No more overclocking on Nvidia mobile GPUs

What software did you use to modify your vBios?

 

You think OCN is bad, have a look at [H]ardOCP. For a site that's supposed to bring together the "true" hardware enthusiasts, the amount of ignorance and fanboyism is pathetic.

 

just tried that asus gpu tweak thingy, doesnt really DO anything *lol* theres just a button labeled "GPU overclock" that u can switch on or off, thats it. clocks dont change at all

 

Maxwell II Bios Tweaker

It's a recurring theme in pretty much every forum outside of here and T|I

Is this with 347.xx driver?

 

I think this forum and T|I brain drained away all the intelligent users from the other sites.

 

nope, that was with 346.87...

 

It probably only works with the ASUS laptops then.

 

I signed petition. Only one in a million. But every one adds up right.

 

yea ocn is good for anything involving desktop hardware, but try talking about games, GPU's, or anything else and it just devolves into a troll fest.

 

You know, it wouldn`t surprise me that Asus had a finger in this move to disable overclocking.
Now they can dangle that +5% (lol) OC carrot in front of potential customers because nobody else can.

That, or Nvidia have made the GPU Tweak program redundant after the latest drivers. Not sure

 

If it's an OEM, I thought Dellienware is the prime suspect so far?

 

Scary theory you are presenting here.
My GTX 970M have 4 VRMs btw
Maybe thats why SVL managed 1500MHz with his 970M

Could be several suspects. Not just Dell. Nvidia may have talked to several OEMs asking their stance on this. If the OEMs said they had some returns/warranty issues due to overclocking and asked Nvidia to quietly disable overclocking, well, that could have happened as well.
Plus its in OEMs best interest to be able to sell more rebranded crap if the users can`t overclock their GPUs. Enough users that doesnt know the difference between 840M and 940M to net the OEMs some more money I guess :/

Sad that neither Dell, Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, Clevo, anyone, have said anything about this change yet

 

Why Nvidia and not AMD, though? Aside from the GTX 580M/675M, haven't recent high-end mobile GPUs from the red team such as the 7970M (and its rebrands), 6990M, and 6970M been much more prone to failure?

 

I did not read the full thread but does this also apply to people with modded vbios? The software just won't work anymore in the newer drivers?

Last time I buy nVidia.

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Yes it does. Control of clocks and voltage in software is completely gone.

 

OMFG ... dealing with desktop users is so frustrating....

As I said I opened a thread about this on my countries top tech forum and have had so much negative feedback....

Basically most guys have no idea what the 900 series GPU's are capable of and some even quoted bumpgate to say that NVIDIA did us a favor by disabling OC!!!!

I could just string those idiots up by their toes and beat them silly with a stick!!!

 

Luckily I have no need for it right now but if nVidia is going to play that game, it leaves the gate wide open for AMD. I'd take a slightly slower AMD card next upgrade than support nVidia again.

And to think I was going to buy a pair of 980s for my desktop in a month or two...

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I come from ATI (5870M with MSI vBIOS Mod) and laughed about the Desktop 970 3.5GB trouble, ok not so hard cause the card performes really well, but thats really hard for customers and a friend of me is really upset with this, i understand this in full.

Now nVidia comes arround with the "oh we force you to not touch any clockspeed for your mobile cards anymore". Hard, i mean i understand in some devices the cooling system is not best but if temperature treshold is reached, it will clock/volt/multiplier lower. I did not see the issue.

So my 970M 6GB performs okay, for now, but i guess theres > 20% performance increase possible, so when an alternative AMD card is out there i´ll definitely will get one.

For me this step from nVidia is forwards to " built in obscelescense"

Is there an thread about 9X0M alternative vBIOS? I mean, if that is the onley way, to force any "legit" Voltage/Clockspeed (not too hard) but little more than "stock" if needed ... but this will be hard without the possibility to ocing via software and testing , damn nVidia !!! Really upset with this.

aVa

 

Many of the desktop users out there are flat-out retarded. I have accounts at every major OC site, and I only check them when I need info.

 

Yeah, spent many years in that arena. Remember for many them its a P'ing up the wall contest. 'My CPU is bigger than your CPU .'

 

Easy steps to modify your vBios:

1) Download Tech GPU-Z and save your bios.
Basically, it's explained here:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/i...-bios-nibitor-gpu-note-work-nvidia-cards.html
/!\ Don't download nibitor

2) Download Maxwell II Bios tweaker and modify your saved vbios. You would want to save it on another file, in case you want to flash back to stock vbios.
Tutorial (in french, I will translate it if you want!) :
http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/Hardware/2D-3D/voltage-debride-unlocked-sujet_967737_1.htm

3) Download nvflash. Put the edited vbios in the same folder. DISABLE YOUR GPU (SUPER IMPORTANT) from device manager. Open elevated command line in cmd, cd to nvflash folder and then type:

nvflash -6 your_edited_bios_name.rom

4) Re-enable you Gpu, restart your laptop, and you have your own modded vbios on your notebook !

 

How about using NVFLASH in DOS instead of Windows and then you won't have to worry about disabling the GPU or mucking stuff up.

Edit: Nvm Fox knows best

 

Btw, if anyone has the stock 970m 6gb vbios, i'd love to get it from you. Flashed and forgot to save it. Lol!

 

If you know of an NVFLASH for DOS that works with Maxwell MXM modules, please provide a link. The only compatible Maxwell MXM NVFLASH I know about only works for Windows.

Use 344.75... seems to be the best 980M driver IMHO. Also seems to be the best one for my 780M SLI.

 

My bad, didn't know that.

 

I'm sorry :/ I only have the 3gb version. (And I have an Asus so my vBios is factory modded )

And btw, thank you octiceps for the tip concerning Maxwell II mobile tweaker !

