Intel X3100 users rejoice! It's finally here! New Pre-Beta Drivers

Im running at 1024x768 all high settings except shader detail is set to low and AA is off. Last test I got 56.86fps.

 

How can you guys be so "happy" with your X3100? My Macbook Air has a 9400m, which is very crappy as per any gaming standard. Even that, it blows away any laptop with a X3100 in it. So, which kind of satisfaction can you get from it? Why don't just you buy something else? Your GPU is totally garbage and can't even handle video decoding properly. Even a netbook with an Atom processor and a Radeon 3200 would beat your current setup. Just my two cents...

 

It used that integrated graphics were in ultraportable computers. That's not true anymore though. Let's take a Sony Vaio Z. It weights 3 lbs, has a core i5 CPU and a Geforce 330m GPU, all in a tiny package.

 

I don't use my M1330 for gaming as it's my portable machine but why is trying to squeeze out the most out of a GPU a bad thing? I don't know about others but I just do it for the fun of it. Plus if I ever want to do some light gaming while on the go, it'd be better than nothing. Besides, I still think the M1330 is the best built and designed 13" laptop despite being 3 years old which is why I bought it recently. I used to have an M1530 which I really missed but since I already have a 15" laptop I bought the M1330. M1330>SXPS 1340

The good thing about integrated intel graphics is that you won't have video card problems which is the #1 component that fails in laptops. That's why I changed my 8400m gs motherboard to an intel even though it still worked fine. Just for the peace of mind.

How on earth do you get such high fps?! Are you doing anything else to improve performance? What driver are you using? I'm using the one dated 23/8/09 which I believe is the latest.

I'm running W7 Ultimate as well, but I have a faster CPU and more RAM, yet you're getting like 15fps+ more than me. Doesn't make any sense. Strangely though, all the other forums and videos I've seen mention the same improvement as mine. None mention improvements as great as yours..

 

8.15.10.1930.

 

That's what I have

What is your WEI rating for gaming performance?

 

My WEI for Gaming is 3.2

 

thinkpad tablets are lovely machines but still all using intel IGP's :/

 

I chose x3100 over nVidia 8600 deliberately when I was buying my M1330. I do not game on it (I rarely game at all, but when I do then I have my desktop for this). I use it mostly for productivity tasks as well as browsing, email etc. And sometimes my son watches cartoons on it, that's why I would not mind to get HD acceleration of flash on it, but even if not, the CPU can pretty much handle it just fine (and it does accelerate non-flash HD video using Windows Media player in Win7 or WMPC-HC for mkv files) . Overall I am satisfied with x3100, it does almost everything I ask it to do, it's just human nature to ask even more

 

back to issues with the drivers

win7 -
q3radient, netradient mapping applications are unusable, their openGL displays either do not update properly, or do not work at all depending on if aero is running or not.

quakelive is unplayable if aero cuts out the screen goes totally grey, but if you restart aero it is fine.

It seems with the current x3100 win7 drivers openGL display is dependent on aero
:-/

 

I have CS:Source. You could try using a custom config file. Just google it for CS 1.6

 

i dont recommend beta drivers .. other programs can get instable and crash your system

 

To what are you referring may I ask, this thread moved off beta drivers over a year (or two?) ago, there haven't been any, only an official release or two since then.
It's just the thread title is unchanged.

Or has someone found some new betas ?

 

Wishful thinkning, ah-hah-hah!
P.S. But indeed, has someone?..

 

Yeah, I have the same problem on my Thinkpad T61 with X3100 graphics, Aero has to be enabled for OpenGL apps like Quake 3 to work at all. :\

 

I take it development of drivers for this card under Windows 7 has ceased. It has a been a long time since I've seen any progress whereas the series 4 or higher is getting a new driver almost bi-weekly.

 

Can any one download this? GFX_Vista64_15.12.6.64.2039_PV_Intel.exe
I'm getting errors when i try to download it :S

 

why dont ppl give up tweaking this card :S

 

I think it has something to do with the fact that chipset graphics cannot be upgraded.

