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    Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker Update and Feedback Thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Coolane, Jun 20, 2017.

  1. Casowen

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    How exactly did you pull this off? I am just curious if I can do something similar with a 1070.
     
  2. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    By using coolane's tool, then using a USB SkyPro SPI programmer , 1.8v adaptor and a 8 pin SOIC test clip.

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  3. TheQuentincc

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    @Khenglish did find laser cut on kepler core but not on maxwell core
    You can also use a CH341A with "1.8v adapter" programmer, it work fine too while being cheaper :)
     
  4. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    I have one of them too however I have had better luck with me SkyPro then the CH341A to be honest.

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    RTX cards at the moment can’t be hardware flashed and work. You will have to use another manufactures vbios for now until the issue with hardware flashed RTX vbios are fixed.


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  7. 1990BW

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    Thx for the fast reply, so I can try the Asus bios mentioned in the other thread and flash it with Nvflash?
     
  8. hans12321

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    I wouldn't do cross flashing different vbioses on notebooks. The risk of frying your unit is too high in my opinion.

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  9. AnotherNotRandomUser

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    Hi guys, i have an MSI GS65 with a 1060, the tdp is 60W so i was trying to find a bios with a little higher TDP (70-80w), i found the razer but after i flash it the pc freezes after a while and doesnt detect the card well, so i went back to stock.

    This is what GPU-Z shows after flashing razer or xiaomi vbios
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    I've found a lot of mobile bios but their size is 256kb and my stock bios is 166kb, if i flash one with bigger size would it be a problem? Thanks in advance.
     
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  10. amihail91

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    What is your stock Device ID? I can't get my 1070 Max Q to read any other BIOS file either, I tried 50+ from techpowerup.
     
  11. AnotherNotRandomUser

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  12. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    If you want to increase the TDP your best and only way is to revert back to a stock Vbios, get your self a trust worthy USB SPI programmer with an 1.8v adaptor and a SOIC test clip, then dump the VBIOS 3 times and checksum check that all 3 match. Then using the tool from here mod the vbios and flash back.

    Flashing a Vbios from another OEM is not really advised as you can have issues like you've already had or worse a bricked device.

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    I flashed this one and it worked https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/214132/214132 . I actually have the MSI P65 8RE which is pretty much the same as the GS65. That bios says its the GS65 one but the TDP is 78W, the original one i thought it was 60W, i'm not sure now. Anyway, its working great. Thanks for your responses!
     
  14. AnotherNotRandomUser

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    Here is what i tested. I have a MSI P65 8RE with a 1060. Its almost the same to a GS65. All the test are using basic fan profile at fast speed.

    My stock bios has a TDP of 60W, i think the GS65 has a 78W TDP at stock. My temps were max 70 degrees.

    I flashed this one: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/214132/214132 . Which is supposed to be the stock GS65 and it works, the tdp is now 78W, temperatures are 75 degrees max.

    Then i found this one: https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/208746/208746 . This one allows me to pull 88W, temperatures are now 80 degress max.

    I don't know if to stay with the 78W for safety or the 88W, i don't know if this can be affecting VRM's, i don't know if the system shutdown in case of VRM overheating, if someone know better than me about this it would be nice an explanation.

    Here are the scores 60W vs 88W.

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  15. amihail91

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    I tried the 1060 razer, it was 166kb.

    Try looking one using this google search: https://www.google.com/search?biw=1920&bih=1007&sxsrf=ACYBGNTPOaMIshItwiQ5QVcqUUvkn31h1w:1569285871095&ei=72aJXf7CBeKy5OUPyp6M6Ao&q=msi+1070+mobile+bios++site:techpowerup.com&oq=msi+1070+mobile+bios++site:techpowerup.com&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1957.2222..2513...0.0..0.59.107.2......0....1..gws-wiz.0Lax01EtKsA&ved=0ahUKEwi-9pa3nejkAhViGbkGHUoPA60Q4dUDCAs&uact=5

    I'll leave you a link with all the MSI gtx 1070 mobile bios, for me the only ones that worked were from others msi laptops. https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios...&version=&interface=&memType=&memSize=&since=

    Download every bios you find and check the TDP with this the Pascal TDP tweaker.
     
  17. amihail91

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    I swear I've tried 50 BIOS from that site - it's not possible to change this Razer Blade without a hardware flasher I think.
     
  18. Krzyslaw

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    Did you flash via nvflash or spi programer?
    If via nvflash then that vbios with 88W might be the one I was looking for my gtx1060 in my MSI laptop that has 78W Vbios.
     
