I've stumbled upon these models as well, but are there any internal pictures? Couldn't find any of the ERX480 either.
I'm not doubting binning, but we have clear evidence that there are good chips that would go into E9550 and quite likely here as well, hence the 180W brick. What about 1070? Any indications about binning? As far as I can tell the whole move to the current situation was to avoid it, or rather, avoid the sweating over consumer parts and put everything good onto Quadro boards. With that said, would love to see the internals of both ERX480 and EN1070.
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according to this review, both the en1060 and en1070 are based on standard form factor mxm modules: https://www.computerbase.de/2016-10/zotac-zbox-magnus-en1060-test/
the internal pics dont show the gpu with rhe heatsink off, but the text gives further details...
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Working is a story all by itself as always, but now we are adding - fitting. It would fit, would it work, well...
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And most probably they have no SLI connector as well. Bummer for me....
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Naaaah, it's your hammer that's too small, just get a bigger one and swing it like a Viking
I'm REALLY curious to see it in action. After all, since the XDMA introduction, there was no laptop to feature AMD GPU, let alone two in CF.
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That was said about m295x and noone became a guinea pig...xdma likely works there too if at all.
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I can't remember that they have been available. Never seen them on the free market.
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It was/is faster than that, but one can't get an MXM to try out.
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The M295X mxm card is certainly available for just over $400. Definitely faster than M290x but also hotter!
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Then again drivers have much improved since it's release for GCN so it might well perform quite well in a machine that was designed to cool at 980M.
I ran 6970M, 6990M, 7970M, 680M and 980M in M15x and can say with certainty that the 980M was the hottest. So hot that the M15x could not cool it even with liquid metal TIM. 6990M is second hottest being a shade over 100W and with an undervolt was just stable in M15x. The others were solid 100W tdp cards and rock stable.
If the M15x had a higher thermal capacity heatsink (originally designed for 75W cards) I might give the card a shot just to clear all doubt about performance. Right now we only know how the card performd in a gimped BGA package not in MXM so it isn't exactly fair to judge the card.
Anyway at 440 a pop it isn't cheap. Not prohibitively expensive but not cheap either. To test XDMA...900 dollars. hmmm!Last edited: Nov 8, 2016TomJGX likes this. -
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Zentrica is minimum order 10 however WDL you can buy single cards: http://www.wdlsystems.com/GPU/MXM/TUL-R9-M295X-MXM-Graphics-Card.html
These are the only 2 suppliers I can find personally. Specs:
Model Name
E295MF
Graphics Processing Unit
GPU
AMD Radeon R9 M295X
Process Technology
28nm
GPU TDP
125W (M290X: 100W)
Graphics Engine Operating Frequency (max)
800Mhz (M290X: 850mhz)
MXM type
MXM 3.0,Type B
CPU Interface
PCI Express® 3.0 (x16)
Shader Processing Units
2,048 shaders (M290X: 1280 shaders)
Floating Point Performance
ROP/TMUs: 32/128 (M290X: 32/80)
Floating Point Performance
3,277 GFLOPs peak single-precision (M290X: 2,176 GFLOPs)
DirectX® capability
DirectX® 12
Shader Model
Shader Model 5.0
OpenGL
OpenGL 4.3
OpenCL
OpenCL 1.2
Unified Video Decoder (UVD)
UVD 5.0 for H.264, VC-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 part 2 decode
Memory
Operating Frequency (max)
1,375 MHZ / 5.5 Gbps (M290X: 1,200 MHZ / 4.8 Gbps)
Configuration, type
256-bit wide, 4 GB, GDDR5
Go one someone pull the trigger it would be a fun experimentin a decently designed laptop with cooling adequate for a 980M perhaps even a bump on the core would be possible and then things might get interesting!
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I think that with recent drivers performance should be on par with 980m.
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say what! M295X = 980M? hard data please!
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Not sure about that. Clock for clock however it is much more powerful
M295X = solid 970M with adequate cooling
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Just like 970M is obsolete. Doesn't mean I wont be getting one after getting dissappointed by e9550 by the end of year
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Dont know if this has been posted already but TPU Database is claiming the e9260 will be MXM 3.0a
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/2883/radeon-e9260-mxm
A slight glimmer of hope for my aging m4600
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Depends on if your laptop is lvds connection to the display this new cards aren't compatible sadly. There has been a lot of digging into this in the
the hopeful of keeping mxm 3.0 b alive thread.