 

The most driver improvements could possible improve existing performance levels would be by 10-20%.

I gave up and went a DIY ViDock instead. No complaints with the 10-20 times (1000%-2000%) increase in performance the desktop HD5750 gives. I can have portable gaming too using only the internal LCD.

 

Yes, 64-Bit Download Link seems to be broken, while 32-Bit Download is fine. Can't find it on opendrivers either:
Intel Display and Video Driver Download

But didn't search extensively.

 

Has anyone tried to use an external USB Blu-ray player on this card? I'd like to get this player, but it's anybody's guess whether or not it will play smoothly.

[edit] Yep, this card can play blu-ray.

 

I have updated the original message to explain the thread title as it can not be edited unfortunately.

 

A moderator can rename your thread if you make a request to them.

 

Yup, you can always report your post to have the title changed or PM me.

What would you like the thread title to be? If the scope of this thread has changed significantly since it was first created, it would be better to start a new thread though.

 

Just 'Intel x3100/4500 drivers' would be move appropriate, it's not my thread though.

 

it's looking increasing like there won't be any driver releases this year, or even perhaps ever again for the x3100

It's a real shame, it's actually not all that horrific if you don't want to do serious gaming.

My only real complaint is unlike for any other 3d card, the x3100 win7 drivers require aero to be enabled to render openGL. This makes a ton of opengl applications impossible to use, as they cause (or even force) aero to drop out, so then the openGL areas just go grey

 

I dont think the x3100 has reached EOL stage just yet. However, its highly unlikely that Intel will release new drivers. Hopefully the guy over at gmabooster.com will get his program to successfully overclock the x3100. Even then, I dont see much of an improvement.

 

I agree...

Intel x3100/4500 Drivers

 

Last time I emailed the gmabooster author he communicated he could not improve X3100 performance. So that leaves dual channel RAM, a FSB overclock - PLL pinmod if necessary, or a DIY ViDock to get faster graphics.

 

Ahhh... I remember the X3100

That was a glorious time . Handily smacked the Intel Extreme 2 I had

 

I honestly don't care about performance at this stage.
I just want a major incompatibility problem with them to be addressed, opengl should not depend on aero being active in win7.

I can't use netradiant at all because of it for one example.

 

I haven't tested much yet, but I got some OpenGL apps working after installing the latest DirectX runtime from Microsoft the other day. At least a few things worked, I'll try Quake 3 when I remember to.

edit: .. or not. I could have sworn the other day I got some OpenGL working without Aero. It's also a thing that pisses me off greatly.

 

hello!
Did anybody succeded in flashing a new vbios version for the x3100?
Me and many others from the italian forum hwupgrade.it are looking for a way to control the frequency of this integrated video card.
More specifically the problem that a lot of people is facing is that upgrading the cpu of some notebooks (like hp 550) with one having an higher fsb (like 667 or 800mhz) also the video card fsb comes up and the system becomes unstable (video card crashes!).
Maybe a modded vbios could solve this!
(and many many users become happy!)

 

Yes, the chipset sets a different core render clock speed based on the FSB. See the relevant details extracted from the datasheet here.

The gmabooster author looked to see if it was possible to change the core render clock on the X3100, giving up. Now you can see

Device 0/2/0, offset F0-F1h Bits 12:8 Graphics Core Display Clock select

does say it can be altered in the datasheet. Doing so after bootup however has no effect. If you can find if the VBIOS has some code that sets that bit then could effectively change the core render clock.

Wish you luck in figuring it out.

I actually believe the problem with the HP550 is the gfx_VID pins. There's probably not enough voltage to drive the video card at the higher frequency.

 

thank you very much indeed nando4!

