*Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread

I googled that model and according to the results I got, it's almost identical. At least the chassie

 

As far as I'm aware these aren't launched yet: Gigabyte, Aorus, EVGA.

For Asus, Clevo and MSI, maybe resellers that hang around here would know the answer?

Brief check for 4K models seems to show availability later on: end of August / beginning of September.

 

No. The sweet spot would be a 1065. I really do believe there will be one or 1060 Ti. That would be sweet spot. I'd only imagine a 1065 on laptops though. ( Hey dont crush my dreams. I'm not quite over the fact no 1070 is not in 14" lol)


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Nice. Just checking prices on multicom, and it seems you got this Kunshan 651R, right? I've ordered the same clevo model as well, so i love the good news what about temps, are they high?

 

That's right, I got the one with this specs: http://www.multicom.no/multicom-kunshan-p651r-156-full-hd/cat-p/c/p10634632

I'm really happy with it so far, so I think you'll like it. Regarding the temperature I'm really surprised with the result. As I mentioned above it didn't exceed 70 degrees, and there are no spots on the chassie which is burning hot, not even at hard work. The computer seems to have a sturdy build, and the keyboard is great. But you get what you pay for, so it's impossible to know how well it works after three years

 

No, that would be the 960m successor. Just look at how many 960m machines are there. They provide the best bang for the buck. Since this forum is specialized we have more people willing to spend more than an average user would. Since GTX 1050 mobile will be the successor of GTX 960M it will be the sweet spot.

 

This one looks to be in stock:
http://www.xoticpc.com/gigabyte-p37xv6-pc4k4d.html

 

http://imgur.com/a/wgLWY (i dont know how to link images)

Initial impressions:

It's 5.6 lbs - that 4.8 lbs stuff is complete ********.

Keyboard is better than i expected

Not in love with the bezel

Downloading games now

 

I really really like the Gigabyte offerings, but it looks like you'd have to jump up to their Aorus line to get G-Sync. Unless you find that the laptop does have G-Sync but they don't list it anywhere so I'm guessing not.

 

Eh? Do you even 900p/768p/720p? At 900p, my 860M (OC to exceed 960M performance) hits 45 FPS. 768p: 50 FPS. 720p: 60 FPS. That is not unplayable. Man, high expectations, high expectations everywhere.

 

I'm waiting for the Acer predator.

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MSI Taipei Pascal Laptops

 

Great overview! MSI looks like they went full hog this time around. Good for them. And those models (females not laptops, lol) look like they're 12 and malnourished. Give them all a hamburger or something.

 

LCDs look like crap when they aren't at their native resolution though...

 

Yeah, I really like the Gigabyte (and AORUS) models too. I think the AERO was great but it seemed like it throttled, so it'll be interesting to see if it gets a Pascal refresh. From what I'm seeing for the Pascal-equipped models to far, both Gigabyte and AORUS seem to be really pricey, at least partly because it seems they are shoving pretty big SSDs in there. Wish there were some more conservative configs available...

I'm personally considering the 13" AORUS, but the screen there isn't great (slow response, unnecessarily high resolution for it's size). Nothing in the 13"/14" segment has GSYNC or a high refresh if I'm not mistaken, which I'm a bit bummed about.

 

Depends on the game and LCD size in question. Witcher 3 at 768/720p on my 13.3" FHD looks surprisingly decent. There's an advantage of a HiDPI screen - upscaling can be forgiven.

 

Never said I excpected the 960m card to perform better. Also, if you managed to get stable 60 FPS at 720p, then I was unlucky with my card somehow.

 

Found the Aero 14 listed on GenTechPC - http://www.gentechpc.com/GIGABYTE-Aero-14-p/gigabyte-aero14.htm - page says that it releases in October.

