The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    NVIDIA GT 650M Benchmarks

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cakefish, Jun 13, 2012.

  1. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,314
    Messages:
    4,901
    Likes Received:
    1,132
    Trophy Points:
    231
    To do that he should ask svl7 from techinferno forum. He has already made 1 bios mod for GE60 660M lowering voltage.
     
  2. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,473
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    66
    yeah just asked there. I actualy am aiming for a 4000 score on 3dmark. The stock for the 650m is around 2200. But when i cool it with good air from outside (its around 10C now) should run pretty cool. When i set my scores with the 1150MHz core clock temps were just over 50C (temps outside were -5 back then i supose)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3820QM Processor,Apple Inc. Mac-C3EC7CD22292981F score: P4423 3DMarks
    Wanna beat him :thumbsup:

    What voltage should i aim for with such a massive OC 1.4V or something like that?
     
  3. failwheeldrive

    failwheeldrive Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,041
    Messages:
    1,868
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Yeah I suggested that to him a few days ago when we were talking about modded vbioses :)

    Good god that's insane! lol are you sure that's legit? That benchmark puts stock 675ms and 6990ms to shame!

    It kind of depends on the stock voltage and what your card's tolerances are. I go up to 1.05v with my 680m with no issues (stock voltage is .987)
     
  4. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,473
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    66
  5. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,314
    Messages:
    4,901
    Likes Received:
    1,132
    Trophy Points:
    231
    LOL. Your current is under 0.9V, right? Somewhere about 0.86. Make it 0.94 or maybe 1.00V.
     
  6. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,473
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    66
    nope i have seen it at over 1.1V. I am basicly looking for a massive OC for benchmarks and then put it back
     
  7. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

    Reputations:
    1,643
    Messages:
    3,205
    Likes Received:
    1,469
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Tested the new 313.95 beta drivers with a overclock of +135MHz core & +200MHz mem:

    [​IMG]

    To the poster above - I am confused as to how you managed to get so much of a higher score in your physics when your CPU is exactly the same as mine?
     

    Attached Files:

  8. failwheeldrive

    failwheeldrive Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,041
    Messages:
    1,868
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    56
    That's a tiny overvolt. You may be right, but normally for heavy overclocks you'd increase voltage above 1.00v. I never overclocked my old 650m so I don't really have any experience with it though.

    Sounds good. 3.5k is certainly possible I think. Good luck!
     
  9. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,877
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Once I get my i7 quad core (i7-3610QM only) back in my Sager NP6110 (currently testing with an i5-3360m), I can hit P3200+ 3DMark11 no problem even at stock voltage, likely 3500-3600 with slight overvolt.
     
  10. failwheeldrive

    failwheeldrive Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,041
    Messages:
    1,868
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    56
    How are temps when overclocking with your 6110? My old NP6165 ran really cool, but I'm just wondering how the smaller chassis handles cooling during heavy overclocks.
     
  11. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,473
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    66
    My ram is probably faster (corsair Vengeance). I seen an increase in CPU scores when i got the faster ram. Furthermore my systems runs really cool. At full load when i ran that benchmark the GPU never run much hotter than 50C. Same goes for the CPU (eventho i didnt check that time). I dont know about MoBo quality and chipset if that can have a difference. Never the less good score :)

    That is what i think is a pitty that the system as a whole is mesuered the first score. This way because i only have an i5 i can never compete with the people with an i7. Eventho i might be able to reach the highest OC of all
     
  12. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,877
    Trophy Points:
    931
    GPU is usually less than 75C, CPU can be the challenge though, but with gaming it's usually under 85C, typically under 80C. Benchmarking is a different story. The GPU I don't think has ever exceeded 80C though, but I can easily push the CPU to its limits and reach 95C before it starts to throttle.
     
  13. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,314
    Messages:
    4,901
    Likes Received:
    1,132
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Daniel, are you sure? In attached screenshot I see 0.84V max for GT 650M with 2GB of GDDR5 RAM.
    Are you aware that svl7 doubtfully will cook vBIOSes mods for all occasions in your life LOL. For a long-term usage in my mind and for all other people be able to use it I believe around 1V is good enough.
    wKbj1.jpg
     
  14. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,473
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    66
    this is my source. But i dont know if this is a good to way to messuere voltage

    Untitled.png

    what do you mean with this?
     
  15. failwheeldrive

    failwheeldrive Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,041
    Messages:
    1,868
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    56
    He means you shouldn't use a heavy overvolt as a long term solution. I would just recommend using stock voltage normally and 1.0+ (my guess is 1.03-1.05) for benchmarking.
     
