"Official" Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Review and Discussion- by yours truly

What resolution are your guys playing CoD4 in?
Tim

 

playing mine on 1280*800

 

1280 x 800 on 8510p

 

Ditto



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I have 8600GT and get about 25-30fps at 1280x800 medium-high no AA, not sure where people are getting figures of 1680x1050 4xAA, that would place it above the desktop version of the DDR3 8600GT....actually that would make it about the same as the 8800GTS...speaks for itself. But what's new on NBR. Not as bad as the guy telling everyone he was running BF2 at high on his X200, at least.

I have a 3870 in my desktop and I run COD4 at 1680x1050 4x AA. It averages about 30-70fps. And it's infinitely, vastly more powerful then a mobile 8600GT.

 

1280x800 with most things med-high, no AA

 

1680 x 1050 all high, medium AF, No AA 8600 overclocked to 560/490

 

Thanks guys!
Tim

 

I've been quite pleased that my 6600 (with the new mobo to fix my earlier issues) can do quite well with CoD4. Right now I like it on 1280x800 with most settings on low (I like everything being clear with the higher res rather than eye candy cosidering i have to make compromises). Either way, IW did a very good job with the engine, it still looks beautiful on lower settings.

 

Hey Forerunner, what driver are you using for your 8600m GT?

 

.28s These drivers are somewhat representing the trend I am getting from the newer drivers. Higher avg. fps but also a lower minimum fps and alot of fps shooting up and down.

 

Ok. Thanks

 

thank you runner, I dont even have to comment your review, its as perfect as its going to get. I think you really have what it takes to critic games on a realistic way, i fully agree with you. I am game reviewer my self, in Norway, so what you are writing is fully identical with mine. Not that my review is good, but we make sure to keep the gamers informed what they are about to buy.

Yet again, thanks mate.

Have a nice day

 

I played the demo and it was amazing...once I get back to my computer at the dorm I'll install the full ver and play online!!

 

This game is so good. The graphics and gameplay is also good. I give it a 4.5 out 5.

 

I don't like the single player at all, but the MP is fantastic...

 

I love the game, but it could be much more enjoyable in multiplayer. In multiplayer, it is unrealistic beyond measure. This is not due to the game, but to the players. There is no concerted action or strategy. It's every man for himself. People running at the speed of olympic sprinters while hipshooting 50 yards away with pinpoint precision, jumping over bullets, or my favorite: jumping in midair over bullets aimed directly at the gut 10 feet away, simultaneously switching his mag and pulling out a knife, then stabbing you -- all in one, majestic leap! Hey, no "soldier" sprints into an entire enemy squad, all firing automatic weapons directly at him, and manages to knife the entire squad. I can't count how many times someone has run directly at me while I'm firing an automatic weapon directly at him, and he manages to slit my throat. Players bouncing, skipping, hopping, and often coming at you impossibly moving like a live pinball bouncing at high speed off of bumpers, firing all the time. It's just silly. And all the kids playing seem to love this. It's just a matter of manipulating keystrokes to make your "soldier" into a superhero.

Another problem I have with the game is that you can put 3 or 4 high powered rifle slugs into somebody and he acts like a misquito just bit him -- doesn't even go down. Look, let's make it simple: headshot = DEAD; chestshot=down & helpless (ditto belly wound); .50 machine gun slug anywhere in the torso=down; etc.

I wish I could find a server for older players with a knowlege of warfare in order to play the game realistically, rather than playing a modified version of Quake or Doom!

 

Yeah play the hardcore game type. That should offer you a challenge similar to what your looking for.

 

I disagree. I thought single player was very good. It almost felt like you were in a movie.
Tim

 

Actually, I agree with this. Even in BF2, they changed it so that you could not do anything while jumping...I've also noticed that there is a lot, and I mean A LOT, of camping in COD4, something I never really noticed in COD or COD2...

I think it'd be better if they used an actual health bar system, similar to Fight Club - where if you take a very bad hit, you can still recover your health but only to about 20% of its original capacity, whereas light hits will only degrade you 5-10%.

I still love it, but it can be hard to find a decent server. And some of the levels are terrible - what's with the tiny, cramped mosque? That's not what Call of Duty is about...!

Anyway, what you're looking for offbase is either Hardcore mode in COD4, or another game entirely - like Armed Assault for the generally same environment or Red Orchestra for an entirely different time period but fairly realistic.

 

Yeah I second Red Orchestra. Great game!

I have been playing Headquarters in COD4. That helps with the camping a little bit.
Tim

 

Hardcore mode is awesome. And yes, headquarters does force people to stop camping. It's an interesting game type.

 

Thanks for the suggestions. I tried hardcore, and it is much better. Will also look into the games you suggested. Thanks again.

 

Headquarters doesn't really stop people from camping. I like to camp in headquarters and own the people who are running to the next headquarters.

Hardcore mode is pretty fun though.

 

How can you consider waiting outside of a spawn point, and shooting people who just loaded in "Owning"? Sounds more like "point-whoring" to me, no offense.

