Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker Update and Feedback Thread

Don't know whether i should do this cause i managed to get the aw 15 r3 heatsink to fit and work properly right know with pretty no core differentials with liquid metal... don't know if i should risk that

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Speak to @woodzstack for an MSI 1070. They can make a deal.

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Probably not with a 240w PSU. I've gone over 240w with 170w TDP but I have a 330w PSU.

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I'm running 195W bruh! Be brave. Be like Falkentyne.

 

Really? with what temps?


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max fan speed: GPU + 200 (with 1.025v voltage lock, or without voltage lock, curve flattened past 1.025v, otherwise with "basic" +200mv direct overclock, witcher 3 crashes driver past +135, probably cuz of pascal BS with power limits causing voltage to drop too low for GPU clock boosting too high; with lower TDP this doesn't happen), RAM +700. Temps 62-65C depending on ambients.

Auto fans: 76-78C.

 

Remember, they are also using a mxm card so an MXM 1070 is not equal to the BGA version.

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Holy moly who is using a bga one ..

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They are also using a low wattage PSU and their motherboard is funky with the power delivery. Also, most of us have at least a 6 heat pipe heatsink to adequately cool the gpu.

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Okay you all guys got clevo notebooks am i right?

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@Falkentyne does not: they have an MSI laptop.
@Coolane and I have the same clevo model: P870DM-G.
@Timbabs123 is one BGA user. They are plenty more.

What I'd suggest that BGA users do is just set the TDP to 115-151w (adjustable) just to see what happens. Because BGA has less heatpipes for cooling you may not get the temps that an MXM user is getting.

151w is the desktop 1070's base TDP and that is enough to be just a bit faster thanks to the extra CUDA cores. If you get an FS graphics score over 18k then that is fine.

I think it is better to treat the BGA version separately from the MXM version due to the nature of the BGA design not being the same as MXM. Plus we don't want to give false impressions to BGA users.

Know your limits.

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We also need to clarify on the context of the +XXX value for VRAM speed. Are people basing it on:

1. The value you enter into nvidia inspector

OR

2. The total difference from stock speed

I ask this because apps like GPU-Z, 3DMark, and nvidia inspector read the VRAM speed differently.

Nvidia inspector reads it at 50% - ie. 8 GHz is read as 4 GHz in nvidia inspector.
GPU-Z and 3DMark both read it at 25% - ie. 8 GHz is read as 2 GHz.

So, as an example, my +300 is based on the value entered into nvidia inspector. The total overclock would be +600.

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doubled value is added (DDR) value: +700 in my case=9400 mhz effective. So +500=9000, +600=9200.

(e.g. from base RAM clocks, 2250 x 4=9000. 2300 x 4 = 9200, 2350 x 4 = 9400, etc, so the double data rate is added (then doubled again).

e.g. 4500 = 9000 mhz (+500), 4600 mhz=9200 mhz (+600)., 4700 mhz =9400 mhz (+700).

BTW we're using Afterburner usually.

 

Ok so at half the actual speed difference.

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Yup, always here

Thanks for the mention Gh0sts

 

hi! could you please add support for pa70hs-g? I attach the vbios

 

I don't think it's reliant on laptop model. So I don't see why you need support added as it should just work.

EDIT: I see what you mean. have you tried flashing another clevo VBIOS instead?

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Man, my 1070 refuses to go higher than +150 on the core clock

testing +500 on VRAM.

EDIT: Looks like 3DMark is playing up so tried unigine superposition benchmark.

 

Some games/benchmarks are gonna be stable at higher clocks than others. I based my overclock on the most stringent games/tests available so that I know it's stable in everything. For my GTX 1070 for core OC the Graphics Test 1 of Firestrike Extreme on a loop was the best test for stability. For VRAM OC the Timespy Stress Test was the most stringent test. Unigine Superposition I could get silly high clocks, as well as in Unigine Heaven.

