Meaker BREAKS the record! 8289 (8700 GPU score)

Only DOS flashing works. Simple then and I have put electrical tape over the gaps but that's it.

 

Is that you HTWingNut or have someone taken over your account? I thought you previously said that this VBIOS only gave "diminishing returns"? 15% more FPS in Crysis 2 and 15% more FPS in Metro 2033 than your max overclock, with the temperature increasing by max 2C. Nothing fancy...

What made you change your mind? Have you finally seen the light like the rest of us?

 

cloudfire, cloudfire, cloudfire. Tsk Tsk.

Anyway, posts were deleted in case anyone was wondering....

 

As I noted previously, I'm primarily interested in the fix to the bouncing speeds / power fluctuations that occur even with minor overclocks. Although I will likely push the limits as Meaker did, but not sacrificing temperature or stability of course.

 

Temperature and stability is perfectly fine with the VBIOS

Not shure about the power fluctuations though, perhaps Meaker can elaborate on that. But as you have seen in the thread, the improvements are real

 

I guess I was referring to this: http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...12v-single-mobile-card-wr-10.html#post8729822

" It stopped the clocks from bouncing up and down erratically, some power limit programmed in it was hitting into. "

So perhaps not power fluctuations just power limit causing to bounce up and down even with minor overclocks.

Meaker - are you using the BIOS cloudfire provided as is? Any modifications? Just used nvflash? I guess I'm ready to try this and see how it goes.

 

Yeah, he was referring to the VBIOS I have him

 

Modified further for overclocking yes.

The original did not bounce at "sensible" speeds, its only when you unlock it and go further it starts.

A good sign is the first test of 3dmark 11.

 

Here is a scary thought.

This 680M is getting overclocked the same extreme score as the stock 570M did in performance mode.

 

Mine did not bounce except with Furmark or Kombustor. And with the OC BIOS that I was using that had the power limit or whatever it would definitely bounce but I could still get it to about 900 at stock voltage before it would crash.

 

They were intelligent enough to stop the purposeless argument and I strongly recommend you not to try to start it again. While it is now clear that the 680m is more powerful than the 7970m I still don't understand what this boasting is about. It was well known since the announcement of the 680m that it will have to OC impossibly well to be a better buy for the money and despite the great OC capabilities, it's still not enough in this regard.

P7125 --> P8456 = 118,68%
$500 --> $800 = 160%

That means every extra % of performance costs 4x that of the 7970m. Of course I'm not saying that people shouldn't buy the 680m, but for me the price gap is not justified by even this level of overclocking, and considering that both cards are more than capable of running anything I'd rather get a 7970m, a 256GB SSD and keep a 100 bucks.

 

680m is more powerful than 7970m, I am s ure that this is the consensus since the beginning..

The weird thing is, we have people trying to take credit over something they have nothing to do with? if Meaker was saying something I can understand but there are a few people who doesn't even own either card but still trying to argue with others who own it... weird. That being said, nice scores Meaker, I think it worth every single penny over 7970m.

 

in your statement you said it's senseless argument, yet you injected more fuel into saying "it's still not enough in this regard" about the cost vs the OC ability of 680M. Is that a unanimous answer from EVERYONE? I mean really, if you are implying people are intelligent enough to stop the debate, you certainly are on the stupid side to trying fan more fire into it.

What gives you the right to answer for everyone whether the cost is REASONABLE for the OC ability of 680M?

 

On a purely $/FPS the 7970m wins hands down. But there's always more to it than that for each user. Best we should do is be subjective with our findings and let users decide on what they want to buy.

 

Who cares what else someone bought, HD7970m or GTX 680m, as long as he or she is happy with want they bought.
Side Note: its funny that Nvidia had to use their second best GPU(GTX670)to beat AMD's third best GPU(HD 7870)...very strange

 

Isn't the 7970M based off of a HD7850, not the HD7870?

Regardless, awesome overclock potential on the modded 680M!

 

That 2nd best gpu is the 675M actually.

 

+1 Rep Meaker.

Thanks for taking a chance with VBios flashing.

Very informative and it worked!

Also, what's the max OC/ Overvolt that is stable 24/7 for gaming?

 

Let me quote it again for your convenience:

"but for me the price gap is not justified by even this level of overclocking"

As I was saying I don't intent to start an argument, that is why I carefully tried to emphasize in every sentence that this is only my opinion and that I understand everyone who buys a 680m. Seems like for the ones who's brain switches to flame mode after seeing a sentence about the 7970m it still wasn't enough though...

Regarding the topic, it's pretty awesome that the card stays this cool for such a high level of overclocking. Wish my desktop GPU could go that high ^^.

 

Oh I see. Was wondering where my rant/sermon went

Sent from my HTC Glacier using Tapatalk 2

 

Oh lots of posts gone......

Btw I am really confused now.

The 7970M is definitely best for the cash, but once you OC or just play it reaches high degrees.
This isn't the case with the 680M.... I'm in the process of building my own machine, and even though I can help others with this question.....
- I've managed to confuse myself... thanks to this vBIOS! This is insane, and it kills me to know I can't have such power.

I am personally not in need of a new laptop, and I'm thinking of waiting until the Haswell new nVIDIA release later this year... maybe next year

sorry for hijacking and going totally offtopic

- would be nice if someone could be answer me via. PM
-- thanks in advance

 

If i can add my 2 cents, everything needs to be put in perspective.

Look 680m is a BEAST, and it runs at 70c max? My 7970m under heavy oc reaches 74c, and my 16F2 didnt have this awesome cooling system (is a single fan system afterall).

So i dunno but as long as i get temps below 84c, i still consider the card cool. And this is with OC. At stock is even more cooler....so dunno, maybe its a matter on how u look at things, but as i said, theres a necessity to put everything in perspective and in context.

