My 5920g...WITH A HD 4650! (need help)

What results do you mean? 90°C or 86°C?

 

I need to know if my ASUS N81Vp is compatible with:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-Asus-F8V-M5...emQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item518f7f3bd1

Because my ATI 4650 1GB DDR3 is broken:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=447069

Thanks.

 

@heur
1. NO it's not compatible because of swapped design of your actual card!
2. WHY replacing an ddr3 card with ddr2?
3. just buy http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-Asus-F8V-M5...CC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item518f7f3bd1&afsrc=1
or any equivalent that has flipped design and works with your bios

but please stop hijacking other upgrade threads as asus has the flipped design which isn't widely used

 

Further improvement: I fixed again the thermal paste cause i thought it was too much and i put a coolermaster cooler pad under the laptop.
The idle temp is at 47-49 °C and the max temp after one hour+ of gaming is 76°C.
This is were i stop searching to improve my temps, the next step is to upgrade the gpu and my laptop will be at its max specs.

 

@ g47: How thick is your copper sheet?
And which vBios mod did you do?

Why did you write you're going to upgrade your gpu?
I mean you already have a HD4650.

Did you cover the upper memory with cooling pads or something like this?
And what's the max. temp you're memory gets?

Wich game did you played for 1 hour?
Because if I play "Lord of the Rings - Battle for Middleearth" the temp is also at about 76°C.

 

Am still waiting for the price to drop form 200 to 100 euros over here
Did anybody find me a copper thingy yet ^^? Perhaps I should buy copper wire and melt it into a perfect fitting form...I hope the matches didn't rise in price like computer hardware parts did.

 

The copper is 1mm thick.
There is a link some pages back when i started searching for the upgrade.
Sorry, slip of hand, i meant cpu.
I played MW2 with all graphic options at full.
I use the modded bios from classic77.

I do not understand what do you mean by saying upper memory.
Do you mean the chips that suround the proccessor of my gpu?
If yes, i used the oem pads but i covered them with arctic silver first.
Max temp. of my memory?
Do you mean ram?
I do not have a tool to measure that, please give me a link to downlad one and i will tell you.

 

omg I didn't know you could play cod mw2 at maximum settings with a 'low' ati hd4650... Is there any point at all in the getting the new ati5 or nvidia 300 series then? You did it with a 2 ghz cpu right??

 

I have a t7300 at 2Ghz.

 

Hm...this realy makes me anxious to find some copper! But, I'll be patient, lets see how AC2 will run with a 2ghz c2duo and that ati card, if it will work, I'll go to the lokal hardware store for some copper right away, the gpu price will have to drop though...

 

With upper memory i mean the memory on the upper side if you open you're laptop. (not the memory, which is on the same side as the gpu)
Did you cover them with something?
the max temp of the graphics memory.
You can use GPU-Z for this. (the entry, which is called "GPU Temp. #2", this is the memory temp.)

 

Those temps are not far off mine, considering the extra contact surface I would suggest that his mod is pretty much perfectly done.

 

So...does anybody know a site to buy the copper in europe/belgium ?

 

What are you're temps?
Because I'm a little bit afraid ... everybody has better temps than mine ... ^^
But maybe it's just the thermal paste and how much I used.

 

Was talking about g47 sorry.

After use I idle around: (using gpuz)

GPU: 43
temp #1: 41
temp #2: 43

playing some l4d2 got me to 64C max.

 

What's I4d2?
And what's the temp. of the graphics memory ("GPU Temp. #2" in GPU-Z) after gaming?

 

Same as the GPU temp.

l4d2 = left 4 dead 2.

 

And did you covered the upper memory? (other side as the gpu)
Because the Tmax of the memory is about 95°C.

 

My laptop has a mounting mechanism that cools both sets of memory chips.

 

here are my temp results
idle

and while playing to arma 2
(ati catalyst 9.12)

 

Why do you post a desktop HD4650 in a notebook thread?
Because in the drop down menu is standing ATI Radeon HD4650.

 

I would like to but it's only a laptop
I'm using modded desktop drivers

 

ah ok.

I renewd the thermal paste, but the temps are still the same: max gpu: 90°C; max memory: 86°C.
And I don't have an idea why.
I'm using Arctic Silver 5 and a 0,6mm thick copper sheet.
What do you use?

Does you're fan run at full speed, if you're at 76°C.
Mine doesn't even at 90°C, but I flashed the bios and edited the fan settings like in classic77's bios.
Maybe because the CPU only goes up to 59°C during Furmark.
What's you're CPU Temp.?

 

I'm using tuniq tx3 thermal paste
I added a copper sheet between the gpu and the heatsink too as I found out that there was a gap between them maybe that's why you get 90C
I had the same temp problem and my laptop was shutting down before I realize that was the problem
I have a small noisy desktop fan which is way better than a cooling pad
6C average compared to 4C max for the best cooling pad
I found out there are some 200 box watercooling kit
wondering if adding this to a laptop graphic card could help for some crazy overclocking

 

I'm already using a 0,6mm copper sheet.
But I think the fan is regulated by the CPU Temp., which is during Furmark never over 60°C.
And does you're fan run at full speed if you're reaching the 76°C GPU Temp?
And what's you're CPU Temp?

 

max cpu temp 65C (everest)
ok I set the cooling policy to active under processor power management
by this way the fan speed goes up before the cpu speed goes down
look at the icone in the taskbar
by setting min processor state to 100% my fan speed is 100% all the time
you could do that with riva turner too
you should decrease the 2D & 3D clock (low) under gpu tool by this way the gpu temp will decrease faster while idle

 

Please can you make some screen shots because I don't know how to manage this. And I'm a little bit confused at the moment. ^^

 

I set the minimum processor usage to 100%.
But the CPU Temp. is actually at 35°C under idle.
And the graphics card is at 46.5°C.
But the fan is still spinning at the lowest state.

