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    Mobile Pascal TDP Tweaker Update and Feedback Thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Coolane, Jun 20, 2017.

  1. HandsomeGhost

    HandsomeGhost Notebook Guru

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    Okay gotcha just gotta give it some time.


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  2. kolias

    kolias Notebook Evangelist

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    Ohhhh so it’s better to stay way from that option....
    The msi Titan series are very good laptops with the best cooling in my opinion!!
    If I can find like the GT75 VR with a six core and 2080 that will be the best
     
  3. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    yrekabakery Notebook Virtuoso

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    Clevo DTR is probably best suited for running high speed memory.
     
  5. Captainflo22

    Captainflo22 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello, is there a link to a procedure to flash the vbios of a Clevo laptop GTX 1080?
    I tried using the nvflash_tool coming from a package in an other thread but it didn't flash it.
    I think read something about a hardware flasher but have not enough information
    Thanks for help :)
     
  6. Lumlx

    Lumlx Notebook Consultant

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    Original signed vbios -> nvflash should work

    Modded vbios -> you need hardware flasher
     
  7. Captainflo22

    Captainflo22 Notebook Enthusiast

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    What happen if I extract my vbios, tune it with tdp then send it back to my card through nvflash?
     
  8. seanwee

    seanwee Father of laptop shunt modding

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    Yeah thats modding so you can't use nvflash
     
  9. Reciever

    Reciever D! For Dragon!

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    If you extracted via programmer you might as well flash it back anyways...
     
  10. HoangThi

    HoangThi Notebook Enthusiast

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    Anyone know how to mod vbios to increase limit power by other methods. And then this modified bios can be used by nvflash?
     
  11. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    HI guys

    Could you tell me if this stuff will be good to start flashing gtx1060 bga, because I want to move tdp higher than 88W
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/330...&terminal_id=f07b20dac83b4a28bd766ef685fa1cac

    Is there everything I need to flash?

    Also can anyone link me latest tested drivers and software for ch341a? I downloaded 1.18 from 30 min youtube video. Will this be ok?

    And second thing could someone link me a guide how to connect everything on ch341a programer.

    Thanks
     
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  12. HoangThi

    HoangThi Notebook Enthusiast

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    No need.
    You only need-finding other vbios of 1060 on techpowerup and then using NVIDIA NVFlash with Board Id Mismatch Disabled v5.541.0 to flash it.
    I have a clevo gtx 2080 with 150W, and now I am using 190W vbios of alien 51M by this method.
    No one here knows or knows but does not share with others.
    Nice.
     
  13. hans12321

    hans12321 Notebook Consultant

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    Don't blame others here if you haven't read the thread. Many guys shared their experiences with crossflasing vbioses from other vendors.

    Ps: there is the risk of flashing the wrong vbios for your board. This can results in a total brick of your mobo even with the risk of a hardware damage. Editing the original vbios of your board with using @Coolane 's tool within the specs is much safer in my opinion.

    Gesendet von meinem SM-G973F mit Tapatalk
     
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  14. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    I already flashed official 88W vbios for gtx 1060 via nvflash but I am targeting in 90 W with possibility to use power limit slider for up to 120W
    And there is no other more powerfull vbios for bga 1060 other than 88w. clevo has 100w vbios for mxm version I think but it will brick my lap. So now I need to now if the stuff I posted in my previous link will do the job

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/330...&terminal_id=f07b20dac83b4a28bd766ef685fa1cac
     
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  15. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    Not to be funny here but if your GPU is BGA'd to the mainboard then it's really not worth the risk of bricking the whole laptop because the GPU failed.

    When messing with MXM cards it's not too bad we also use the original VBIOS too, yes some of use have cross flashed vbioses and in some cases it works but not always the GCube cards was a prime example.

    Beside you don't get any performance gains in terms of FPS when you got past 88w unless you out in alot and I mean alot of tdp power, on BGA based systems the VRM's are trash and will thermal run away before a hooker could change their underwear.

    Sent from my SNE-LX1 using Tapatalk
     
  16. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    Maybe yes maybe not :) 120W can be to much but for sure they will handle around 100 and if I will f*** it I will by new one ;) There were here guys who did the magic with bga so I can also push it a bit more.
    I just need to know if the stuff is good and have everything I need
    BTW
    I made some really good mod to all of the cooling so 10-15W more should not be a problem.
    I allready pushed everything in my lap to max for what is possible to mod. I just need a bit more from gpu
     
  17. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    If you still have the backup of your original vbios you should be safe.

    The kit you linked will work however i personally use a SkyPro with a 1.8v adaptor and a SOIC8 test clip without issues. Goodluck.
     
  18. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    Great, thanks.

    Yes I have a backup of vbios.