 

Hi,

I have an ISSI IS25WQ040 Eprom.
Which programmer can i use for this chip?

 

SoftTech SP-16B

Chip List
http://www.sofi-tech.com/upload/product/SP16/SP16F_List.htm

Ebay Listing
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sofi-SP16-...092853?hash=item239637c5b5:g:~UMAAOSwGzhaL3vZ

the TL886A does not support this chip at the moment: http://www.autoelectric.cn/MiniPro/MiniProSupportList.txt

 

it doesn't, do you think I have not tried before I post here, haha

I am going to try flashing p6xx 1070 vbios once I get my hands on it.

the problem is that pa70 models throttle on GPU when reaching 70-74 to 1468mhz and locks there until reboot. both 1060 and 1070.

 

how about just flashing a clevo MXM 1070 VBIOS? Not sure how much of a difference there is though

EDIT: Just curious, what's the device ID? probably means another clevo vbios might not work How about just editing the ROM file with a HEX editor and flash it?

I see why it doesn't work because the tool is looking for a specifc string of hex values and it can't find them.

 

I have tried changing the ID's on my MSI GTX1060 it didn't boot after, I simply changed the ID's on a stock vbios dump and flashed it back and it showed a blank screen if you manage it let me know how you did it.

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Is the msi 1060 an MXM? If so you shouldn't have to modify the device ID and the app should be able to detect it.

I do believe that even there is a bios for the 1060 you can download and flash.

https://us.msi.com/Laptop/support/GT62VR-Dominator-6th-Gen-GTX-1060.html#down-firmware

You may need to download and flash the gsync vbios and see if that boots. That's the latest I could find.

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Yes bud my GTX1060 is an MXM I tried to mod the ID's in vbios the ending string of 11FF to 11AF so I didn't have to mod the driver each time. This is what I though you was on about hence me replying with changing ID bricked card.

I am after a GTX1070 in standard MXM 3.0 size from eurocom as my last upgrade for the system. That way not only can I test it for every one I also hope to dodge the faulty revisions of the GTX1070 MSI cards. Hopes this cleans it up better.

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This is definitely something out of your wheelhouse.

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You can actually do that, as I have managed to change it.

Just run the modded vbios through this tweaked and it will boot if you modded it correctly.

Are you upgrading gt72?

 

Yes that is what i am upgrading lol, will PM you!

Edit: Thats what i upgraded my system with. LOL

 

Hi,
i orderd the TL886A yesterday, but it has a really Long delivery time. So i used my CH341A flasher. The eprom was identified as unknown, but i can read the bios.I checked it with an hex Editor and it was the same like the clevo one. So i tried to flash a modded Version ( go up from 125 watt to 126 watt) and i only get a black screen at start up. Wrong modding or a Problem of the flasher?

 

No love for the Skypro II here? Or even the Skypro?
I mean it requires a 1.8v adapter (not like that's hard to find) unlike the SoftTech SP16-B, but I'm surprised.

If you can actually find a battery for it (batteries are not shipped on international shipments), you can flash your vbios without even needing a computer or even a USB cable attached to it (of course you would have to upload the vbios into the flasher WITH a computer first).

BTW, *IF* anyone here cares (and I have a feeling no one does, but hey...maybe SOMEONE does):

 

Sorry for that questions,
but i am really a rookie in Hardware flashing. The last years i only worked with nvflash, the CH341A was only for backup , if something goes really wrong.I have the 1,8 V Adapter, need it for a quadro card.

 

I used it for my BGA gtx 1070 and it worked fine, what seems to be your problem?

 

not sure why you bought a programmer that doesn't list your eeprom chip as a supported device...but whatevs!