Maybe our problem could be solved in that way, because what happens is this:

Once turned on (almost every notebook equipped with x3100 card, GLE960 chipset and cpu upgraded)
would boot but freeze when loading video drivers, BUT if rebooted (not switched off) everithing is perfectly ok and any game or benchmark would run with no problems.
So the only issue is that when cold booting the operating system (any, we trided from ubuntu to mac leopard) video card freezes probabily because of the higher fsb (that would be reset after the first reboot).

So we think that altering fsb values in vbios (or just updating it) would do the job, but we do not know where to put those exadecimal values.
Thanks and best regards!

 

I'd suggest bootup with DIY ViDock Setup 1.x in DOS, check the core render clock speed with setpci, checking what the bits are as shown here.

Code:

setpci -s 0:2.0 F0.w

Then reboot with CTRL-ALT-DEL and see if it's changed.

 

It seems to work, but this change is not permanent I guess

I understand that X3100 Core Render clock is FSB dependant, my aim would be to find a way to put the Core Render clock down to its original value even if system fsb is higher (due to higher cpu fsb) in some permanent way. Damn to this GLE960 chipset

 

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PC2-6400 (DDR2-800) spec RAM increased X3100 core render clock from 400Mhz to 500Mhz on 533Mhz FSB system

I accidentally found that if I flash my PC2-5300 RAM to be PC2-6400, my 965PM chipset equipped 2510P that runs at 533Mhz will now show the Core Render clock increased from 400Mhz to 500Mhz. Quite strange. Haven't really noticed any performance improvement. The 500Mhz speed does seem to be a little more overclock friendly. I would get occasional video hangs when I'd setfsb overclock my system with the 400Mhz setting. Haven't had one with the 500Mhz setting as yet which makes me wonder if it is in fact running a lower Core Render clock speed, one that is measured relative to the PLL clock?

See Upgrade your stock 2GB 667MHz RAM to 800MHz for free if you wish to try yourself.

This also raises the question, would 800Mhz FSB systems run a slower core render clock if they detect PC2-4200 (DDR2-533) RAM on bootup? That may help those doing large system overclocks.

 

Does anyone here know how I might get in contact with intel to complain about the lack of DirectX/OpenGL support when Aero is DISABLED in Windows 7?

I don't game on my notebook, but I do play Quake 3 and some other oldies from time to time, it runs Quake 3 perfectly fine but I have to enable Aero to do this, and I don't use Aero for a multitude of reasons.

Never had this problem with XP, I've tried the drivers from intel, the official ones for my notebook form Lenovo and also the one from Windows Update.

It's seems entirely specific to Win7+Intel's drivers.

 

hi n1hilist:smile:

i suspect intel deliberately disabled opengl support on x3100 on windows 7 to force people to upgrade to their latest stuff.

however, if you are interested on making it to work. there are ways to do so

1. you can just download already modded drivers

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2. you can mod a vista 4500mhd drivers and make it work for your x3100 and the OpenGL acceleration will be present(mus be the zip version, 15.​​13.​​6.​​1908 is the last version of vista drivers that will work, anything higher will not work.

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here is the instruction on how to mod it
source: Adobe Forums: CS4 GPU Acceleration and Intel X3100

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BTW here's the procedure to mod drivers yourself (I modded newest vista drivers, the ones for win7 crash immediately after startup):


Go to the [Intel.Mfg] and change %iCNTG0% its value into iCNT0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A02 ------------- (2A02 refers to your PCI ID *Mine in this case* -- You can obtain this from device manager)


Here the changes you need to do for x3100

from:
Code:
%iCNTG0% = iCNT0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A42
%iCNTG1% = iCNT1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A43
%iEGLG0% = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E02
%iEGLG1% = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2E03
To:
Code:
%iCNTG0% = iCNT0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A02
%iCNTG1% = iCNT1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A03
%iEGLG0% = iEGL0, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A12
%iEGLG1% = iEGL1, PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2A13
you can at this point stop, but I found in my laptop the performance gets bad unless you change these (In our example you should apply this):
Code:
[iCNT0.GeneralConfigData]
MaximumNumberOfDevices = 2
MaximumDeviceMemoryConfiguration = 512