    When programer will arive and i will have free time to flash maybe I will ask about something but it should be ok.
    At first I will be also doing backup with programer 2 or 3 times to chcek and compare if everything is the same with my dump from nvflash.

    Pink cable ashould be connected to pin 1?

    btw sorry for double posting.
     
  19. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    Yes Red/Pink should go to pin one, look for the little inverted pimple that denotes pin 1.

    Sent from my SNE-LX1 using Tapatalk
     
  20. tps3443

    tps3443 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Man I wish my laptop would arrive already! I wanna burn up my gtx1080 too!! I’m so jealous you guys.
     
  21. Sup3rKillaX

    Sup3rKillaX Notebook Evangelist

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    Careful

    Sent from my GM1917 using Tapatalk
     
  22. tps3443

    tps3443 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I had all the flashing equipment previously with my last BGA Laptop. But I have no idea where all my stuff is at. I sold my BGA laptop off over a year ago due to melting it to death.

    And my P750TM1 will be here today. 8086K and GTX1080.

    so a Skypro, 1.8v adapter, and a soic8 clip is all I need?

    I dump my original bios Rom on my desktop for backup, edit my bios for higher TDP with pascal bios editor? Then I hook up the bios chip on my MXM gtx1080 and flash the modified bios with the sky pro software?
     
  23. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    You need this if you don't want to rip your hair out, instead of a chinese SOIC8 clip.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HHH65T4/
    https://www.amazon.com/Elegoo-EL-CP-004-Multicolored-Breadboard-arduino/dp/B01EV70C78/

    And what happened to your alienware or whatever you had before?
     
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  24. Reciever

    Reciever D! For Dragon!

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    Just picked those up thanks for the link, Will see if it will work with what I have.

    I need to get moving on tuning my Ranger so I can sell my AW13 R3 that I hardly ever use.
     
  25. tps3443

    tps3443 Notebook Virtuoso

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  26. matyee

    matyee Notebook Deity

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    Hi,
    I tried to use this tweaker to TDP unlock the vbios of my clevo's 1080. I have received black screen. Could anyone help me what I have missed? This checksum thing is still blurry to me :)
     
  27. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Does this work with Turing cards yet? Any progress whatsoever?
     
  28. TheQuentincc

    TheQuentincc Notebook Evangelist

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    You want to unlock the TDP of your RTX3000?
     
  29. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Indeed. Stuck at 80W; I'd like to see if I can push it past 100.
     
  30. TheQuentincc

    TheQuentincc Notebook Evangelist

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    Do you know if it's the same card with the same vbios on the 7740?
     
  31. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Apparently so. The Quadro RTX 4000 and 5000 (newly released) have nerfed VBIOSes on the 7540.
     
  32. kolias

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    Hey guys, first of all I don’t have any idea what to change but I will give a try ... :p :p
    Anyway I upload my vbios(MSI-1080) in the tweaker
    What settings do I have to change for more safe oc
    Thank you in advance 4A7B28AC-ED41-4AC3-B4C5-516FB57C9638.jpeg
     
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  33. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    Did you vbios have 55AA? If it didn't then you'll need to remove the IFR header which will mean that your GPU will report that its not a clevo GPU.
     
  34. TheQuentincc

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    The tool might work on your RTX3000, it seems like there is two locations on the vbios that contain the same string about TDP unlock/lock and TDP limit and the tool is only editing the first one, for exemple on my P4000 vbios there is only one string about TDP unlock/lock and TDP limit.
    I don't know if turing card need these two string matching, or if only the first string is effectively usefull.


    @hacktrix2006 If I remember correctly all Pascal vbios have 55AA at some point, if it's not right at the begining it's like soon after
     
  35. matyee

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    Thank you for your kind answer.
    How can I check if I have 55AA vbios?
    If I dont, how I can remove the IFR? Is there any tutorial/readme for this?
    thanks a lot in advance!
     
  36. DADDYPOWER

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    Hi, the program's automatic preset applies 180W to me on a mobile rtx 2070 (not max-q), would it be good or would it do any damage?
     
  37. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    Load the stock/backup vbios file in the tool then look under the data to the side there is a grey box, it will state a value in there. If its not 55AA then that normally is the case of the black screen. I still have my hexediting tools so you could pm me a link to your modded vbios file and i can remove the IFR if you wish, but just remember i shell not be held liable for any issues.
     
  38. seanwee

    seanwee Father of laptop shunt modding

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    Wait so does the tdp tweaker work for Turing at the moment?
     
  39. matyee

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    Thank you, I will check and get back to you! Thx for your help in advance!
     
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    Hows it going with your GTX1080 power mod?
     
  41. matyee

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    I have not managed to do yet, I do not have programmer.
     
  42. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    HI

    I have just flashed custom bios for my bga GTX1060 in my MSI GE72VR :D Finaly had time to do this.