  19. AnotherNotRandomUser

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    I flashed via nvflash, you can try that bios i linked for 88W. Use -6 parameter in nvflash. Of course, do it at your own risk.

    This are my results compared to 60W:

    88W Increase: 15.31%
    78W Increase: 11.71%

    So you should be getting a 4% improvement approximately, i tested with heaven benchmark, time spy and superposition benchmark.
     
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  20. Krzyslaw

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    Nice, thank you. I think that even 6% improvement is in this 10W range.

    One thing I noticed is that my old vbios dump is 160kb while 88W is 166kb but I need to make a backup dump once again for sure. Rest things are maching.
    If I fail I will buy programer so no risk to try I think.
    Which version of nvflash did you use?
     
  21. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    Ok
    I was able to flash 88W TDP vbios for my GTX 1060. My stock bios was 160kb but this 88W was 166kb but it was flashed without a problem.
    Jump from ~13400 in FireStrike to ~14200.
    For now my memory are ocing much better from 9662 to 9824 and cores from +220 to +250 and for now it is stable. Temp increase ~3C on default fan curves. Need more time for finding max mem oc now and core voltage curve fine tuning.
     
  22. JCordero31

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    Anybody got a 1080 MXM modded bios for Clevo P775TM1-G? if so could you pm me or point me in the right directions i appreciate it
     
  23. Krzyslaw

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    Are there any official vbios for gtx 1060 with tdp higher than 88W?
     
  24. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    Nope. You'll need to use a USB SPI Programmer with a 1.8v adaptor. If it's an MSI GTX 1060 using the 1C60 and is 6GB I might be able to help you with an decent vbios which I am using and used to gain the scores in my signature.

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  25. Krzyslaw

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    Nope I have bga 10de 1c20 in my ge72vr with flashed msi 88W official vbios. By the way I am hitting around 14 050 with this bios with mem at 9662 and +230 core with my own fully stable voltage curve. And 14200 with 9800 mem and +240-250 with another curve but not stable in games, so I think over 14K points seams quite good with fully stable curve and oc on 88w vbios. By the way your physics score seems very low as I am hitting arround 11370 with my cpu with 2.98% bclk and for now I am the only one at hwbot which scores over 800 points with 7700HQ( on hwbot i have 801, after some tweaks i get 804 but didnt upload yet). And your 6700hq shouldnt be so low below 10k. And why you didn't oced your mem. By the way look at my signature
     
  26. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    I did overclock my vram on my 3dmark runs, as for the low CPU score I didn't luck out with the lottery on that and also have it locked and undervolted (might be too much on undervolt)

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  27. Krzyslaw

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    I was talking about 32GB of your RAM. You can OC it, even with default msi bios. 7700HQ and 6700hq are locked but you can oc them by moding me fw. it will no more than 2.98% but it is always additional benefit
     
  28. hacktrix2006

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    Will DM to keep this on topic.

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  29. AnotherNotRandomUser

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    I don't know if its safe to go higher than that. I don't know how VRMS could be affected by this. I searched a lot and the higher one was 88W, you would need a programmer to flash a custom bios.
     
  30. kela777slk

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    Hi. In version Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker v1.2.0.0 (06/30/2019) added support quadro p3000 mobile.
    Has anyone tried flashing an unlocked BIOS and testing a video card? overclocking possible? Thanks
     
  31. kakahoho

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    My laptop (i7-7700HQ/GTX 1070) come with 230w power adapter will enough for this software's preset?
    Edit: I got 330w power adapter and flashed modded vbios. Now power limit gone when playing games. Thanks!
     
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    Hi.
    Just program Vbios file with edited Pascal TDP Tweaker (edit only power limit to 110/100w from 75w) - no success. Notebook loading well, but modded drivers not installing, device manager reporting - error code 43, windows has stopped this device, because it has reported problems. reinstall driver/modding - no luck. program back saved dump bin file - just everything Ok.
    Program twice. Also for fun, program vbios from P3200 MXM - black screen.
    Conclusion- for Dell Branded 10DE 1BB8 Nvidia P3000 MXM 3.0 tdp edit not working in this vercion program. not unlocking TDP so yet.

    and one problem (bug) see with install P3000 in P770DM - GPU-Z (and other info program) report - bus width - 96 bit (but in factory specification - 192 bit). This is with modded driver P3000. if i modded GTX1060 driver for my identification GPU (p3000), gpu-z report - 192 bit as must be. everythitg working as well with P3000 modded driver (3dmark 11 score idenical - 3000 points with Full HD resolution).
     