  16. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,473
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Yeah as i said earlyer. I am not planning on a standart OC or OV. As i dont game i dont need it. I only want more power for the benchmarks i´ll run :) So after the those i´ll just set it back to stock voltage. But when running the benchmarks i want more power to get my graphics score on 3dmark over 3000-3500 is what i am aiming for (am at over 2800 now stock is somewhere 2000-2200)
     
  17. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,314
    Messages:
    4,901
    Likes Received:
    1,132
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Even if we are lucky and he will make a bios modification he will change 3 voltage values. 1 is for 2D mode (low voltage). 2-nd is for 3D mode. And third... most likely he will disable turbo mode at all for better stability while OCed.
    You will not be able to change voltage with slider after his mod. More voltage means more heat anyways.
    He will also unlock OCing (for doing it without bat files).
    So whatever he will mod he will do it limited amount of mods. If he decides to do it at all.

    As about your voltage level. Could you check it with GPU-z for example?
     
  18. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

    Reputations:
    1,643
    Messages:
    3,205
    Likes Received:
    1,469
    Trophy Points:
    231
    650M goes up to 1.10V at stock condition with no overvolting necessary? Well, my DDR3 version does. Clearly DDR3 version must be set at higher voltages than GDDR5 version.

    You should be able to go to 1.1V if my DDR3 can. Watch the temps though.
     
  19. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,473
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    66
    at 1150 the temps were 50C. Temps are no problem :D Waiting for the modded vbios tho.. I wonder when it i´ll come :D
     
  20. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

    Reputations:
    1,643
    Messages:
    3,205
    Likes Received:
    1,469
    Trophy Points:
    231
    How is this possible? Your cooling system must be liquid nitrogen!

    Mine has gone up to 92C in the past and that's not overclocked. Overclocking doesn't actually seem to increase temps for me - but they're high anyway - in the mid-to-high 80s most of the time.
     
  21. failwheeldrive

    failwheeldrive Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,041
    Messages:
    1,868
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Is your laptop tiny or something? That seems really high for that gpu. I don't think my old 650m ever got above 60C during gaming (Sager NP6165)
     
  22. fantomasz

    fantomasz Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    147
    Messages:
    1,113
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    any benchmark for SLI in lenovo?
     
  23. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,473
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    66
    My laptop has a turbo cooling button which increases noise and airflow. Then i unscrewed the botom cover (got acces to GPU, CPU etc its a gaming laptop) and then put it on its side so it had free airflow. Also the room temp was i think somewere around 10C. Im very happy with the cooling in my laptop :)
     
  24. imglidinhere

    imglidinhere Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    387
    Messages:
    1,077
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Notebookcheck.net has a review on it.

    There's about a 40% gain in performance.
     
  25. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,473
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    66
  26. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,473
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    66
    with the 313.96 and 135MHz core and 1000MHz mem i get only a 2400 graphics score. You got a lot higher overall score.
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i5-3210M Processor,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-16GA score: P2526 3DMarks
     
  27. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

    Reputations:
    1,643
    Messages:
    3,205
    Likes Received:
    1,469
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Updated OP with refreshed graph with 313.96 beta drivers with two new games.

    [​IMG]

    Will eventually get around to benchmarking games like Skyrim, Mass Effect 3, Crysis 2 and Borderlands 2 using FRAPS when I have time. And of course Crysis 3 and Bioshock Infinite when they release.

    Oh, and the Catzilla benchmark too.
     

    Attached Files:

  28. failwheeldrive

    failwheeldrive Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    1,041
    Messages:
    1,868
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Nice work. Were they all the same settings at 720p?
     
  29. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

    Reputations:
    1,643
    Messages:
    3,205
    Likes Received:
    1,469
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Maxed out settings apart from exclusive NVIDIA effects like PhysX (for fair comparison to equivalent AMD cards). 1366x768 with no AA.
     
  30. danielschoon

    danielschoon Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    241
    Messages:
    1,473
    Likes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    66
    When i am playing BF3 with settings on high, textures on ultra and 4x AA i get around 30 fps. It varies from 25 to 40 most of the time. Pretty decent i´d say. Eventho you really notice fps go down with the high settings
     
  31. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

    Reputations:
    2,314
    Messages:
    4,901
    Likes Received:
    1,132
    Trophy Points:
    231
    [​IMG]

    My sore. 1111/2501
     
  32. InspiredE1705

    InspiredE1705 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    329
    Messages:
    328
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    31
    So what if it scores this much FPS in games... 1366 x 768 resolution is PATHETIC and I consider this a junk laptop. My old Dell E1705 has 1920 x 1200 screen resolution, but it's ok for old games like Neverwinter Nights 2. Plays Crysis on low settings though, but that's no fun.
     