    I used CH341a programator + 1.8V adapter + soic8 standard clip and it worked perfect without a problem.

    I have repaded and reaplied LM and everything is fantastic :D BTW I have made best job ever here. I am not even hiting even 65 C on cpu and gpu :D

    This is my score:
    upload_2019-12-8_23-33-19.png

    Cpu was not my best this time as it varies from run to run as I can hit 11300-11400 on my 7700HQ but look at my GPU. I thing this is a very good score for a mobile gtx 1060.
    TDP 105W core +230 and mem +850

    GPU score is varies 14700-14820 depend on temp

    Testing for 3 hours in games and for now rock solid.

    VBIOS CONFIG:
    upload_2019-12-8_23-38-8.png upload_2019-12-8_23-38-24.png

    What do you thing?
     
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  43. hacktrix2006

    hacktrix2006 Hold My Vodka, I going to kill my GPU

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    @Krzyslaw Nice, it would seem you have beat my score outright :(, even if you take the CPU score away your GPU score is higher then what i have been able to get on my GTX 1060, Did you change the values on the advance tab as that was what i didn't touch. Glad however that your GTX 1060 is performing nicely though.
     
  44. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, a bit up.

    I want to break 15k ;) n FS so I would flash it one more time with a bit higher tdp as all my temps are good, after very long testing session I hitted 71C max with fans capped at 70% so I have some room for more

    As for Extreme limits I have just rised them by a tiny bit. Details later after second flash

    I will made another vbios, made some tests and I will post resaults later.

    Btw with some more tuning 14921 in FS so 15K can be achivable with higher tdp

    Finger crossed for breaking 15K and stable OC.

    If I achived that I can wait for rtx3000 msi laptop xD

    If someone needs guide of how to use ch341a and software call me.
     
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  45. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    So guys 15K FS graphics score on GTX 1060

    upload_2019-12-9_12-53-8.png

    TDP 115W

    upload_2019-12-9_13-6-49.png upload_2019-12-9_13-6-59.png

    Advanced power limits rised from:
    9700 --> 10500
    76700 --> 81500

    So just a little up.

    I still need to tweak curve a bit but 15K is a solid score :D
     
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  46. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    Ok guys I did the last polish on my card and now I will stop at this point with further mod and OC.

    This are my results after 2 days of testing and doing custom curve and memory oc (+820) and I was trying to kill my laptop or if some of you want jokebook/turdbook, but with no luck :D
    FS 1.PNG
    FS 2.PNG
    FS 3.PNG

    EVERYTHING ROCK SOLID AND STABLE IN FS, SKYDIVER, VALLEY AND IN GAMES.

    BTW NOW CARD IS NOT GOING BELOW 2GHz on core during FS test.

    This is my custom VBIOS ( didn't change the rom name from previous vbios, sorry :) but it is 120W TDP )
    VBIOS 1.PNG
    VBIOS 2.PNG

    And if someone wants this is my Throttlestop tab after 4 hours of torturing ;)
    tt.PNG

    and my CPU-Z tabs

    cpu-z 1.PNG
    cpu-z 2.PNG

    I can say I hit the wall with this laptop, and I can just wait for rtx3080 and i9 whatever "next gen skylake refresh" laptop ;D
     
  47. Wildroar

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    Nice hit. Congratulations to you! Please write the guide in details.
     
  48. Robbo99999

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    About 2050Mhz is about the maximum you can expect from an air cooled overclocked desktop card during extended runs, so it seems like you've unlocked the TDP enough that the TDP is no longer a major limitation - so essentially you're pretty much at the maximum of what your silicon can support & offer. So, good job!
     
  49. kolias

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    Good job man
    Also how you’re oc the mem buddy??
    I have the gt73vr and I bought 16gb -3200mhz mem but I’m running them on 2400mhz.
    Did you unlock the bios by Svet?
     
  50. Krzyslaw

    Krzyslaw Notebook Consultant

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    I think the same.
    During FS card runs from 2063 to 2000 MHz.
    After long gaming session when I ran FS I saw just one single drop to 1987MHz so now fps varies only due to driver changes from branch to branch.
    For example when I hit 15023 I was on insider 445 driver after tweaking the curve I hitted ~15050.
    15155 score was on old but by far fastest driver for Pascal 411.70.

    Mem was default at 2666MHz so yes I have oced them by setting custom profile and by bclk

    I have albo gained 100MHz on all cpu cores thanks to the bclk. Little but still added bonus.

    I could enter mem oc by Key combo but I fu***d me fw and bclk settings and I needed Svet for help to recover that. He also unlocked for me bios so I dont need key combo but later I modded bios further and flashed again.

    I can say I oced everything in this laptop that was possible to OC to its limits

    If I achive some better score look at my signature.
     
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