Nvidia G-Sync hack - it works on every display supporting DisplayPort 1.2

That Chi Mei TN panel is same in GT72 TN and it is confirmed 100% that with MSI GT72 with TN and 970M has no Gsync. I don't buy that it is because of GPU.

 

Oh arse, I thought you were running Win 8 not 8.1.

New inf incoming as all the changes I made were for 8.

 

Yeah, the G751JT PCPer tested has 970M.

 

Ok updated for 8.1 (Gamernab).

 

Tested. No change.

 

No LG IPS. No workie. Pretty simple.

 

The 346.87 driver was probably only designed to support G-Sync on the ASUS G751 and just so happens to work on the MSI GT72 because it uses the same panel. That Gamenab glory hound totally overhyped it, he should get into marketing or something.

 

Yes. The GT72 side was probably a coincidence due to the same hardware. It was an ASUS Nordic tech that accidentally posted it publicly. No one has been able to get it to work that does not have that panel (LG Phillips LP173WF4-SPD1 (LGD046C) monitor connected via eDP).

 

Was worth a try. I do notice stutter in games, was hoping this would fix it. Anyway, thanks for all the attempts iaTa, reverting back to the 344.24 driver since at least I can overclock on it.

 

Can't you overclock on R346.87?

 

how did you modify the inf file? I have a 970m and I couldn't install even though 970m was clearly listed in the inf file

 

Just for the record.. Didn't work with my Alienware's internal display or an ASUS VG248QW via Display Port.

 

That's because your device subsys ID is not in the inf.

You can change one of the existing 970M IDs to your full device ID (under NTamd64.6.3 if you are running 8.1) but you should also follow through to the relevant section and change all the reg keys and settings to match an existing inf that has been setup for your chip/notebook.

e.g. If this was your inf and device ID line from a working driver:

%NVIDIA_DEV.13D7.22DA.1043% = Section???, PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_13D7&SUBSYS_75001558

Search for and copy everything under [Section???], plus two of the lines will reference other parts of the inf that you will also have to copy:

AddReg = nv_commonDisplayModes_addreg__??
AddReg = nv_miscBase_addreg__??

Search for and copy everything under [nv_commonDisplayModes_addreg__??] and [nv_miscBase_addreg__??].

Now open the inf you want to modify. Change one of the existing 970M device ID entries to your ID and follow the sections as above and paste in the relevant settings from your working driver inf.

metacarpus I'm going to send you a new inf for 346.87 as I changed Windows 8 before.

One last try

EDIT: Ok inf attached for 346.87.

EDIT2: New inf attached for 346.87 (For anyone else testing this has only been modified to work with a Clevo 8GB MXM 980M and Windows 8.1).

 

You can change the INF files all you want but the problem is with the display.
The reason why GT72 and G751 get it to work is because they use the same IPS display, LGD046C.

So far we have confirmed that
Alienware 18 - Not working
GT72 TN display - Not working
GT72 IPS display - Working
G751 - Working
P750ZM - Not working
NP9377SM-A - Not working

 

Worth a watch.

 

Do you have Dell?
Go to nvdmi.inf.
Replace all 780M with 970M
Replace all 119F with 13D8
Exit and save.
Disable Driver signing enforcement if you have Win 8
Run the exe in the folder you unpacked and it will install

Pretty funny that the gamenab dude claimed he have coded and worked on this project for a long time, to enable G-sync for us mobile users. When it was infact a leaked driver from Nvidia to OEMs that enabled support for it. Not his work

 

Yep... He certaily had his 15 minutes of fame...

I'm glad he shared it at least. Nvidia have been caught with their pants down

What's the bet Nvidia could probably do this on just about any monitor to a degree. They have totally failed trying to monetize it

 

It's worth reading the article on PCPer to get perspective on that: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Mobile-G-Sync-Confirmed-and-Tested-Leaked-Alpha-Driver.

That's one reason why only a single display works thus far and how only laptops work. It's not as simple as any display, by any means.

 

And you know that for a fact? I think we need to test it with a P750 and an LG 1080p IPS before you can say that.

 

testing is good and fun, so dont hold back guys

 

Well bang goes your theory Cloud.

Looks like Gamernab may not be talking BS about his modifications.

 

And on a Fermi GPU too. Interesting...

 

funny, first time i saw nvidia's official comment on that@gsync on laptops coming out soon&leaked driver, i thought THAT was the BS staying tuned for more info

 

He talks too much. I wonder when he gets time to write a code if he posts Goodbyes, so much not useful info for average users and answers comments?
Even if he is truly capable of doing Gsync support he still wanted to be loud and take time and... who knows what is next in his plans.

P.S. I don't like his info about "Gimped 980". He claims that its vRAM suffers too but nobody found that. You may laugh but this is the shadiest moment to me. Not even that it was clear since the GAME OVER LOGO where story was heading to (no "mod driver" published in closest future).

 

hmm this is interesting. I thought the way this driver can work is that nvidia add support for that specific TCON on that LG panel, but apparently not huh?

btw if anyone has an aorus x7 pro, please also try this out because it has the same IPS panel.

 

One thing is getting the software to add that feature in the settings which can be done by tricking the software to think its reckognizing a compatible display, another is getting it to actually work on a non eDP display.
Freesync only works on displays with DisplayPort and I don`t think G-Sync will either.