Afaik AMD has been always hotter than nvidias, 7970m proved to be both great and cooler. I wouldnt call 78/80c with OC after 2 hours of BF3 that "hot" - its still decent compared to last gen, or compared to the cards im coming from, which were more and more hotter.

thats all

 

Actually, the preliminary results from the 680m are what led me to go with 680m over a desktop upgrade. I was going to get an Ivy Bridge setup for my desktop, and would have had to replace CPU, GPU, motherboard, PSU, and another hard drive, all of which would have cost me over $1200. The 680m demolishes the 460 in my desktop, and I get a mobile machine.

 

For me it was an easy decision to go with the 680M, because my whole setup is for 3D video editing and some of my softwares like Media Composer simply won't work on ATI either.
And to almost tripple the performance of my 580M/675M with an OCed 680M...COME ON.

 

These sorts of OC should be obtainable on the Alienware 680M, correct? The 2GB mem should't be a hindrance at all?

 

Assuming the dell vbios plays nice.

 

GUYS IMAGINE what a notebook will be able to handle in 2014\2015... wow

 

We wont see such a large jump until we see another process switch.

 

Well that is why i said 2014\2015 cause that is when we have a leap in the gpu department. (cpu is 2013)

 

Lol what really sucks is I got my Laptop a few days ago...........With only 1 GPU and only a 240w power adapter.....................I was a little upset when i talked to dell. How it took them a month to get me the wrong laptop, by my buddy juan up there at dell is fixing everything fast. Will have a call tomorrow and hopefully will be installed and fixed by the weekend.

But the reason i posted this is because i have a quick question. Do i have to have a modded vBios in order to OC the 680m at all ? or can i just do mild OC's with the stock vBios?

 

You should be able to do mild OC's with the stock BIOS. You will likely be limited to +135MHz on the core but unlimited on the vRAM. All depends on what Dell did/did not lock down though.

 

man that would suck if you cant oc the 680ms in sli like meaker did. im interested to see how many fps you get in bf3, if you can oc it i bet you could get 120fps on ultra then you could run it maxed in 3d.

 

Hi guys,

I got the BIOS from Cloudfire (same as Meaker) and flashed it onto my card.
But somehow at stock clocks using 3dmark 2011 its not going over the gpu-z graph.

Somehow its only using 324 MHZ GPU Clock and 648 MHZ Shader Clock

Any suggestions anyone?

 

Sorry double post

 

Are you certain it's the same BIOS as Meaker's? I thought he had some changes done by svl7.

 

Well cloudfire told me its the same as Meakers.
Actually after an restart it is utilizing everything like its supposed to.

But somehow in 3dmark 11 its not using my whole CPU during the CPU test I have a 2820QM. Seems like its using only one core instead of all 4?

But at least the vbios issue is gone after restarting my system

 

hey Htwingnut, what happened to your 11"?

 

Does someone who runs a 680m could try a few games for me? I want to know how much the performance gap is compared to 7970m.

I would like to know how Alan Wake American Nightmare and Shift 2 Unleashed perform when maxed out (fps reading).

Thanks

 

The performance gap (w/o enduro) is like 5%-10% in favor of the 680m, from what I've gathered. As for FPS numbers you can just look around for gtx 670 benches and the 680m numbers should be around 70% of that.

 

Hmmm, I'm getting 997MHz with stock voltage. But with the bottom plate on temps are definitely an issue. It reached 90C in under 2 minutes and throttled. Took the bottom plate off and peaked at 82C in Kombustor. I already have another bottom plate enroute to me though, so then it will be dremel time!

 

pau1ow have also flashed his GT70 with 680M with the VBIOS
http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi/674724-msi-gt60-70-gtx-680m-optimus-18.html#post8735623

 

Inspector shows the correct stock clocks of this VBIOS (902/2200) but the GPU is idling the time you took the screenshot. You can see it from the voltage (0.8370V)

Overclocked with the VBIOS its a heck lot closer than 70%

 

according to futuremark the average gpu score for a gtx 670 is 9310, so if you can get it to that then you have yourself a gtx 670 desktop in a laptop haha.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P8456 3DMarks here some one got 9025 graphics score. thats like 3% shy of a gtx 670 desktop. and i bet you can overclock more in an hm series since there is no optimus to limit it at all.

 

Hmm, this thing is rock solid stable with kombustor but 3dmark11 keeps erroring out....

 

I wish someone was able to test this vbios on an alienware m17x r4 or m18x r2 would be awesome!

 

Won't work, different vram size + type most likely. Right now its looking like Clevo/MSI 680M is the way to go. That's why I ended up choosing the upgrade route rather than buying an M18x-R2.

 

Some really odd behavior during 3DMark 11 Physics test. I can max the GPU core to 1054MHz with the higher voltage BIOS. But my video RAM, I couldn't go over +160MHz (1960MHz) because it would keep crashing during the physics test. For whatever reason I decided to remove 8GB of my 16GB RAM (2x4GB) and now I can overclock to +360MHz (or 2160MHz). I'm wondering if my RAM is unstable and how it relates to the Physics test and speed of the vRAM? Otherwise everything else runs excellent.

 

Nvidia bios do not care about Mem amount, they scan on boot.

 

I know, but it was restricting my vRAM overclock for whatever reason, and that's ONLY on the Physics test.

I couldn't get past +160MHz. Even so, it's still pretty crappy vRAM OC at 2160MHz.

I can get more out of my core with voltage but I'm limited to the +135MHz so 1053 is max.

Here's best I can do so far: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P8052 3DMarks

 

why dont you edit the vbios yourself, or ask whomever edited it to edit again to allow higher clocks.