Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker Update and Feedback Thread

@Robbo99999 Nothing could stop them being Overclock-able in software to be honest. Waiting on pads again so i can increase TPD i am going to need to buy stocks in Thermal Grizzly at this rate.

 

Thanks @Coolane this is so awesome!

 

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@dspboys
Wait what TDP did you mod your 1070 to?
How are you pushing 22637?
that's equal to or higher than a stock 1080 !

 

Just 190W. What’s surprising is the memory freq, mine can run 10Ghz. I have not pushed the mem freq farther but 10Ghz is fine without artifacting.

 

What's the offset of your memory?
You're using +1000 mhz offset?
Because +600 mhz is 9200 mhz. (2300 mhz x 4).
I don't think I've seen a single GTX 1070 *desktop* card that can do 10 ghz on the memory! That's impressive! But please watch out for damage. I would not keep it there 24/7, as I really don't know if that's safe.

 

Yup it is +1000 I’ll dial-down after the benchmarks. My max temp is 45C, room temps at 22C.

 

Wow, that's very good, I'm surprised, that's faster than my max overclock on my desktop GTX 1070! https://www.3dmark.com/fs/12818419

The VRAM overclock is massive on your laptop there! I think that makes a real difference. I can push VRAM a little higher than what you see in my benchmark run above to get a run of Firestrike, but it's not long term stable, although don't think I've ever got the 22637 Graphics score you managed. Interestingly, in your GPUz screeshot showing Texture Fillrate, I have an almost identical fill rate, but you have nearly 30 GB/s more bandwidth with your large VRAM overclock.

 

The newer 1070’s were equipped with 9Ghz vram right? I think that’s what happened with mine. It is a gsync model too. Yup I believe it is the vram that contributed a lot there. Using the core only at +167, I get 20600.

 

When you say newer 1070's, how much 'newer' do you mean? what manufacture date?

 

I don't think so, it's the desktop GTX 1080's that now come with faster VRAM compared to the initially launched product - I don't know of any other card in NVidia's lineup that has had it's VRAM speed increased since launch day.

 

Apologies for linking wfcctech
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-1070-1060-official-price-cut-specs-upgrade/

In gpu-z you can only see the date the gpu is manufactured but not the memory release date. It is safe to say gtx 1070s in the 3Q of 2017

 

That link only lists the GTX 1060 cards as having 9 gbps gddr5.
You would have to read the exact part number and things shown on the RAM chips of your card, but that's probably too much work to get to it, and may require a repaste also.

 

Ah, I didn't know about the GDDR5 speed increase on the GTX 1060. Right, I see what you're saying, you're thinking you've got the potentially faster VRAM chips of the later GTX 1060 models in your GTX 1070, so even though stock speeds are the same, you have a higher overclock ceiling because they're probably the same VRAM chips. Yes, makes sense.

 

Very impressive score! You have beaten my top record that lasted almost a year(21800 GPU score: https://www.3dmark.com/fs/11661315), !
Maybe you can strike for 23,000 by bumping the TDP to 220W with higher core clocks.

 

@dspboys , yep I'd like to see what you can achieve with further increased TDP and increased core clocks, I'd wager you can get quite a significantly higher score, as long as you're not temperature limited.

 

I’ll try it over the weekend

 

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@Robbo99999 @Coolane sorry to disappoint guys, I'm getting a lower score at 220W (<20k but above 19k). I lowered it to 200, the result is more or less the same (variance).

 

Well, you might need to increase the core clock as well as just increasing the TDP limit. Did you increase the core clock to your max stable value?

 

Max I can do is +161 on the core, it used to be +187 before the unlocking.

 

Yes that's because the higher clock speeds (at loads that would actually stress the GPU hard) would just get TDP throttled down anyway. I think I could do +225 mhz stable before the unlock (250 mhz stable in Firestrike and 3dmark and Valley, but Witcher 3 would just crash), but after 185W TDP unlock, +200 mhz in FS, Valley, and +180 mhz in Witcher 3 stable.

RAM is a different story. +600 mhz is stable 24/7. +700 mhz is stable enough for benches (got 21700 in FS, faster than 600), couldn't see any artifacts. Funny enough. +800 mhz benched higher than 700 mhz but there was visible flickering, even though I scored like 21830 or something (!). +900 mhz was massive artifacts right away.