 

@jaybee83 - as I mentioned, I am running 344.75 and ASUS GPU Tweak works fine with 780M SLI and 980M SLI. It might be that driver you are using.

 

count me in for a stock 980M MXM vbios from Clevo!

did some comparisons between 344.75 / 344.91 / 346.87 and the differences were negligible at best... so i thought i might as well go with the highest version number, hoping for most optimized games? if u have any additional info about that, shoot

edit: posted at the same time, thx for the update. is there any advantage using that tool though? any differences to nvidia inspector?

 

Plus 346.87 is the "magical G-Sync driver."

 

I use EVGA Precision X. It's my favorite tool. I just happened to know that ASUS GPU Tweak worked, so I wanted to show you that it did and suggest maybe it was the driver you are using that is preventing it from working. They all do the same thing when they work, so I see no advantage to choosing one over another. NVIDIA Inspector (IMHO) is cumbersome to use because it does not sync settings to both GPUs. It does have the feature of shortcuts that you can use to make batch files, and I do use those sometimes. In the grand scheme of things, none of it matters. You can use whatever you like best. Afterburner lacks voltage control on my 780M cards. Haven't checked to see if voltage support is present with 980M.

I don't use an external monitor, so I was not aware of that. If I owned a G-Sync monitor, then it would be pretty important.

 

I will also be avoiding team green in the future unless Nvidia reverses their decision on this, and issues some sort of apology!

I am in the process of getting a desktop build put together and was going to go with a 970, even with the recent issues. Now with this recent news confirming that Nvidia has purposely broken/removed OC of notebook cards, I will never purchase from them again.

I don't care if I have to take a slightly warmer/slower card from AMD, they need the support more than ever. Just think about what Nvidia would do if they had ZERO competition in the dedicated graphics arena. AMD is in desperate need of market share, and profits so they can invest in R&D and close the gaps between them and Nvidia. This won't happen unless we all support them. The time is now, I implore all of you to think very hard about what Nvidia has been going lately, and ask yourselves if you can seriously support a company that treats their enthusiast users like this.

/end rant.

 

Are you saying you want a stock 980M Clevo vBIOS? I can upload two different stock Clevo 980M vBIOS versions if you want them.

 

thx for the clarification fox mainly using nvidia inspector exactly cuz of the ability to make shortcuts and batch files, actually

edit: yes please@stock clevo vbios as long as theyre for the 8GB MXM version

 

Ask and ye shall receive...

BOOM! Here ya go. 8GB 980M Clevo vBIOS.

 

seen any differences between the two? luckily i remembered i still have some bios pictures that show my original vbios version

 

Nope, both seem exactly the same to me, except for the vBIOS version numbers displayed. All of the specs viewed in Maxwell BIOS Tweaker II are identical. Some were saying "12" was for SLI and "10" for single GPU, but I honestly find zero difference in their functionality. My GPUs were purchased as an SLI kit from RJ Tech and came with the "12" version.

 

do you, by chance, remember which vbios version numbers were displayed with these two?

just checked them both in maxwell bios tweaker and as you said, seem exactly the same.

 

All you have to do is look in Maxwell Tweaker and it will tell you in the "version" field next to the NVIDIA logo.

The "10" and "12" in the vBIOS file names are the last two digits in the vBIOS version.

 

got those, just thought that maybe theyd show something different in the system bios once flashed

 

No, nothing changes with that once flashed. The system BIOS shows the same version for the vBIOS version as GPU-Z or NVIDIA Inspector or the Maxwell BIOS Tweaker.

 

I just received my sagar np9377 with 980m sli yesterday and my vbios on my cards are 12 as well.

 

I just wanted to take a moment and say thank you to all the members and administrative individuals that are taking time to address this issue and educate others so we can all approach this respectively. This is the kind of teamwork that makes this forum valuable and I am grateful to be part of. Thank you to all.

 

This kind of teamwork is also unique to NBR. Try finding this level of cohesiveness on ANY hardware forum centered around desktops.

...yeah I thought so.

 

Maxwell mobile GPUs generally work between 70-75 celsius which is pretty fine for overclocking but prevented from overclocking by NVIDIA. Yet I can overclock my Kepler GTX 870M with same driver which works at 86-87 celsius most of the time and still I won't overclock it because of that dangerous temperature. Isn't that funny, lol

 

Actually Maxwell GPU's run at 60-70C tops.. Mine actually runs under 60C when in BF4 most of the time.. Plenty of headroom for OCing..

 

Well, that is real shame but I don't think NVIDIA will step back. I remember what they did to GTX 880M's problem due to overclocking and what they did is nothing...

 

880M struggles to work well just running stock clocks for many people. A few have massaged it to the point where it is fairly decent, but you're right... they did absolutely nothing and left the poor souls that bought it high and dry.

 

Petition and survey filled out and signed.

 

karasahin, there really wasn't much that could be done. The 880m was a relabeled 780m over-volted and OC'd from the factory - there was no more headroom left. The 880m was at the top of the die's OC range, and a less than stellar cooling system would show problems even without OC.

 

Just saw this for the first time.

I think what ticks me off the most is their excuse and deceit. They say it was because notebooks are dangerous environments to overclock in. In reality, its because someone can buy an 860m and get nearly 870m power from it. I haven't seen a laptop with 860m that couldn't safely overclock by +135MHz. The 980m was going to be a harder sell when an overclocked 970m gets very close to the same performance without a $300 upgrade.

Don't be fooled. Nvidia isn't worried about your laptop's temperatures...they're worried about the bottom line and will alienate their loyal enthusiast customer doing it.

/rant

Love you NBR <3