD recorder (25€

Then thru software/BIOS you can reduce CPU / ATI GPU voltage even further and even change dinamically CPU/GPU speed-voltage. For 300-400€ euro you can build a *new* and *silent* HTPC perfectly capable of x264 or VC-1 1080p HD video and very acceptable 3D gaming On this example I gave you (and you can even go down with -cooler- Celeron CPUs as graphic board/drivers handle perfectly most work silently) you hear... the HDD! And this with very low consumption...

My friend bought a Quad Core + 4Gb RAM + Dual 750Gb HDD, etc rig so he spent (a lot) more for coolers/passive power

Intel has to give us X3100 owners (Windows-Linux-MacOX) a lot more quality/speed drivers

 

True, but no power management features are perfect. That's why discrete cards consume more power even in idle mode, with all that 300+ million transistors.

Beyond that, I don't think they'll lose marketshare not catering to 3D market more than they are doing now.

 

Well, with HD formats appearing and 2-year CPUs not handling well 1080p, HD was a marketing tool and fashion for some time now. But today´s C2D CPUs can perfectly decode 1080p and it doesn´t matter if it´s the GPU / CPU putting the efford as you won´t watch a movie & playing a game so...HD marketing tool is over and noone cares if they optimized X4500 for HD as a x3100 or 950 can put 1080p on screen.

If Intel doesn´t go for 3D they really won´t have nothing to brag about and as soon as we see other brand IGPs + C2D support Intel won´t be in a good position.

 

That's totally bizarre, I can't explain why you're getting frame rates that high and why your HL can read over 99 fps.

 

i get nowhere near that and Im using XP with the 14.36 drivers - i get 20-50 fps in open gl

 

how can i run CSS in open Gl

 

vsync? if on you'd want triple buffering or you can suffer vastly messed up frame rates.

ideally you'd want to test max frame rate with vsync off though.

 

I have no idea too I didn´t change a thing on drivers/configs but the resolution/color depth (in-game) and I disabled energy savings on Intel drivers

Perhaps I have a "turbo" X3100 Shame it´s only on CS, if other games ran so well as this one... Test Drive Unlimited for example is not fluid at any resolution aswell as many other games...

My cousin´s laptop (Core Duo 1.6GHz, GF 7300 mobile) runs Assassin´s Creed perfectly @640 (or whatever the worse resolution is) and mine´s (Core 2 Duo 1.8Ghz, X3100) it´s a joke

 

They won't have much to worry about. The Core i7's are gonna integrate memory controllers and having a 3rd party chipset means that the IGP will have to be far from the memory controller. The memory bandwidth will also become limited by the CPU-PCH connection speeds. By then, Intel's IGP-on-CPU will have an advantage.

Havendale/Auburndale will have DMI x2/x4 connection for CPU and PCH(Platform Controller Hub, one chipset integrating everything), which equtes to 4GB and 8GB/s bandwidth.

In contrast, Intel's IGP that's on the CPU will have 21.3GB/s bandwidth+lower latency.

Now they will have AMD to worry about. But it won't be as big of a problem.

 

There's no turbo X3100, but there are 2 versions of X3100, which will also have different core clocks depending on the CPUs used.

Those having Core 2 Duo CPUs will have the advantage of having full clocked IGP vs. Celeron/Pentium Dual Core versions which will have much reduced speeds.

There are also differences between XP and Vista. In desktop, the X3000 performs generally better in Vista, but with couple of games for laptops it might similar.

 

Well, if the graphic performance is good enough, than that bandwith worths it. Though, if it´s not the case (as I think that IGP-on-CPU is just to save money/energy and a little more performance is a "side-effect") than that bandwith is just catching rain... And generally a medium chip + fantastic driver is better than the other way around. Just see a XBOX 1 + XBMC software and what it can pull of that old hardware: there are much more modern PC´s that crawl doing half and only win on raw performance (like decoding HD streams)

PS: I was joking about the turbo X3100

 

I know haha.

 

I just updated the driver to 6.14.10.4977 yesterday, and now I can only play Devil may cry 4 for about 15 mins before getting a IGXPRD32 error.
I started to wonder when will Intel release a solid driver for the x3100?
Has the problems with Warcraft III been fixed in the newest driver?

 

I'm also curious if the Warcraft issues have been resolved. So, will this driver update be more trouble than it is worth?

While we are on the subject, I have a question re: integrated drivers. Having been used to NVIDIA for so long, I have never really known the best method (i.e. most stable) for upgrading Intel video notebook drivers.

Is it:
a. uninstalling the drivers and installing the new ones,

b. updating the drivers via the driver tab (as is shown on the readme texts of Intel),

or
c. some other method which I am unfamiliar with?

 

It´s as simple as it looks: just run the drivers executable and it´ll do everything. After reboot you are set to go.

 

Is that the demo or the retail version?

The demo played fine for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAEQagSVS3I (and yeah, my webcam sucks, sorry).

 

I don't have any experience with integrated drivers, do they come with some sort of configuration menu, such as NVIDIA's or ATI's drivers where you can adjust 3D settings etc?

 

My DMC4 is the retail version, honestly half of the time it's look like slow-mo but it's ok with me though, I've got through mission 9
@monkeynut: even ATI and Nvidia intergrated VGA have the same configuration menu with their non-intergrated counterpart. Intel has configuration menu also but it's less detail than Nvidia and Ati's

 

Then this won't be a fresh driver install then? Will there be any leftover junk from the previous driver? And will that present minor issues (glitches in stability and/or speed)?

 

How come? Those drivers can be used to install for the first time (fresh OS install) or to update (uninstalls previous, installs the newest)

 

Same problem here with 15.11 (vista hp 64, 4GB, T7700 santa rosa X3100). Quickly restored to 15.10 (which came via windows update I guess). It's a MSI PR200, slightly upgraded. I upgraded because blu-ray picture does not show up using powerdvd (sound is ok).