NVIDIA GT 650M Benchmarks

or that lol. I can still hope . If you match the first few drivers for 650m with the first few drivers for 7750m at stock conditions they match up however nvidia released them sooner so they are a couple of steps ahead... or my card is just slower either way

 

Yep stock 650M GT and 7750M seem to score the same, something like P2200-P2300.

Maybe the 7750M is just not a great overclocker.

 

the temps are good however the 7750m doesnt have the turbo boosting and the bios is locked so i cant OV it a bit

 

Anyone got Far Cry 3?

I've been fiddling around with the settings. DX11. On Ultra I get around 20fps (not surprising it looks gorgeous!) while Low gives 60fps. No overclock and using 310.64 beta driver. Please bear in mind I have DDR3 version of 650M so all of you with DDR5 will probably fare much better.

Worryingly it pushed GPU temp up to 92 degrees C! I've never seen that temperature before in any other game!

There's no noticeable difference in performance between DX11 and DX9. The settings which affect performance the most are:

MSAA (enabling it takes a heavy hit to framerate, best left off)
SSAO (HDAO most demanding, while HBAO & SSAO give slight boosts to framerate)
Post FX (Ultra/Very High settings are very FPS hungry - scale down to High or Medium for noticeable boost in performance)
Shadows (Ultra/Very High settings are very FPS hungry - scale down to High or Medium for noticeable boost in performance)

All other settings available have relatively little impact on performance compared to those above.

This game still looks very good on Low settings even! Very fun game too! Recommended!

 

i get ~2440 in 3dmark11 (stock settings & stock dell driver 307.07) .full speed on the CPU

spec:..........i7 3610. 8GB Ram, 7200rpm + msata cache. gt650M (3D vision GPU/130W)

 

To the guy with the issues with TF2 on his 650m.. I have it on my alienware m14x and have the same issue with the source engine.. terrible performance in dx9 mode.. doesnt make any sense that these games only use 20% gpu and 30% cpu

 

can we max out a game like Galaxy On Fire 2 HD on this card?

 

You can probably max out Galaxy on Fire 2 HD with the Integrated GPU.

edit: just tried it at 1920x1080 with just the Intel GPU and it was 40-60 FPS. Seems to have a 60FPS cap. So using the dedicated GPU you should be at solid 60 fps all the time.

 

anyone knows how to get >1000MHz with out windows getting errors? When i get >1000Mhz windows gives an error,

Highest score i ever got was if i recall corectly 2567 with the 306.97 drivers and system in my signature, But i want that #1 spot for the 650m and i5

Anyone running the 1866MHz ram?

 

Hey guys getting a lenovy y500 with 650m and i7-3630m in it. How of a fps boost would overclocking give.

 

A lot. But the 650m isnt designed for oveclocking. I am only OC when i run my benchmarks. I´d say you can OC the 650m by about 20-30% given you jump from 850 core clock to 1000 and memeroy to 3000Mhz.

 

Using the low voltage modded BIOS on my Clevo, I run at 1000 GPU, 1100 DDR3 RAM clock all the time. Runs great and cool. If you can get a voltage mod for your 650m it should run mighty cool and no issues.

 

Nice! I dont not have a low voltage mode on my BIOS (or at least that i know of). What is your defenition of cool? Have been wondering about good temps for my GPU but can´t find any good info about what temps i should aim for. Mine never got >60C even with the big overclock. But that is with the turbo cooling on and souding like a jet engine.

 

Geez mine can hit 92C in intense use
Non-overclocked.

 

My system got pretty good cooling. I got copper heat pipes as well as thermal paste and a turbo cooling option. Im really kind of scared about the temps of my machine and alomst always using the turbo cooling except when i am just browsing the net.

edit: just tested temps without turbo cooling got at a max after full stress of 69C. And 75C for the CPU

 

Can't remember exact temps off hand, but < 80C iirc.