 

Yes the 1050 would be the sweet spot of bang for buck. But for me. Making up a 6000 Fire strike points different between a 1060 and 1070 the "performance" sweet spot. The 965m did that perfectly.
If there was another card that could get a gpu score of 13000-14000. That's performance sweet spot right there.
The gap right now between 1060 (11500) and 1070 (17000+) is WAAAAY to big.
I do think they be able to somehow use the desktop 1060 and rename it for mobile. Coincidentally that gets around 13000 points. Can happen. But at least right now doesn't see likely. Give it 6 months.


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I would like to have an answer for all of you because a guy in another thread put all kind of doubts in my head

do you think that in the next 3-4 years I could have problems with fps and not be able to play games due to the i76700hq not being powerful enough?

because I'm sure that, given benchmarks for gtx1070 the GPU wont be a problem at all at least for 3-4 year

 

Whomever said the 6700HQ is not going to be a viable CPU in 3 years is an idiot. People have been using dual-core CPU's for longer. CPU-intensive games like Civilization benefit from a faster CPU, but don't necessarily require it.

Kaby Lake is an overclocked version of Skylake. It's not worth waiting for or upgrading to. It will be expensive, too. Cannonlake will likely be worth upgrading to.

 

this is the incriminated post ... what do you think about?

 

What do you guys think, is there gonna be cheaper variants of asus laptops with gtx1080?

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I guess I just notice it more than others. Then again, I noticed it on CRTs too.

 

This low end i7 BGA is already a bottleneck if you run 1070 Sli, but not with a single 1070.

 

Oh, I certainly notice it, too. I detest and absolutely cannot stand when the OS is set to a non-native resolution, even more so when it's set to one with a different aspect ratio than the panel. Gah, that stretching. Just that with games, I'm constantly seeing a more or less moving scene.

If there's one thing games should do, it's render the UI at native resolution, and the 3D scene at a different one, if necessary. Down scaled text looks too smooth, and upscaled text too pixellated.

 

Probably not as it would ruin any GX800 sales...

Your best bet is MSI or IMO the Clevo P870DM with single or SLI 1080s..

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How are clevo laptops in quality compared to Asus? Temps and screen?

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@J.Dre, no one said that the 6700hq won't be a good processor for 3-4 years, or at least I didn't say it.
@HardCore88 I don't know where you got the 6700hq not being a good processor from out of my posts. I never said that. I did say that the 6700hq will bottleneck the laptop before a 1070 will. This is all very subjective too, whats good enough for your games might not be good enough for mine. I game competitively, if my FPS drops due to a CPU bottleneck and I miss a shot, my team will know it and I'll feel like I let them down. If you play casually, then none of this matters. The main point I was trying to make was that putting a GTX1070 in a laptop with a 6700hq is not a balanced solution, it's too much GPU for not enough CPU. A 6820hk will be up to 20% faster overclocked and deliver a much more balanced and long lasting solution. The 1070 makes much more sense in a 4k 6700/6700k desktop replacement laptop. Just my opinion, do with it what you want.

 

that's why I quoted your post ... so people could read exactly what we were discussing.
I just wanted others' opinion .. Not because I don't trust what you said.

Anyway I never said that you said that 6700hq won't be a good processor for 3-4 years .

But you did say that right now a cpu on the same level, if not better than 6700hq, bottlenecks when you play WQHD. So the problem is the CPU and not the GPU.

So my question was if the i7 6700hq bottlenecks now at WQHD what about it in 3-4 years?

And again, I never said you said it .. read carefully my post. I even quoted you so that people could read exactly what you wrote and not take my words for good.

I just want to now what other forum members think about it because I may still have the possibility to change my order and install the i7 6820hk since they didn't start to build my laptop yet.

 

Quality: Just as good.
Temps: just as good, but cooling solutions has generally been noisier than asus alternatives.
Screen: usually the same models - there are not many gsync displays out there for example.

 

That makes sense. Sorry if I sounded offended. I was mainly trying to clarify that I didn't say what Dre had assumed was said based upon your post. I welcome more opinions and respect that you want to make an informed decision. Also my laptop is 1080p, not WQHD, so the 4720 bottlenecks my 980M at 1080p.

