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    Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker Update and Feedback Thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Coolane, Jun 20, 2017.

  1. hans12321

    hans12321 Notebook Consultant

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    I habe already used lm :). Temps are really fine in my opinion for that thin chassis with the tdp mod.

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    hans12321 Notebook Consultant

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    These were my "optimal" and stable scores. Tdp reaches in games/benchmarks up to 136 watts.

    I don't want to go any higher due to the thin chassis.

    @Danishblunt

    What are normal scores for this tdp limits?

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    115TDp has ~17000 Gpu score.

    If you reaches ~19000 you must have 125TDP or higher version of 1070
     
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    Absolutely incorrect.
     
  8. hans12321

    hans12321 Notebook Consultant

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    [​IMG]
     
  10. hans12321

    hans12321 Notebook Consultant

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    And what power brick and notebook are you using?

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    Doesn't matter. It's 115W TDP.

    220W or 330W, same result.
     
  12. Z3us_PL

    Z3us_PL Notebook Consultant

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    yeah, you know better from the magic glass ball. I had 1070 and the maximum power that was taken was 115W. TDP Tweaker tool also showed that I have 115W. On stock was ~17k Gpu score Firestrike. The same results on almost all NHL and others tests/reviews when stock 1070 has stock turboboost ~1650Mhz on stock 115W. Everyone has ~17k on stock 115W TDP only you have something more as usual....

    All 1070 who reaches higher then ~17k gpu score on stock has higher TDP limit than 115W.

    Oficial tests:
    Here: https://www.kitguru.net/lifestyle/m...com-sky-x4e2-laptop-review-i7-7700k-gtx-1070/
    Here 2: http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/eurocom-tornado-f5-msi-16l13-review/
    Here 3: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Eurocom-Tornado-F5-Notebook-Review.189496.0.html
    Here 4: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schen...17-Clevo-PA71HS-G-Laptop-Review.284844.0.html
    Here 5: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-P507-Clevo-P651HS-G-Notebook-Review.193074.0.html
    Here 6: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Eurocom-Tornado-F5-Notebook-Review.189496.0.html
    You want more?

    If you have ~19k gpu score on 115W show us screen shot of hwinfo gpu power drawn after 3dmark test.
    Regards
     
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  13. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    I'm not sure what he meant about modding the card but the same overclocked scores is posted in this link http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/p375sm-a-vortex-1070.826175/
     
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  14. Z3us_PL

    Z3us_PL Notebook Consultant

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    Vortex 1070 is Msi Card not Clevo (diffrent shape and slightly size). Msi 1070 gtx's has higher TDP limit on stock as I said before.

    If he shows us screenshot of hwinfo gpu power drawn after 3dmark test (3dmark score and hwinfo on the same screen) then we will know what tdp limit reaches his GPU.
     
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  15. Danishblunt

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    The lack of knowledge is disturbing.

    You do realize once you undervolt the GTX 1070 it will give you 19K score @ 115W TDP right?
    The fact that you're apparently completely oblivious about this is hilarious. You really need to learn how to do a voltage curve before writing ur crap.
     
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    Z3us_PL Notebook Consultant

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    In MSI card yes, but MSI 1070 card don't have 115TDP limit.

    Your lack of knowledge is disturbing.
     
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    Not only is your lack of knowledge disturbing but your ignorance as well.
    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/188722/188722
    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/188454/188454

    You drunk, go to bed

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...80m-to-msi-1070-upgrade.821153/#post-10764038

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Z3us_PL

    Z3us_PL Notebook Consultant

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    Hwinfo from last 4 minutes running + 3dmark score, this is solid proof.

    That screen you shown I could fabricate even on my old P170SM with gtx 880M.

    And hahahahaha :D :D you linked to the thread in which the forum member writes that he has bottleneck on 115W TDP and only when he increased to 140W he managed to achieve above 19K gpu score.

    hahaha nice job....
     
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  19. mambo1111

    mambo1111 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Guys a fine tuned or fixed voltage curve does not increase the performance (gtx 1070) on 115w or 125w. You need min. 150w to "unlock" the voltage curve otherwise it doesnt matter whether you OC with a slider or play with the curve.
     
