Mobile GTX 1080

A possible new gtx1080 DT for laptops should have given a higher graphics score in 3Dm11, than my 980 which is clocked about 20%. A stock 1070 desktop card provides graphics score in 3DM11 at around 23660. A new Gtx 1080 DT card should not give 2600P lower graphics scores than a stock clock 1070. If this is the case.... Tragic!!

Gtx 1070 http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1070_review,27.html

Vs fake 1080 laptop card


My OC'd 980 and Win X

 

It's almost like this pre-alpha mobile card could've been running some unoptimized pre-alpha driver. Wild thought, I know.

 

You are right it is wild. The driver wont play into this, at least comparing against 1070/1080.

 

I'm looking for any reason to dump Alienware now, after ****e international warranty support, but I'm not accepting a lower core count GTX1080.

And 1080p? Really? For me at least 1080 pixels looks blocky to me, after only one month of using a laptop with a 4k pin-sharp screen.

 

3DMark 11 is a wonderfully reliable test of performance.

And I shall continue to use it.

 

+ 3DM11 push the whole hardware to the limit... More than Firestrike can do...

 

Sure it is, and no doubt about that. But not the best way tot est out new hardware.

 

3dm11 X then, it is agreed

btw, this could be the 1080M card that nvidia just randomly chose to rename to 1080 DT mobile. the ACTUAL 1080 DT mobile will probably be presented much later

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It's not that reliable. You can make 960m systems perform with excellent 3DMark11 P scores exceeding 980m or even desktop 980 but real world it's not even close in performance. It's also testing its performance at 720p. It doesn't show the limits of the card, or actual gaming performance. I understand if you want to compare performance between machines because it's been used in the past, For mid to lower end hardware I understand. They still struggle with 1080p high details, but for upper end hardware 3DMark 11 hardly shows its performance capabilities. It will stress your CPU and GPU for thermal stability because it's throwing out so many frames it heats up a lot.

I'm a benchmark fiend too. I enjoy it, and I like comparing performance and pushing limits. But when it comes to new high end tech 3DMark 11 really tells me nothing.

 

What I find a bit disappointing in benching is, that you most often can't use it in real life like gaming, etc. You have to dial down quite a lot to get your oc game stable. I can get easily +350/+480/+112,5mv in FS, in 3DM11 it's +300/+425/+100mv and in RotTR I get only +150/+220/0mv.

Although I enjoy benching as well, the real life Performance in oc it is, what interests me the most.

 

They will skip 11 series for desktop and rebrand 1080 mobile to 1180 mobile but full 1080 desktop card instead of cut down. XD Nvidia loves to milk....!

 

I agree completely. While benching is good fun, it's also a good way to test stability, but it in no means is a true test of stability. I've had 3DM11 crash on me repeatedly but everything else played fine, and vice versa. I used to play Battlefield 4 Multi-player for stability because it taxes every component of your system. Granted then you have to sit there for an hour or two at a time playing to test it, but that's not such a bad thing.

 

A lot of logic to this answer I must say.

When I purchased my new M18x R2, the 670/675s were the base config for the price. I'd been waiting for the 680M to show up as an option before pulling the plug, mindful that the 7970M was powerful too. Now, considering we don't all live in the USofA, prices can be MUCH worse then stateside for each and every upgrade we choose.

So, as it turned out, dual 7970Ms was around 400 to 500 GBP over the 675Ms, BUT the 680M was 500GBP for ONE, as I remember it, and over 900GBP for SLi, i.e two of them. (I could be wrong, but that is what I recall). So I said NO WAY, and trust me - I had the money.

I bought the 7970Ms in crossfire, which I initially regretted due to driver issues, but they did later clear that up.

I was very happy with my 7970Ms in the end, but when newer / bigger games came out, think Advanced Warfare, I believe the 2GB VRAM ceiling was a limiting factor, and Crossfire performed so bad ~10fps, that I got rid of the whole machine for an Alienware 18 (which, incidently, is dead as a dodo on the desk right now). Primary GPU failure suspected.

The dual 880M GTXs @ 8GB each, have shown SLI to be far smoother than the Crossfire setup, but I'm wondering if the vastly higher amount of VRAM affects that equation, because my favourite, MW3, performes equally on either system.

So, if AMD delivers the goods for the price, polaris it could be. But I'm thinking of splashing out on a SINGLE 1080M, if the specs / price / performance satisfy, and dump my two 880Ms on a well-known auction site. With the intention of adding a second - as second hand prices fall.

We've been on 28nm far too long...