Then I exited the test and set it back to 700 mhz, it ran fine, so then I loaded up Tencent QQ and League of legends (login client only) and the laptop froze instantly with multi colored spaced out squares around the screen all over (!!).

The last time I saw a crash like that was when I was trying to lock the "disabled" voltage steps on the 8A Vbios (which is locked to <0.881v) which I didn't know the voltage steps were locked, and I managed to 'briefly' make it get to 1.025v and even 0.925v when benching, but eventually crashed the desktop in idle 2D, and then when I rebooted the laptop, it simply froze before windows loaded. Had to disable windows 'hybrid' shutdown and other stuff to stop that. Thought I had destroyed my video card.

anyway....my max limits are +180/+700 @ 185W TDP.

 

Yep, so your previously posted score is your max stable overclock - still very good, I think you can be happy!

 

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14343977

21741 GRAPHICS score (oops), 18005 3dmarks, 4800 mhz turdbook, 185W 1070, +180 core +700 RAM

 

Slighty (very slightly) higher score than my overclocked desktop with 6700K & GTX 1070! Impressive! This is my best score: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/14342504

Certainly didn't expect your CPU to perform at the same level as mine in that test! With the GTX 1070 in your notebook, it's less surprising because the notebook version has more cores than the desktop version, and you've unlocked it to desktop power levels.

 

Can I use this the skypro for the flashing, its a BGA GTX 1070 btw as this is being sold in my home country (UK) the others are like china and shipping times are long: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SKYPRO-USB-SPI-EEPROM-PROGRAMMER-24Cxx-25Cxx-93Cxx-25Lxx-MX25U-1-8v/111638953538?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

 

Yes you also need to get the 1.8 v adaptor too.I use the skypro myself.

1.8v adaptor: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MINIPRO-...hash=item1a31443173:m:maExocCgVXeQH8yPN7WrhOw

How I did mine in the end was I bought the Skypro then bought : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CH341A-2...897073?hash=item25e5a9bfb1:g:IvoAAOSw0j9ZRke7

Just for the clips and the 1.8v adaptor.

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oh right okay,I already the have the SOIC 8 Clip: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pomona-52...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

So if I buy the skypro listed, the 1.8v adapter and these cables: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dupont-C...var=485054968481&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

Do i need anything else? Because in the pictures I keep seeing one more piece but am not sure where that is coming from, I will attach a picture showing it.

 

That blue board is an adaptor, the sky pro has one with it but you have to do some soldering, Or you could get something like this : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SOIC8-SO...124259?hash=item3f8d5567e3:g:AY0AAOSwx0FZkfCw which will give you what you need without soldering.

 

finally broke 20K graphics score with +150 core / +600 VRAM / 170W TDP

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14376151

recorded temps in the final analysis seem reasonable. I may bump up the max TDP to 180W and see how I go (so 151-180W).

 

Nice one @thegh0sts , you sure 180w will be safe though?

 

Well, I could be content and leave it at that.

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Hi Guys,

Just discovered this - do we still need hardware programmer to flash modded bios to desktop cards, or can we use NVflash to re-flash the bios after changing it?

 

I had to just get that clear because no one listed it
But thank you, you have been a great help

I will update about how it goes

 

Unfortunately yes.. nvflash is still not able to flash modded vbioses.

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thank you very much

 

Yes only hardware programming on pascal

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tried with a TDP of 180W and with the OC it crashed the firestrike test so I'll keep it at 170W.

 

What overclock were you using?
If it crashed, it may be because you overclocked to too high of an offset and it boosted to a speed (without throttling) that was unstable for the voltage target.
If you were not overclocking, then that's different.

I found Witcher 3 to be stable at +200 mhz overclock on the core, if I was using 151W-170W. However if I used 185W, that 200 mhz would often crash while the card was still warming up, so I had to use +180 mhz to stop it from crashing.

When I was at 115W TDP, I was able to use +225 mhz on the core. (because it was throttling like no tomorrow because of power limit!)

 

Yeah, I agree, I think it's better to have a slightly lower rock stable overclock but with an increased power target - I'd say that's a better move for thegh0sts.