[iCNT1.GeneralConfigData]
MaximumNumberOfDevices = 2
MaximumDeviceMemoryConfiguration = 512

[iEGL0.GeneralConfigData]
MaximumNumberOfDevices = 2
MaximumDeviceMemoryConfiguration = 512

[iEGL1.GeneralConfigData]
MaximumNumberOfDevices = 2
MaximumDeviceMemoryConfiguration = 512
To:
Code:
[iCNT0.GeneralConfigData]
MaximumNumberOfDevices = 2
MaximumDeviceMemoryConfiguration = 256

[iCNT1.GeneralConfigData]
MaximumNumberOfDevices = 2
MaximumDeviceMemoryConfiguration = 256

[iEGL0.GeneralConfigData]
MaximumNumberOfDevices = 2
MaximumDeviceMemoryConfiguration = 256

[iEGL1.GeneralConfigData]
MaximumNumberOfDevices = 2
MaximumDeviceMemoryConfiguration = 256

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3. if you want more performance for your games, i suggest you use software vertex mode for your games. the faster your processor, the better the fps cause all the rendering will be done on your cpu.
there is a tool called Intel Display Adapter Management Tool
it can change your games from hardware vertex mode to software vertex mode all done via editing the registry using this program.
all you have to do is add the executable of your game then you select change vertex processing mode

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Isair's Programming Heaven: Intel Display Adapter Management Tool 2.0

 

oh and i forgot

you would know if the installation is successful if it shows it is 4series chipset



if in case the already modded drivers fail to install(in which that is my case)
you need to do the #2 in which modding the drivers yourself and look for these on the device manager and replace the 8086&DEV_2XXX on the igdlh.inf or igdlh64.inf with the values on your device manager

 

Thanks for the tips, I'll try during this evening.

If the pre-modded ones are suitable then I'll stick with those, as time is a bit short now.

Edit: Links to pre-modded ones from the Youtube vid 404, so I'll have to make my own.

My next Thinkpad is going to have nvidia/ati, man I hate Intel right now.

I don't need blazing 3D speed on my laptop, since I have a Radeon 5870 on my main rig - just dx/opengl working without Aero, stupid Intel.

 

masterjumong2012, do you perhaps have a working Win7 x64 modded driver I can use? From what I've been reading it's not possible / buggy on 64bit Windows 7

 

can you go to your device manager> you open Display Adapter> then you open GM965> click Details> under properties you choose hardware id's then you take a screenshot and upload it here ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting
then you copy and post the direct link here
edit: what i want to see is this

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i can edit and upload the drivers for you

 

here's your modded driver

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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U9EI9NVD

make sure you uninstall your current driver and make a reboot because if you don't, it might conflict with the modded one's and give you problems in the long run (crashing, bsod, etc)

edit: also after you install the modded drivers, it will automatically set all your applications to stretch on screen(if 4:3)

to fix this, just right click on your desktop>
then select display properties>
then select display settings>
under Display Expansion select Aspect Ratio>
then you select Maintain Aspect Ratio and click Apply

 

Thanks

I'll report back in a short while after testing

As long as Quake 3, some other small games and Google Earth work I'm a happy guy.

 

i also recommend you try this tool
Intel Display Adapter Management Tool 2.0

all you need to do is
Select vertex processing mode For Specified Executables>
then you click Add Executable>
then find the place where the program is installed( usually @ C:\Program Files\ or C:\Program Files (x86)\
then you select the file that says application on Type or .exe then select it and click open>
after that it will appear on the list and it will be on XXXXX.exe Vertex Processing Mode:Hardware>
you select it and click change Vertex Processing Mode and it should change from :Hardware to :Software

example


i have massive performance increase on Warcraft III(Dota) by changing from hardware to software


you could also try doing that with google earth