 

when will1080m make its way into laptops? I sold my old Alienware and upgraded to the top of the line surface pro 4 and hate it. Going to ebay the surface and buy a slim gaming laptop with the 1080m

 

slim and 1080m....theres your problem

 

You could definitely get one with a 1070M whenever they finally come out. 1080M? You won't see anything "slim" with that.

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Alienware 15, gigabyte p35, asus g502vy aorus X5 have proven Gtx x80M can be fitted into slim and "portable" notebook. Most probably the gtx 1080m will be near to gtx 1070 specification with lower clock imho. Saw some leaks here and there

 

Not including the list above, there's also the Clevo P650S/RG.

 

There are slim laptops with soldered-on 980m GPUs, I don't really see why the same couldn't be true for the 1080m.

 

Where? I haven't seen any.

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Alienware 15/17 is somewhat light for the specs

 

Yes. The same aw15 that starts at 7lb and is an inch think. Yes that's the picture of a thin and light. Absolutely. Wtf.

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Exactly. I had a AW 17 R2/R3 and it was massively chunky to the point where I couldn't believe this hefty machine could possibly be BGA, let alone with such piss poor cooling capability. AW never has and probably never will qualify as a thin and light gaming computer, unlike the razer blade and MSI ghost or P35

 

Alienware 15 is 3Kg and has very good cooling. I personally have it with bios A06. The gtx 980M never went past 64 degree celcius during long hours gaming. I use gelid extreme tho. Another slim one is Asus GL502VY. My friend has is and it's awesomely light

 

Temperature is only one aspect of cooling. It also has to be quiet. How loud do your fans get?
I prefer thicker laptops (like the G752V or the GT73 series - the latter seems to be a real beast with SLI Graphic Option and 120hz display) - heavier but cooler and quieter.
Back 2 topic: I´m really itching to buy a new gaming laptop, but I want the next one to be a big next step. The 980M is almost 2 years old now and still 28nm, the new 1080 will be 16nm.
So im really waiting for the new generation to offer a very nice performance boost over the previous generation.

 

Being loud is much better than being heavy. Noise can be cancelled by using earphones. but weight is still weight . Laptop should be mobile enough not to hinder you around while having strong performance

Of all the Nvidia Gtx x80M that i've had since fermi, i must say the Gtx 980M is the best of all time overall. It's fast, cool, overclockable and can be fitted into small laptop. Fermi n kepler could not do it.

Let's see what gtx 1080m can bring about. I'm gonna buy it in september/october

Last leak is it has 2048 cuda cores and scores around gtx 980ti in 3dmark firestrike

 

It is all a compromise and I'd rather put up with an extra kg for the quietness and I carry my laptop to work everyday.

Does anyone know when the 1080 will be available in a laptop and if so what brands?

 

Tones of Clevos have soldered on 980ms. I'll list some examples: EUROCOM Sky MX5, EUROCOM Sky MX5, EUROCOM Sky MX7, EUROCOM M5 Pro, etc.

 

the ASUS G-Series and the Acer Predator Series also have soldered on 980ms.
The last companies offering MXM Solutions are MSI and Clevo. It´s a shame, but as long as the soldered GPU notebooks are being sold well enough, we will get to see more and more soldered solutions. A very nice way to increase sells if the GPU or CPU goes broke (or like the new Alienware generation the service sometimes has to replace the whole motherboard with all components on it a few times because one single component broke or had 4GB instead of 8GB vram... ).
Thats why i like Clevo and especially MSI notebooks (at least the "big" gaming laptops should have socketed GPUs, if the flat ones dont, I dont really care about that.)

 

Laptopmedia says it's gonna be announced on 1st august 2016

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia...PUs-for-notebooks-on-August-1st.168482.0.html

 

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They will.
That is what Nvidia has, does, and will for these new PCs. Bet on it.
This will be very, very expensive, and make the new Sager, AW, MSI gaming laptops coming out this fall to be way out of the financial realm for many people.
My bet is that they will charge the same price point for the new mobile 1080s as they did last fall for the 980m Desktop.

 

guys, last leak
this is the gtx 1070 full version inside asus g752VS

http://www.notebookcheck.com/Asus-ROG-G752VS-Erstes-Notebook-mit-GeForce-GTX-1070.168752.0.html

 

full version by name only. it wont perform like a desktop 1070 though...

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SOMETHING IS OFF HERE!
last leak from wccftech
GTX 980MX really?
how much milking does nvidia wants?
and From the rumors
gtx 1070 laptop will start at 2000 EURO
how about gtx 1080 laptop lol?
the GTX xx70 always starts below 1499$ no matter which brand
Ngreedia

 

If this is legit then 980MX is simply a joke. 2000Eur for gtx 1070 somewhat makes sense considering the GTX 980 Notebook still being a strong player in the market.