 

As I said, buy a Skypro/II but everyone loves ignoring me for some reason.

http://www.coright.com/product/showproduct.php?lang=en&id=55

ISSI: IS25LQ025B; IS25LQ512B; IS25LQ010B; IS25WP020D; IS25WQ020; IS25LQ020B; IS25WP040D; IS25WQ040; IS25LQ040B; IS25WP080D; IS25LP080D; IS25WP016D; IS25LP016D; IS25WP032D; IS25LP032D; IS25WP064A; IS25LP064A; IS25WP128; IS25LP128; IS25WP256D; IS25LP256D;

 

@woodzstack do you anyone know what screw type the MSI GTX1070 uses on its X-clamp? The heads on my screws on mine are starting to wear so I am looking for replacement screws.

 

Do you mean the tiny screws , the 4 on the X-bracket ? Stock they are black ?

Depends on the X-bracket to be 100% with you. We have ones from DELL that are larger and ones from MSI that are different then the ones I use in the cards I sell, which are the Clevo ones, if that is what you are wondering.

If you show me a picture of a screw I can tell you which... it would be hard to tell by looking at the X-bracket.

Worse case, I can exchange with you an X-bracket with the matching screws, new. These come off easily ocne you know how to , they are stickered on essentially.
removing them is easy, just hold the card firmly and put the poles out one by one and the glue that holds them as adhesive should give away.

Hope that helps.

 

Yes, the 4 small black screws for the x-bracket. I just need screws that are compatible with the MSI 1070.

Here's a pic of the screws (with a ruler for reference )

 

I think I can get you 4 tiny black screws, send me PM with your shipping address again.
I know I have it in my notes from the past, but always good to get it again.

 

@Mr. Fox has the TL866/A and it worked for 1080 Clevo mxm?

 

It's dependent on the make and model of the EEPROM chip being used. if you don't know what it is you can use nvflash to find that out. Simply type:

Code:

nvflash --check

And it will show you the manufacturer and the model. They're usually a soic8-150 chip anyway. Once you know that you can look up the chip on the supported device listing for the TL866A/CS on autoelectric.cn.

 

That's odd.


I booted the P71 (Quadro P4000M) on dGPU mode and used the command nvflash --check but it says that "NO NVIDIA DISPLAY ADAPTERS FOUND".

I had to use the nvflash official version (not the certs bypassed).



@Coolane does Quadro card vbios work with your editor?



W25Q40EW 1.8V W25Q40EW 1.8V @WSON8 W25Q40EW 1.8V @SOIC8 W25Q40EW 1.8V(OTP)
W25Q40EW 1.8V(OTP) @WSON8 W25Q40EW 1.8V(OTP) @SOIC8 W25Q64BV W25Q64BV @WSON8

 

In terms of a quadro vbios working? probably not v 1.11.

The EEPROM chip you mentioned is this:

http://www.winbond.com/hq/product/c...erial-nor-flash/?__locale=en/&partNo=W25Q40EW

So you'll need a SOIC8 clip adaptor.
the TL866CS/TL866A and the SP-16B support the chip.

have you tried to save the vbios and open it in the tool?

 

have yet to open up the machine, will do soon

 

You can save the vbios through nvflash.

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Oh right I haven't tried that yet x_x

When I get home I'll do that, going to be tonight

 

I have both, and both work equally well. I am indifferent as to which one to use, but I like the aesthetic of the software with the TL866A better than the Skypro. Obviously, that is totally unimportant. Coright does an excellent job of providing frequent firmware and chip support updates. Every time I go to use the Skypro there is an update available for it.

What determines whether or not the chip is detected correctly is the software used with the programmer. If the chip is not in the list included in the software database, you'll have to manually select one close enough for it to flash without issue and force it (disable verification). Using the 1.8V adapter between the alligator clip and programmer is required with Pascal GPUs.

 

@thegh0sts @Coolane

P4000M Quadro (Lenovo, MXM Type B w/o power connector)

The highest I've seen this card do on benchmarks are around 72-75w, mostly 70w or below when sustained. (hwinfo 250ms polling)



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Firstly try and make changes to a copy of the vbios and flash it. If it fails to boot then you can always flash it back.

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that's just standard screw, that is very common to be used in notebooks.