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  20. Danishblunt

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussion-thread.794965/page-401#post-10546486
    You are an actual clown. Download the vBioses presented to you and check for yourself.Of course you won't do that because you know u're so wrong that it actually hurts.

    Where the hell are you clowns coming from?! The amount of sheer stupidity coming from you and the PL guy is insane.

    Why the hell would undervolt not work on a power limited card. What kind of logic is that?!
     
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  21. Z3us_PL

    Z3us_PL Notebook Consultant

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    If you read this topic from the beginning, you would see on what limits tdp you get what results (including uV).
    in all posts you post, you get a higher score only after increasing tdp above 115W.

    At 115W, no matter how low you go with stable undervolt, you will not get ~19K gpu score on 1070.
    I've tested this many, many times on my 1070.
    You have higher tdp limit on your card than 115W, you just do not know it, so I forgive your ignorance

    But it's cool. Live in your dream world.

    Still no screenshot of your Hwinfo from last 4 minutes running + 3dmark score.
    Show me that your card don't go higher than 115W with your "great" uV.
     
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  22. Danishblunt

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    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/32916894?

    [​IMG]

    Seriously seek help. The amount of ignorance and lack of knowledge hurts.
    Just because you cannot figure out how pascal cards work doesn't mean others don't.

    Just because you are incompetent and cannot make 115W cards work at their max efficiency doesn't mean people with knowledge can't. It's not my nor anyone elses problem, but don't spread misinformation and lies just because you cannot handle the truth.

    #rekt, gg no re.
     
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  23. Z3us_PL

    Z3us_PL Notebook Consultant

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    Finally, I've got it, real proof :), thank you for this. See how much time and text we would save if you did it at the beginning. Cu
     
  24. Danishblunt

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    Having to prove something that is common knowledge is downright ludicrous. If you had bothered to do actual research you would know that my score isn't anything unusual and you would not have to make a clown out or yourself claiming crap like MSI cards dont have 115W TDP etc. The only cards that have 125W TDP are AW cards.

    But yeah, ignorance and lack of knowledge, you better start doing research before claiming crap.
     
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    Oh, I never said it was not possible :D. I've been waiting all the time to prove that the card, YOU have is doing hi performance only with uV. Thats all. You got caught like a little kid, you can not close the discussion with one screenshot.

    Admit that you perversely like to cringe on the forum: D
     
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  26. mambo1111

    mambo1111 Notebook Enthusiast

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    its just +200 core and insane +650 mem. there is no curve because the card throttles down to 0.8 - 0.825 anyway. seems like Z3us_PL was talking about stock clocks?
     
  27. Z3us_PL

    Z3us_PL Notebook Consultant

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    Let me know when you have great results with the new RTX2070 or 2080. I can not wait to see that :)
     
  28. Falkentyne

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    Did anyone try the new temperature limits thing and see if that does anything about the -13 mhz per 6C starting at 38C throttling "pascal problem"?
     
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  29. Robbo99999

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    On my desktop card I can change the temp limit from 83 degC up to 92 degC using MSI Afterburner, but this has no effect on my card in terms of being able to hold a higher Mhz at any given operating temperature that I experience. My card stabalises at about 68/69 degC on a firestrike loop at 2050Mhz, and and this is not affected in any way by setting 83 or 92 degC as the throttling temperature. (I'm not sure if that what what you were asking, albeit I know you're talking about mobile cards).
     
  30. yrekabakery

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    He’s talking about the Pascal temperature compensation effect, whereby the core clock and voltage drops every few degrees as the GPU heats up, starting from a very low temperature. If you open up the GPU-Z sensors tab and run the render test on a cold boot, you can see this happening in real-time.
     
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    thats strange... before the TDP unlock only +350 mem was stable. now i can run min. +600 stable.
     
  32. jaime360

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    I have the same question, so annoying seeing it dowclock....
     
  33. Falkentyne

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    All Samsung RAM cards should do 500 mhz on the memory without problems.
    Some of the newer cards (this started with the 1060 batches on some Clevos later on, then it appeared on certain 1070's) came with 9 gbps memory instead of 8 gbps memory, and they could do +1000 mhz on the RAM.
     
  34. kolias

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    mine 1070 stock vbios and stock and 4.0GHZ cpu.
    upload_2019-1-30_0-24-21.png
     
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    Yep, I know, and my response was in relation to that.
     