  33. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

    Reputations:
    1,643
    Messages:
    3,205
    Likes Received:
    1,469
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Calm down dear, it's only benchmarks! When I have the time I'll re-run these benches and more on my external 1080p monitor (my TV, actually) if that'll make you happy :)

    Besides 1366x768 is fairly common among laptops, it's not unheard of in the mobile realm.
     
  34. LanceAvion

    LanceAvion Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    131
    Messages:
    736
    Likes Received:
    168
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Has anyone done any 650M SLI benchmarks? I'm curious as to what my y400 is capable of but I don't have the funds to grab the second 650m at the moment.
     
  35. DavesIKnow

    DavesIKnow Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    19
    Messages:
    31
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Hey CakeFish - great thread - Arma 2 (and Dayz if you load it) was mentioned a few times from what i read but i couldn't find anywhere where the actual results were posted....did you try that game? And what were the results? tia
     
  36. DjSweetBazz

    DjSweetBazz Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
  37. Petkooo

    Petkooo Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    problem solved
     
  38. LanceAvion

    LanceAvion Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    131
    Messages:
    736
    Likes Received:
    168
    Trophy Points:
    56
  39. AMDs

    AMDs Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Anyone has a bench showing how this GPU runs Crysis 3 or some personal experience?
     
  40. Petkooo

    Petkooo Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    well on my dell with the core clock at 935mhz and the memory at 2200mhz, I get a constant 50-55fps on medium 1366x768
     
  41. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

    Reputations:
    1,643
    Messages:
    3,205
    Likes Received:
    1,469
    Trophy Points:
    231
    D: NO WAY. IMPOSSIBLE.

    I get severe frame drops down to 20fps at lowest!!! What driver are you using???!!! Please tell me PLEASE!!! I'm desperate.
     
  42. Petkooo

    Petkooo Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    no its not impossible :) some screenz: 03RcD4G.jpg 8qlTezl.jpg u7YuYB7.jpg b8vmFkB.jpg and my graphic options: fU58Omi.jpg
    as u can see even with explosions and stuff its still around 50-55
    I use the latest nvidia driver 314.07+MSI Afterburner for the extra juice on the core clock and the memory clock
     
  43. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    211
    Messages:
    2,376
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    56
    when i tried the crysis 3 MP beta, I also had frame rate drops :(. maybe its fixed now
     
  44. hybridic

    hybridic Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hey

    I planning to get a laptop for mostly gaming and photoshop. I just want to know that should i get the same laptop as you are having ( i5-3210m with gt 650m) or should i buy the higher version having a i7-3630 with gt 650m ?

    For reference here are the links to the configurations
    1) Samsung NP550P5C-S05IN Laptop (3rd Gen Ci7/ 8GB/ 1TB/ Win8/ 2GB Graph) - Samsung: Flipkart.com

    2) Samsung NP550P5C-S04IN Laptop (3rd Gen Ci5/ 6GB/ 1 TB/ Win8/ 2GB Graph) - Samsung: Flipkart.com

    I wont be getting new laptop until 4 years . should i invest more and get i7 ?
     
  45. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

    Reputations:
    21,580
    Messages:
    35,370
    Likes Received:
    9,877
    Trophy Points:
    931
    Go with i7. Quad core is the way to go. And heck, that's only a 6% cost increase to go from a low end dual core to a quad. Best investment you could make.
     
  46. south_valhalla

    south_valhalla Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    8
    Messages:
    207
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    41
    I've been looking at this forum for a while now and haven't found what I was after. Maybe I missed it?

    Can someone recommend MSI Afterburner settings for the GDDR5 650m? I know it can be maxed out, but wouldn't that put a lot of strain/heat on the chip? Can anyone suggest a 'moderate' number for Afterburner?
     
  47. Cakefish

    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

    Reputations:
    1,643
    Messages:
    3,205
    Likes Received:
    1,469
    Trophy Points:
    231
    I use core clock +135 and memory +200.
     
  48. south_valhalla

    south_valhalla Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    8
    Messages:
    207
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    41
    Thanks Cakefish! I've seen that you've tested quite extensively. Should I move the bar up slowly, or is it OK to just set it to what you have?

    Do you know what the percentage performance increase is? 10% 20%? Also, am I correct in that you said the temps stay about the same?

    Finally, I downloaded the latest verison from the MSI site...but it tells me that there is a v 2.4.0. Anyone have a link?
     
  49. hybridic

    hybridic Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Another question
    I think both i5 and i7 have HT (correct me if i am wrong ) . I read somewhere that HT leads to several performance issues ? are you aware of any issues related to it or is it just a minute thing ?
     
  50. hybridic

    hybridic Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
← Previous pageNext page →