 

Are there any console commands to view fps? And does anyone have any driver recommendations?

 

just use fraps

 

Well, obviously some people will still camp, but in general, a great deal less people camp in headquarters than in other game types.

 

Camping is a valid tactic. People don't just run and gun everywhere in war.

 

People don't respawn either in real war, you have to make concessions in order to make a game fun for the general market. Camping - as in, people who hide in corners, under stairs etc, is just plain lame. If you're a sniper in a good spot, then that's fine, that's the whole point of a sniper. Even if you're a normal soldier in a great spot shooting away, that's fine too. I just hate this thing of people hiding under stairs, in corners covered in grass, waiting for people to run by and it happens much more in COD4 then it did in COD2 (of course, bolt action rifles tend not to favour hiding in corners)

 

Well the game is not very realistic indeed , it could be but that would lead to an entire different gameplay , the game is more like "nolf" used to be back then , its some kind of bunny hop genre , the skill lies not in great aming rather than in the ability to bunny jump/run and shoot the next enemy.
Something like that , dunno if u got my point though

 

Same for machine gunners. It's a heavier weapon, not meant to be moved too much, and the purpose is to surprise and take down large numbers of enemies and to provide high volume, suppressive fire. I consider "camping" to be guys with assault rifles & smg's hiding ... many of 'em especially seem to love spawn killing.

Hardcore I have found to be pretty ok. They only real problem I have is the servers that use friendly fire (good thing), but kill the guy who shot the friendly, rather than the guy who was shot (bad thing, for two reasons: first, really unrealistic; and, second, it encourages bungholes to run in front of you when you're firing in order to steal your kill; they can't get killed from the friendly fire, and they get a cheap kill out of it, especially if you've already wounded the other guy).

Looking forward to trying out Red Orchestera.

 

One thing I think that would help to make FPS games more realistic would be to get rid of jumping. I really don't think you would be able to jump with 80 pounds of kelvar, helmet, and a 15 pound weapon with another 5-10 pounds of ammo. lol

I think CoD4 has the right idea with allowing you to mount objects to "climb". Now if they could just get rid of jumping it would be very good.
Tim

 

I couldn't agree more. That and martyrdom I can't stand. I am on the fence about last stand and nade launcher whores Personally I think it'd be better without those elements.

 

I like Last Stand, I've killed piles of people using it! I hate Martyrdom, I never use it and it's banned on my clan's server....

Nade Launchers are even worse then then in BF2 though. Very, very annoying.

 

Grenade Launching is a very valid tactic. It has a Counter-balance... speed of fire from any other gun. Launchers get one shot, if that shot misses, you have an open opportunity to demolish them. Now... running around with a GL... that's just lame.

 

Grenade Launchers are great. No worse than camping in the grass, or getting sniped by someone you can't even see.

Game would be boring without explosives

 

The only time I used the grenade launcher is when I needed to complete the Challenge where you needed to kill X number of people with direct impact by grenade launcher. Other than that, it's only effective for (at most) 2 kills. It's much more effective having a different attachment on your gun that will help you attain more than 2 kills.

 

I chose the Red Dot sight over the GL, especially on the M4.

 

Same, except now I use the ACOG for the M4. Silencer for P90, red dot for G36C.

 

I agree about the bunny hopping. While I'm pretty PO'd when it happens, I have to laugh when some goof actually jumps over a speeding bullet I've fired at his chest. Yesterday, I was sniping at 3 guys, and -- I swear to God -- all three just stood there hopping up and down, and I couldn't hit a single one. They need to teach that trick to our troops in Iraq.

 

Well in COD4 I do not think bunny hopping is an issue since you can pretty much kill the person as if he weren't even jumping which is good. Now in BF2 you can bunny hop around a guy ten feet away from you and the guy will never hit you, now thats messed up, but COD4 is fine.

 

Yeah, but that guy 10 feet away from you CAN run & bounce in circles around you at about 30 mph, making it just as impossible.

 

Really, I have never really had any problems taking down a bunny hopper. If you do then fix your mouse.

 

Just knife them if they get that close.
Tim

 

So what weapons/ perks are u using ?


Well right now I think the most effictive way is to use a Mp5 , with the more ammunition perk and the faster shootin perk , uhm the third perk is the increased hip fire accury perk.

I think thats the best way to kill people who are pretty close to u , especially in small corners.

 

The knife is the pwn sauce!

Right now I really like my silenced MP5 with bandolier, stopping power, and steady aim. It likes to mow faces in CQB.

A lot of people seem to not use the stopping power perk which is actually very effective.

 

P90 with silencer and dead silence is amazing. I love when I'm walking right behind a whole group of enemies and killing one by one without them noticing.

 

Is dead silense even that efffective?I think the UAV jammer perk would be more useful, as thats how i find my enemies.

 

I find it invaluable, especially in close quarter maps, I use it with UAV jammer and its a lethal combo...that is if youre the stabby type