  36. Wurztha

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    Would it be possible to add the ability to change memory timings in your tool please? I'm looking to lower them so the clocks can be pushed higher as I'm maxing at +600 with my GTX 1070 Notebook and Samsung RAM :(
     
  37. homer314

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    I guys, i would like to test some tdp tweak on my p775tm1 with a gtx 1070. Is it still no possibile to flash via an updated nvflash version? Which is the best value/money programmer eventually?
    Thanks
     
  38. artpra

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    Some tidbits of typical conversation with Danishblunt which I find inappropriate and VERY offensive. I had some time outside a forum and after a few weeks without its reading they are really standing out among all other posts.
    @Danishblunt as a regular forum user I don`t want to see that much of aggression and hate pieces towards other users here. So I will be reporting them to mods, that much I can do. Have a nice day!
     
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    I was off the forums for an extended period of time and I had the same reaction to his comments after coming back.
     
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    It's a shame as he does help out users sometimes.
     
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    Danishblunt has already been banned from the forums because of his comments. Unfortunately after several warnings he continued to insult members, which is a shame because he occasionally had informative posts.
     
  42. Robbo99999

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    Yeah, it's a shame because I think he did have some knowledge as well as some passion for it (given his post number too), but as you say you can't keep insulting people after you've been warned for it a number of times, you gotta change at that point or else deal with the consequences, otherwise it would just make a mockery of what's trying to be achieved with the community here.
     
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    Hehe good one, especially those in which he presented the results that his equipment achieves with not entirely clear test conditions.
     
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    Oh no, my favorite Clevo hater was banned?!
    Yes he hated, but he was still forum family...maybe just a time-out?
     
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    He was given multiple time-outs and asked to play nicely. It didn't seem to click for him. Sadly it was time to correct it for good.
     
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    You could tell when he had a time out and was better for a bit and then would get worse again. I hope he figures out whatever was making him that way.
     
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    I'm not sorry to see the back of him... He'd get on a high horse for the smallest things. Perhaps the only thing he and I agreed on was that the Clevo DTR notebooks were not as great as made out to be here. He was otherwise an extraordinarily toxic person. People like @Mr. Fox go on tirades, but they're usually directed against big corporate; Danishblunt just openly insulted fellow forum members (usually for little reason).

    Anyone remember MikeKnight4Christ?
     
  48. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Yeah, that's the thing. I haven't seen anyone as hateful toward other people in the community as the person we are referring to. There was another one almost that bad a while back, but no point in mentioning who they are. I would never dream of acting the way he frequently did toward another person. Extremely belligerent and disrespectful, and generally without any type of provocation or exchange of dialogue leading up to it. I do not think he had the capacity to show kindness and respect to anyone that had an opinion that did not match his, and that is a real shame. He seemed to be pretty sharp, just not a very nice person.

    Companies deserve ridicule for making bad decisions. For example, I know some really awesome people at Dell/Alienware and have a good relationship with those people. Salt of the earth, in fact. But, I have no problem telling them when a product they have for sale is pile of feces. They don't ask me to evaluate their products under development any more because of that, LOL. They didn't connect the dots. When they had awesome stuff, I told them so and praised them for the awesomeness. But, I'm not going to lie about garbage just to make them feel good. They'd have to find someone else to sugar-coat the feedback and let bad things slide as though they never existed, and they did.
     
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  49. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    A little bit of honesty goes a great way to making things better. Companies need to be told that their products are trash (but only if they are truly trash—no point stirring the pot for no reason) by reviewers; they need to be told that they've got to improve by consumers, who vote with their wallets. The reason Apple has been making its notebooks continuously thinner, is because its user base has no problem with that fact.

    Anyway, back on topic; I plan to execute this mod on my Quadro P3200 later in May, when my semester ends and I get some semblance of free time. As of now I have 1728 cores, locked at 1.5 GHz maximum, with a 67 W hard power lock, a 7 GHz hard memory lock, and a ~0.7 V voltage lock. This vBIOS needs some serious tweaking. 1728 cores at proper GTX 1060 speeds could net me performance rivalling a GTX 1070MQ. I wish the Dell community had someone like Prema.
     
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    ... or Mr.Fox, ssj92 etc?... They used to, til they burned them real good...
     
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