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Damn.
Looks like I can't give amd my money or support this way.
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The rx480 mobile is basically a ghost card. I am hoping e9260 and e9550 will be more available.
E9260 as a lower tier card *may* have better chance supporting LVDS than its bigger brother. I remain hopeful. I guess we find out for sure by early next year.
Would love a e9260 personally. A 50w 970M contender. With a 20% OC it would be a fast and cool performer up to 1080p in games and thermally help out my 920xm that is effectively at the usual 3.6ghz across all cores that I run it 24/7 a space heater.
On another note e9550 is the process enhanced full blooded 95w RX 480. The e9260 performs at a much lower level. Probably somewhere at or just above a stock 970M but at 50w or less! Basicay you get m295x performance in a 50w package...
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Depends on which market those products are targeted at. A RX480 is probably too powerful for driving those industrial/advertising displays. If they are really made for VR kits the chance of using LVDS isn't high.
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The guy ordered AW 15 R3 with 1070 but got RX 470 instead... Poor fella, but before returning it he did some benchs:
3D Mark:
Firestrike score - 7544
Graphics - 8602
Physics - 9654
Combined - 3353
Time Spy Score - 2903
Graphics - 2777
CPU Score - 3915
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He got a BGA book... poor fella.
Lets show some support for AMD mate. Nobody else will challenge Nvidia
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Sometimes I think AW deliberately puts more nails in AMD's coffin with its pricing. Desktop RX 470 is 30% cheaper than 1060 which should translate to the same ratio in mobile space, but for some genius reason they decided to price it at the same level with 1060, though it is obviously slower. The same was for M295X/395X cards.
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Exactly. Also why 470, when there's 480?
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Strongly note first word there!
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Something that I'm saying for quite some time:
People only want AMD to compete, to buy nGREEDIA's next abortion anyway. Keep on going that way. The next gen nGREEDIAs would come with lube, but it wont be included in the price/package.King of Interns likes this. -
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If you watched the video, you'll see that things go "slightly" before that, when they not only had, but were competitive, not to say better AND cheaper. People still bought nGREEDIA, because any random person on the street would tell you that someone said, that his uncle heard two guys talking, that this is the right choice... Not to mention the drivers. Or AMD CPUs catching fire... The word of mouth is a VERY strong thing. So, your comment is completely irrelevant.
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The content of that video tells me Nvidia are better marketers, because if people aren't buying on the specs there's some other reason for it that Nvidia have created to get people to buy what is objectively a worse value proposition. They are also better strategists and know how to exploit their market position both in standard stuff like product pricing and in various underhanded ways too. Its just smart business to create a super top end niche and slap a crazy high price tag on it. Do you hate Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche too?...
You can hate them because they don't sell you a GPU as cheap as you'd like, but they got there by being better than AMD in a lot of ways over a long time.Carrot Top likes this. -
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And to answer your question - I don't hate them. I hated Ferrari at some point, since Chris Harris did a pretty good essay on "How Ferrari spins". Since he not only drives them, but does so around Fiorano and all over Modena, I guess all is fine with the world again. I kinda hate (most of) the recent Porches, but it's not because of the price. It's because this is what I was afraid of when VW bought them, a nightmare come true - forced-induction-dual-clutch-AWD everything. It might be a bit overly generalized, but then why 911R happened?
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http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-software-crimson-relive-driver-leak/
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Looks good but if the last relevant mobile hardware we have is the 8970M....it's not going to be of much benefit to us.
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just an fyi to crossfire 8970m users and m290x. You must disable ulps after installing drivers later than catalyst 16.7.2 and before rebooting after install or the system hangs while trying to shutdown or restart and you have to hard shutdown by holding the power button otherwise. This was quite the nightmare until I found a thread on amd forums of others complaining about the same problem. Something to do with windows trying to talk to the secondary gpu and it can't.
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Mobile Polaris Discussion
Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by moviemarketing, Jan 4, 2016.