1080 will be the new gtx 980 desktop with price tags over 2800 Euro I predict.

 

more like your soul

 

Notebookcheck debunked a GTX 980MX months ago. Stop posting Wccftech like they're ever a credible source.

 

The 970M was a mobile version not like the now rumored 1070 desktop version. The 1070 desktop version is twice as fast as a mobile 970. That is a HUGE jumps in performance.

 

it just seems so only because they decided to change their naming scheme...

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This rumored 1070 and 1080 won't be equivalent to desktop versions in terms of performance and will be equal to desktop 1060 and 1070 respectively, so nothing is changing except the fact they are deceptively calling them as desktop counterparts but with reduced performance and HUGE price extra. The reason 1070(M) will be twice as fast compared to 970M is purely due to architectural improvements and node transition, which has always been the case but did not require so much extra money before, because there was at least some competition from AMD. But now when there is nothing competing in laptop space, Ngreedia has gone all in charging 2000 euros for 1070 laptop, while 970M one was at about 1300-1400 euros when it had just come out.

 

1070 mobile = "1080M" = true successor of 980M

so its pointless to compare 1070 mobile with 970M

same goes for 1060 mobile = "1070M" = true successor of 970M

as for 1080 mobile = gimped 1080 desktop, so not true successor of 980 mobile. its basically comparable to an "in-between" card in the middle of 980M and 980 mobile, leaving enough performance headroom to later release a true 1080 mobile. the rumored TDP levels would also point into that direction, with the 1080 mobile being rated at 150W, whereas 980 mobile was 180 / 200W.

 

I don't entirely follow you all the way through to the end. Are you saying that the mobile 1080 is in-between the 980M and the desktop GTX 980 for notebooks in terms of performance?

 

no, i wasnt talking about actual performance. it was just a comparison to clarify how nvidia changed their naming scheme of mobile gpus. let me put it this way:

TDP wise, the 900 series was the following -

980 mobile - up to 200W class
980M - 125ish W class
970M - 85 W class
965M - 60ish W class

(dont nail me on exact numbers, its just about getting a grip on TDP classes here)

now lets compare the upcoming 1000 series:

1080 mobile - 150W
1070 mobile - 100-125ish W class
1060 mobile - 75ish W class

so, if you look at the TDP classes, ull see that Nvidia took the 980M successor, dropped the M and classified it as "full" 1070 in notebook. same goes for the 1060 mobile.

the 1080 mobile, however, does not equate to either the 980M as a successor, nor is it a full desktop equivalent like the 980 mobile was. so its basically an intermediate card between the 980M class and full 980 mobile desktop class. catch my drift?

reasoning behind all these shenanigans: drop the M, sell ALL mobile gpus as "desktop class" and ask for a 50% price premium

 

Why do you think that mobile 1080 will not be close to full desktop 1080 (180W)? Is it because of temps?

 

Close to 180w graphics in all types laptop models who normally use 980m?
It's very few models that can handle more than 125w stock.

 

Thanks. Now I see where you're going with this statement. However, it should be noted that the 980M was also a gimped desktop GTX 980 in many regards that resonate with how the current so-called mobile GTX 1080 is a gimped version of the full desktop GTX 1080, save for the exceptional vRAM.

 

no i dont think normal gaming laptops (which were previously upto 980m) will ever see a 1080. Their highest supported card will be 1070. 1080 will be used only for the few laptops that can actually support it.
I think the laptop that we saw reviewed by Mr.Najsman could actually be a 1070 (as i remember correctly, the GPU was still named as generic nvidia card). The performance of that laptop was around 980TI level which is within the ballpark of desktop 1070.

But again this is all my assumption/hope, and i could be totally wrong.

 

Although strangely enough, when it comes to that unknown card, it has a higher shader count than the desktop GTX 1070 and lacks 512 cores compared to the desktop GTX 1080, just as the GTX 980M did with respect to the desktop GTX 980.

 

980 ti levels??well this is nice mates!!!!
do you think that p377sm-a has any chance for pascal cards??

 

yes. At that time i also thought it is 1080m but if i remember correctly, something else was below 1070. So in the end it performed like a desktop 1070.

It could still turn out to be mobile 1080, but i feel that with desktop 1080 comparable to TDP of Mobile GTX 980, it would make sense for nvidia to release 1080 as a successor to GTX 980. I mean if they gimp mobile 1080 to the point where it performs same as desktop 1070, then why not just use a desktop 1070 instead?

Having said that, its Nvidia we are talking about, and sense and logic is not the words normally associated with them.