Did you also had such high temperatures before you did that trick?

 

don't know
did that when i've changed my cpu to X9000
have you set to active under cooling policy too?

 

On battery: passive
Pluged in: active

Is it right?

Can you cange the fan duty with riva tuner?

 

plugged in :active ok
and yes you can change the fan duty with riva turner
I never did that myself as i don't like riva turner

another solution could be to link your cpu to your gpu with some copper
if the temp goes up for your gpu it will goes up for your cpu and then the fan speed will goes up too

 

And in idle you're fan is also spinning at 100%?
Which Bios version do you have?
Mine is 3811.

 

i have a 8920G so it's quite different
is it your active plan ?
my active plan is high performance
you must set the change for your active plan
(high performance or balanced)

what you could do is underclocked your gpu with gpu tool while playing game
set the game to the spec you need, play it a little to be sure the 4650 has enough power to play the game
if yes underclock the graphic card with gpu tool up to the clock you still can play the game easily
by this way you can play the game and get lower temp
for instance
I could play arma 2 to 550Mhz GPU clock but I could play it to 500Mhz too without changing game specs
so at 500Mhz I could get lower temp

 

GridRacer you dont have to be confused.
First of all, if you have done everything right, the only thing you can change and see the differences is the cooper sheet.
So, i would suggest you buy i thicker one, at 1mm and the screws should be tight also.
Finally, you should check how much arctic silver you put.
With i thinner copper sheet, i suppose that you used much more thermal paste, which is not helping.
The cost is very small for these changes.

To help you, here is the guy i got the cooper from.
http://computers.shop.ebay.co.uk/La...g=&_ssn=ixtreme-repairs&_trksid=p3911.c0.m282

The auctions that do not mention how thick it is is 1mm.
At least the one that came to me was.

Yous should get rid of the black plastic sticker around the cooper core of the heat sink in your paltop, so that it makes contact not only with the cooper of the heat sink but with the grey metal also, that raises the total contact area.

Make these changes, renew the thermal paste and we will see.

 

Thanks
I will see
How long did it take to get the copper sheet from London?

 

To Greece five days.

 

i'm noticing something
my max temp are :
core 75.5C; memory 77.5C
it seems that the memory is bringing up the temp

yours are :
core 90C; memory 86C
it seems that the core is bringing up the temp

so working on the core copper sheet as G47 is saying seems to be a good idea to me

 

@g47: what bios version do you have?
And did you flash in Win 7 after you installed your HD4650 or before?
Or did you flashed in Vista?

Because I have the 3811 and I read that the thermal table has been modified in the 3813.
So this can also cause the problem because the fan isn't even running at 100% when the gpu core is at 90°C (90°C = 100% fan in vBios).

 

The bios of the card is the same as classic's77.
I flashed after i installed the card.
If you have flashed the bios to classic's77 i dont see why there is change in your gpu's fan.

The bios of my system is 0.3508 and i can not update as i have 7 64bit.

 

So what I mean is that the fan doesn't run at full speed if the gpu is at 90°C.
But in the vBios I set the fan settings to 100% at 90°C.
Because the Fan is regulated by the CPU-Temp.
And in my case the CPU-Temp never goes higher than 60°C during Furmark.
What's your CPU-Temp?

 

At exactly the same temp (+- 0.5 °C) as my gpu.
So, what bios controls the fans?
Because if what you say is true, then classic's77 vbios is ''useless''.

 

I think that the CPU Sensor controls the fan.
An so if my CPU is only 60°C then the fan isn't spinning that high as it should.

I also read that the thermal table of the fan controller has been modified in the 3813 due to the bad G84 GPUs of nVidia.
So maybe then the controller is also regulated by the gpu temp.

Hope dies last. ^^

 

All I can say is my fan speed is GPU temp linked. Tried and tested...could be a BIOS thing.

 

What's your bios version?

 

i've just got a 4°C decrease (78°C to 74°C) in my max gpu temp and that with a higher overclock that's pretty amazing!
Just by linking the fan to the gpu.
How? by linking the heatsink from both cpu and gpu with some copper sheet (as I have to do something with my big copper sheet )
As I suspected the fan being cpu linked, I connected gpu and cpu heatsinks in order to have the same temp on both chip (which is not the case but quite close at least)
By that way if the temp increase in the gpu the temp increase in the cpu and the speed of the fan increase to offset and then the max gpu temp decrease
it took me less than 2 minutes to do that
(opening the case, cutting a piece of copper, adding the copper sheet, closing the case) that's it
that's a good °C/time spent ratio
the drawback is that the idle gpu temp is now higher (related to the cpu temp)

 

So I just made a new copper sheet.
Now 0,7mm thick.
My max. temp during 15min. Furmark was 87,5°C.
With my last mod the max. temp was at about 92°C.
So I think it would be also a improvement to use thicker copper.
Maybe I will order one at ebay from that guy from England.
And I also think the new bios would also do a improvement.

 

Still looking for copper here and you seem to make/find them as easy as a dog catches flees.

Edit: the ati hd 4650 still costs 195€

 

I was lucky, because I bought mine at the time it cost 169€. ^^
But I already did new Furmark and the max. temp increased at 88,5 in 8min.

 

A picture would be nice

 

Yesterday I did a bios update.
I reinstalled my old nVidia GeForece 9500M GS and flashed the bios under Win7 32bit.
Then I reinstalled the HD4650 and now my temps are much lower.
I just played Dragon Age for about 2 hours and my maximum temps are: GPU Temperature: 81.0°C and Memory Temperature: 77°C.
So I'm really happy about this. ^^