 

Highest i got was p2760, this was on my m14xr2 and using msi afterburner with +135 core clock and +460 memory clock. Dont think id dare go any higher xD
It reached 57 degrees max while running 3d mark but doesnt go higher than 80 when playing games such as bf3 and witcher 2

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3720QM Processor,Alienware M14xR2 score: P2760 3DMarks

 

Can someone please take a look at this benchmark? What's wrong with my laptop? It's brand new (5 weeks) and suffers very poor performance on the gfx side (NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M, Intel Core i7-3630QM). Any ideas?

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16GA score: P498 3DMarks

Thx, Frank

 

Are you running the benchmark on battery? Some laptops, like my Y500 will clock down to 135mhz while on battery.

 

Nope, it was connected to the power cord all the time.

 

In that case, its possible the benchmark used the integrated gpu (Intel) as opposed to the 650M, which could easily explain the low score.
It probably has to do with Optimus not switching between gpu's properly.
Ideally, the Intel GPU should be used only when on battery, while the dedicated gpu (650M) should be used with the power cord plugged in.

I think you should have the option to disable the Intel GPU manually and force usage of 650M.
When you do so, run the benchmark again.

 

still then i got a score of over 600 with the HD4000
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i5-3210M Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16GA score: P655 3DMarks

What is the highest clock speed anyone here got from a 650m? Anyone got over 1000? I´d really like to claim that #1 spot for the 650m.

edit: just got my PB:
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5659572

re edit: i got my machine to 1100MHz somehow:
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5659677
#13 now for the 650m and i5

guess what: re re edit
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5659862
#7 now core clock up to 1150MHz. Im going to do an extreme one soon. With laptop botom unscrewed and facint the window which is open and it is sub zero now in Holland

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5660103
This with the cooling set up GPU never exceeded 60C acording to MSi afterburner. Tho my laptop freezes when i put the 1200 core clock on it

 

Your GPU needs more voltage. Forge has experimental BIOS which he uses so you can ask him if it gives biger voltage and if his laptop is the same as yourth (same Windows preinstalled and have the same BIOS download link)

 

thanks that was what i was thinking as well indeed. It is fine until 1160MHz but after that it freezes.

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i5-3210M Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16GA score: P2912 3DMarks
This is my last result 1 point short of the 3rd place just that one point

But how does it work updating the bios is it like a bios flash? Could i ruin my laptop with it if i dont do it properly?

Thanks for the Help again

 

Yes. No, you can't use your laptop without proper BIOS flash.

You need to find out if the base BIOS for your model and the base BIOS for his model which he used for mod are the same. You can compare download links or better checksums of both. If they are different then you need to ask for your exact mod.. svl7 from TechInferno if he agrees.

EDIT No, Forge has 660M so you need to ask SVL7. You want him to increase voltage, maybe somewhat increase default clocks too.

 

That is what scares me if i do it wrong i´ll be left with an un-usable system. Is SVL7 a member of this forum as well? Seems like a tricky buisness all. Before i´d do it i would defently triple check evrything. But when properly done loads and loads of OC potential. With my temps i´d even do an atempt at 1500MHz or something like that

I wouldnt need to increase stock clocks. Actualy i am a very light user. I never challange my GPU. I thought i would with the CAD work from Uni but actualy i dont. Sketchup isnt demanding at all and sketchup is the only program i use.

 

wow u guys are so lucky u can clock ur cards up that much. stupid hp had to lock mine.... im getting near u guy's scores with significantly lower clocks. if only i could up the voltage a bit. my best @735/1100: AMD Radeon HD 7750M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3720QM Processor,Hewlett-Packard 1851 score: P2896 3DMarks

 

I tried some different drivers but the 306.97 gives the best OC potential. I mean if i could get the voltage up i could probably run in exces of 1500MHz. At 1150Mhz i was running on an average temp of 50C. But the ambient temp was very low maybe even sub zero and i was running with the back panel off.

The score of you is very nice as well Comming close especialy with the better processor. Are you running on stock clocks? It doesnt matter you run the same results with lower clocks as you have a totaly different card :thumbsup: At stock my 650m scores in the low 2000´s region.