 

but that brings the question back to its original spot. does it work because nvidia designed the driver around a specific panel or should it work because it actually works for all eDP displays without customized settings?

 

The samsung display he posted the screenshot from doesnt have eDP so I`m thinking he changed something in a file to trick the software thinking it does have eDP. Hence why it shows G-sync in the settings.

That he haven`t posted any proof except the pendulum video from Asus G751 (which have LG display with eDP) and not the Samsung display doesnt actually help his case either. My Alienware with Samsung display didnt support G-sync. I tried his drivers.

We shall see.

 

Neither of his "proofs" proved that it is possible to do on DP Monitors or even any notebook without LG panel. This is one.
There is no hard evidence that he is lying about his ability to mod drivers. This is two.
The hardest suspicious I get is from his post about 980 being gimped with vRAM. He (as gaming technique reviewer and designer of variable Sync Algorithm) has to be skilled enough to know that it's due to allocated memory by Windows is interfering results. This is three.
And finally! Instead of giving the driver he just posts some not useful info for monitor owners. He hasn't given modded driver since last week and this attentions were easily seen from the beginning. This is four.

Now being more precise about Samsung and that "number one". There are 2 monitors in Device Manager. MonInfo where you see all monitors is hied. Why didn't he show us the Nvidia Control Panel Menu where you can see all monitors connected and where is GSYNC SUPPORTED text under the exact monitor?

Conclusions: I don't buy it until I see it (proved) and I highly suggest to STOP DISCUSSING Gamenab's posts and articles for now. Yet I don't dare to call him a scam or lier. I don't do this without hard evidence... in general most of the time + he deserved that by giving 346.87 driver's unlocked file.

P.S. I wish one reviewer on overclockers who has Freesync Panel tried those drivers... but he was frightened by one member who does radical conclusions based on not solid facts. Darn, we would already have another important data to analyze. .

 

that's what I thought, there's too much to suggest that the driver only works on that single LG panel and whatever he showed us is too ambiguous to be considered real

I don't believe Nvidia has a way to generalize the modification for all TCONs on eDP panels. there's a reason they only gave it to asus and no one else

 

Well, hate to give gamenab.net more attention, but at least this latest post is interesting:

NVIDIA?

 

Hehehe I new this would happen if the drivers were in anyway legit. Got my copy for the archives.

 

Hi everybody..
I tried modded driver (with G-sync) from GAMENAB (I have MSI GT72 with 980M and IPS panel) and it works !! Games are smooth and it is really noticeable difference.. So +1 for this guy.. By the way Nvidia force Gamenab to stop his work.. This is really sad, because it works for me..

 

Who said it was Nvidia?
PCPer didnt put him in a very good light which may have been enough to just quit the show

He did however tell people about the leaked drivers and G-sync, PCPer didnt although they knew about it, so he should have some credit atleast

 

Those are his own words, he was asked to erase everything and dealt with it. That's all I know..

 

Only Nvidia has the legal authority to send him a cease & desist and scare him enough to take down his own website.

 

Yep. nVidia has more egg on their face. It's getting quite messy in here now... needs bacon too.

That driver mod was a serious jab at nVidia's marketing future. I bet they were working on an adapter for laptops so that they could charge an extra $100-150 on a laptop to make it "G-sync compatible" as well. Money that clearly at this point consumers would spend for no good reason.

Please AMD get back in the GPU game and quickly. These kinds of things will only get worse as time goes on and nVidia has no competition. Even with Freesync, until GPU's can even remotely compare with nVidia it won't make a lick of difference.

 

Although G-sync may work without the module, it is still needed to get the smoothest experience when you experience low FPS.

Without G-sync module


With G-sync module


The whole point with the G-sync module is to sync FPS with the refresh rate of the monitor. This is the job of the Altera FPGA sitting on the PCB. It isnt just sitting there doing nothing like some people have suggested.
OEMs got the leaked G-sync driver to test out G-sync. Its an Alpha driver so we dont know if a solution without the module is good enough. They may find its to inconsistent and decide to incorporate the module in their notebook. The driver was just for testing purposes, not a final product

 

The point of GSYNC is to transfer refreshing frames from GPU to monitor unchanged.
And the point of G-Module is to make this always fixed no matter what fps is.

And as for "alpha driver". I don't know where is that driver. Nobody knows except Nvidia.

 

Nothing is fixed with G-sync. The GPU can draw frames at different times, which is the reason why the display and the GPU is not in sync. The module tries makes them in sync.

 

i think thats what james meant by "fixed" @synchronizing gpu with display frames

edit: oh nice, post #5000! w00t!

 

When framerate is too low or frame is drawing too long (hick ups) GSYNC module refreshes the old one.
But I believe this is possible to do on a software level or hardware level on the side of GPU. But they wouldn't sell expensive modules then.

 

I`m so freaking jealous :/

 

ah well, there are more important things in a hardware-freak's life than gsync support

 

I don't know jb, G-sync makes a pretty huge difference IMO.

 

well, lets put it like this: what i dont know / havent experienced yet, i cant very well miss

 

lol I agree with both of you.
I want to try G-sync though. And I`ve used 120Hz before. I miss that :/

 

Interesting, Gamenab is back.

http://gamenab.net/

 

Don't you think he could help us for overclocking?