 

hmmm....at 170W most games are hitting 85C with OCs.

 

Well, you could do performance comparisons using Firestrike at your max stable overclocks for different power levels & see which one gives you the highest score, then as long as you're happy with the temperatures associated with those performance states then you can choose accordingly. 85 degC is quite hot, but it's not throttling temperature right, or is it? I know on desktop cards throttling temperature is 83 degC as standard, but can be increased to 92 degC in overclock programs like Afterburner. What's your throttling temperature? I suppose I wouldn't want it to be banging up against the thermal throttling temperature all the time. (I would lower TDP values to stay under thermal throttling temperature, and/or sort out the cooling system to handle more heat).

 

85C on a 1070?! Are you using maximum fan speed?
what thermal paste are you using?

My 185W 1070 gets no hotter than 66C at max fan speed (usually around 63-64C) and at Auto fans, usually stops at 76C.

 

I'm using ICD7 as the thermal paste. I have my fans at full blast.

Firestrike temps were in the high 60s to low 70s (which is uncapped) but when playing COD WW2 that shot up to 85 just in the multiplayer hub area when capped at 90fps.

having a second screen active adds about 5-6 degrees.

When I let it run at anything above 60fps temps shoot up though I am running it at 1440p when firestrike is running at 1080p. I should try FS at 1440p, single screen.

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What is considered a safe load temp for a 1070?

 

I'd say anything under 83 degC is absolutely safe as that is the default thermal throttling temperature for Pascal desktop GPUs, and I'd say anything under 92 degC is probably OK although 'undesirable' - I say 92 degC because temp limit of desktop cards can be increased to 92 degC using Afterburner.

 

Ok i just double check because COD WW2 is peaking in the mid 70s at 1440p60 for gpu temps.

EDIT: I think that this is just specific to CODWW2 only as other games like destiny 2 do not do make GPU temps that high.

 

See if it's using supersampling or downscaling or a higher render scale is being set. Setting render scale higher than 100% in Overwatch for example is basically Supersampling AA and raises temps higher than firestrike or valley can do (by at least 10C higher!)

 

Looks like it's specific to CODWW2 cos even bumping up thre TDP to 170W and destiny 2 is still producing the same temps of mid-60s.

 

Hey @Falkentyne I got everything but my programmers software keeps telling me it's unable to find my chip. Any ideas? Or if anyone else knows?

It was the programmer that came in this package: https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/CH341A-24-...-SOIC8-to-DIP8-socket-SOIC8-Clip/162766897073

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I have no idea, but that seems like a REALLY cheap programmer. There is a reason that most people here recommended the Skypro/II or the programmer Coolane used. Because we know what chips it supports and support is always being updated. I hope someone else can help you with this. It looks like it does support both the Macronix and Winbond chips that have previously been listed. I think the problem here is that you cheaped out on the IC clip.

We told you to get the Pomona 5250 IC clip, and some male to female jumper cables to hook up the Pomona clip to the 1.8v adapter.
those prebuilt clips are usually VERY cheap, often won't stick on the chips, and often won't make contact with the pins properly. If proper contact isn't being made, detection will fail; e.g. the Skypro will report 0x0 on the read, while I don't know what yours will report.

Generally speaking, as long as pin-1 on the IC clip is lined up with pin 1 on the chip (pin 1 is the red stripe), and pin 1 on the chip is the SMALL INDENTATION in a corner (not the white dot, that just marks the bios chip, and that dot can be in any random corner), if you hook it up and fail to get a proper read, it's probably the bad IC clip at work.

Those premade clips with the SOIC8 adapter board often are even too thick to fit on the chip because there is often some IC blocking the 'head', because some of them are thicker than they should be. The Pomona 5250 clip has a very thin head.

What *I* used are the MALE TO FEMALE cables from this bundle:

https://www.amazon.com/Zoostliss-12...d=1513226551&sr=8-5&keywords=zoostliss+cables
(male end goes to the 1.8v adapter, female end to the Pomona IC clip pins)

and https://www.amazon.com/CPT-063-Test...F8&qid=1513226611&sr=1-1&keywords=Pomona+5250

Using the Pomona clip, it is VERY VERY easy to get a read because the clip fits EXCELLENTLY on the chip, and makes full contact !