 

not the one i posted above. for stock clocks my score is around 2200-2300. im hate not being able to bump up voltage. my card stays cool too

 

I cannot bump up the voltage as well unless i do a bios flash with a modded bios with voltage adapter. Those clocks were established on the stock voltage

 

yeah ik but hp locked my bios so thats not an option ;( ah well i dont need to OC much anyway... i dont game much with school work and all

 

My bios is locked as well. But if you get a modded BIOS then flash the BIOS you wont have a locked one anymore

 

yeah i asked around before but apparently mine have to be HP signed or something so its very difficult to modify and flash it

 

I'm thinking of getting a lappy with a 650M to replace my 5870 on my Asus...really only want something similar or a little better. Is it a good choice?

 

The 650m isnt going to be too much of an upgrade.From what i have seen from comparing benchmarks (passmark and 3dmark 06 and vantage) the 650m is around 10-20% better on benchmarks. In gaming the difference might be a little bigger due to better drivers. As i am no gamer i dont know anything about rl scores all i know is from benchmarks (then you ask why you got a 650m :thumbsup So if you are fine with your 5870 now and dont think you will run much heavyer stuff in the future sure it is a good choise. As you say you want something simulair it is a good choise. Note that there is a big difference in 650m cards as you got ones with GDDR5 and GDDR3. The 640m, 650m and 660m GDDR5 are all the same family with only difference in chip quality and clocks. If you find a good laptop that fits your needs with a 650m sure go for it. I´d always prefer to get something better tho to be sure anything you throw at it will be done fast. Something like a 670m(x) is a big jump from the 650m especialy with a full HD screen. But only very few laptops got a 670m(x) only gaming laptops. But the 650m tends to be the best you can get in non (or semi) gaming laptops.

However the 650m i got runs cool and got great OC potential (comming into 670m teretory on stock voltage). I´d say the 650m is a decent alrounder. What are your other options, HD 7750m´s, 660m´s ?

 

5870m is faster than GT650m so no its not a good choice.

 

source? 10 char

 

Ah nuts, really?

 

keeding?

Agree about what dalielschoon said

 

Hmmm, I guess I have to look into it a little more.

 

Older architecture, more heat, more power consumption but HD 5870m is slighly underclocked desktop HD5770/6770.

Check notebookcheck and it look for some benchmarks. I dont say its a better card but it is faster on paper than GT650m.

 

And 650M is slightly underclocked 660m which is slightly underclocked future 750m or 760m LOL. And even on paper 650M is higher.

 

When i check the 650m got the upper hand. Look at the metro2033 results. The 650m got a lot better highest score. As well cas for COD MW2.

If you buy me those games i can some benchmarks for you :thumbsup:

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 - NotebookCheck.net Tech

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

Then also in benchmakrs the 650m is around the 20-10% faster.

 

Hmmm, interesting...well that's reassuring lol.

 

Reassuring or not it does not justify the "upgrade" you want in my opinion...

 

Nice #s man, did you ever find out if you could overvolt your card?

 

He can. 10 char

 

gonna ask on techinferno got my 5 posts there. Lots of usefull info there. The potential this card got i think i can get it to 670MX levels with the overvolting. Its now on 670m levels


At undying host. A newer platform will always be faster. Just because its newer. The 3rd gen i7QM are twice as fast as the 1st gen. So not only the GPU will be better just evrything.

 

I had a similar question on my last purchase... I wanted to downsize laptops but not lose any performance and gain battery life/portability. I do game a lot so performance was very important. I went from an Asus g73jh (17" 5870/i7 1st gen) to a g46 (14" 660m/i5 3rd gen) and I get better performance across the board. It wasn't a huge jump, but was the difference of being able to go from medium to high in my current games. Still can't max all games or anything but for comparisons sake its definitely a comparable performer and in everything I tested a bit faster. The 5870 was still fast enough for my needs so I didnt have to have or want to pay for 680m performance, but was a win win in my book upgrading... battery life went from less than an hour to five+ hours and weight/size is less than half.

 

Cool, thanks man, I've been looking around a bit but haven't found any info on a vbios for the MSI 650m.

Kepler cards are awesome like that looking forward to seeing what kind of numbers you can squeeze out of it.