  33. kolias

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    Hello everyone I have a problem with the utilization on my 1080.
    It’s very low ,I’m getting around 65-76%
    My temps are great as you can see...
    Do I have to flash with a better vbios??
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    I think the CPU is bottlenecking, maybe 4 cores are not enough for BFV, this game is very CPU demanding.

    Check if it's happening in another games.
     
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    Maybe you’re right,in resident evil 2remake I have 93-99% util
     
  36. yrekabakery

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    That’s clearly a CPU bottleneck. The new Operation Underground map is extremely CPU/mem BW intensive, so you’re doing quite well all things considered lol.
     
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    That's Battlefield V, that uses a lot of CPU power, and I can see from your two screenshots that your CPU usage in the low to high 90's, so I think you're CPU limited in your game at the settings you're using - so I think it's nothing to do with your GPU.
     
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    Well I think I will sell it and go buy a new one with better cpu.
    8 series cpu is it worth buying now or find something better than that??
     
  39. yrekabakery

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    Yeah, it’s unfortunate your CPU is BGA as people with LGA laptops as old as 6th gen / Z170 are able to upgrade up to the 9th gen with a tape and BIOS mod. That said, your performance looks to only be about 15% behind my 6C/6T i5-8600K at 4.7GHz with 3200MHz CL16 RAM, which is not too shabby at all. Are you able to run your RAM at 3200MHz in your system? Frostbite is an engine which absolutely loves memory bandwidth, possibly even moreso than additional cores/threads past 6/8 physical cores, so RAM tuning is another avenue to explore for further performance improvement when your CPU is already capped out.
     
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    No my mem is stock at 2400mhz :(
    I bought 3200mhz just in case if I oc them close to that clocks but I must flash my bios with Svet bios to unlock it but I don’t think I can go further than 2400mhz.... :(
    And then I’m thinking is it worth to buy a new laptop for only a few games that needs more cpu power??
    Because the only game that needs it is BF series right??
    What about the new Call of duty?

    Also when I got the new mem I put them on slot 3 and 4
    Is it ok?
    Is it better to put them in 1 and 2 slot?
     
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    AFAIK you should at least be able to run 2666MHz if you don't fill all four RAM slots on the GT73. In that case, I'd go for lowest stable timings at 2666MHz, which should still net you some improvement over 2400MHz without optimized timings.

    A lot of recent AAA games will benefit from 6 or more cores, but BFV is kind of an outlier in terms of how CPU-heavy it is, especially on Operation Underground. I imagine they will do an optimization pass or several on the map at some point, as it feels like they rushed it out for Battlefest, so I expect performance on the map to improve in the future.

    The Modern Warfare beta was much less CPU-intensive than BFV, even in 64 player Ground War mode.
     
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    I have a 2070Max-Q and I'm trying to raise the Target mw to match the limit mw. After I save the changes and try to flash with nvflash64 I get ERROR: Invalid firmware image detected. Can anyone help?
     
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    Thanks for responding but that what I did and got that error. Nvflash64 -6 Name.rom


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  45. yrekabakery

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    Sorry I missed this message from earlier. Since your system limits RAM speed to 2666/2400 depending on the number of slots filled, it shouldn’t make a difference which slots you use as long as you occupy the correct slots for dual channel operation. With higher speed RAM or overclocking, some slots may work better than others depending on motherboard traces.
     
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    Do you think mate the Area 51 Alienware worth the money? As a system(cooling -upgrades?)
    I was thinking the one with 2080 and i7 8700k
     
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    No you cannot flash anything above 900 series with a modified vbios with this editor. You have to use a hardware flasher. Also when using a hardware flasher it is impossible to flash anything higher than 10 series or it will not install drivers, we have all tried and it doesn’t work.


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    Absolutely not. Aside from the latest BIOS versions reducing temp/power limit on the 2080 to prevent them from burning up due to lack of active GPU VRM cooling, it’s also restricted to 2400MHz RAM speed, which is not good at all for a game that loves memory bandwidth as much as Battlefield. From the videos I’ve seen, the Area-51m with 9900K and 2080 gets about the same performance in BFV as I do with 3200MHz RAM.
     
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    Damn okay thanks for the info. Really upset the vbios I have with a higher TDP is not working



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  50. Hackintoshihope

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    Now we may get an update fixing the hardware flashing issue in the future but not right now :(.


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