 

In 4 years time, pretty much any laptop hardware (in laptops around $1500~) will be a bottleneck in someway or form. You can't expect laptop hardware to perform at peak levels for more than 2 years. It's simply not possible unless you spend nearly $5000 on a laptop (e.g. P870DM3) which houses desktop-class components.

Just purchase what you can afford now and stop worrying about what may or may not happen. Don't waste money on upgrades because I guarantee you, once Cannonlake and Volta arrive, you and everyone else purchasing a laptop this year will want to upgrade again.

 

Yes you are right, but my point is:

if it's useless to have a gtx 1070 on a laptop with a cpu like 6700hq because the cpu will not be able to handle what gpu would still be .. why should I throw 300 euros out of the window? I just want to try optimizing my purchase. That's all ..

so it seems that with gtx 1070, the 6820hk is a better choice than 6700hq

 

Unless you plan on overclocking the cpu. It's pointless especially if it's at the cost of 300 euros. I think you only get 100mhz per core faster. The difference is smaller on stock than and i5 6300hq vs 6700hq from my understanding and the price difference is much smaller when they are both options.


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I just cant believe that 6700hq can be bottleneck even for 1080...

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when I talkesd aobout 300 euros I was referring to the difference between 1070 and 1060 ...

I could get the 6820hk for 110 euros more than 6700hq

 

The GTX 1070 does not need the 6820HK. The 6700HQ is sufficient.

Not referring to SLI.

 

I was wondering the same thing, if the 6700hq would be enough to handle 1080p gaming paired with the gtx1070. Guess we'll have to wait for the reviews and benchmarks

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I feel it is extremely visible. I would rather lower the other options than lower the resolution.

When you think about if the CPU is the bottleneck, it is not for gaming. At least usually.

The CPU 6700HQ is the bottleneck for activities that need CPU power. But then again, even a 6700K is a bottleneck for those activities.

I am talking about activities such as photoshop with heavy editing and photos larger than 10K, (if not GPU accelerated) video rendering, image rendering, 3D rendering (at times), and many other CPU intenssive activities. Any CPU is the bottleneck there since those rely only on CPU.

But I think that even those rely on GPU, the CPU is very rarely the bottleneck these days, I cannot see it being the bottleneck for many activities, compared to the GPU, which usually is a bad bottleneck for many activities.

 

I seriously think 6700hq is enough for 1070 mobile, but it depends a bit on the implementation.

I would avoid buying something where you can't disable the Optimus feature. Any laptop where you can disable Optimus, should theoretically work nicely, and the CPU should NOT be the bottleneck. Especially not for gaming, except maybe for that one or two games that might have 57 instead of 59 fps due to cpu (it's a joke)

 

But will you overclock it? If not. Then don't bother. I used to be like you wondering if cpu upgrades and to be honest it's not. It's like saying get a 4700mq vs 4800mq. Or worse a 4710mq.


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I would hope that would be less true for DX12 and Vulkan

 

But vulkan is coming out who knows when...

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Look at alienware amplifier videos. m15x use 6700hq and gtx 1070 and that processor do not bottleneck DESKTOP card. 6700hq is enough for single card. Do not know about sli, might be a little bit too weak.

 

I agree with you. Quad core cpu 6700hq is good for even 1080 if you ask me.

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I think an i7-6700HQ will be fine, I can't see it bottlenecking a 1070. I don't have CPU bottlenecks in the games I play with my 2.6GHz Sandybridge i7, so the 6700HQ is fine, any i7 CPU will be fine unless you buy a 120Hz screen - then it's worth getting the best CPU.

 

in the end, its not about opinion, but usage scenario and application cpu-dependent games will always profit from a faster cpu, whereas gpu-bottlenecked ones will profit from moar graphics powah!

 

Sadly one thing that needs to be addressed in the 6700hq vs 6820hk is cooling, if it isn't up to snuff you won't be able to run either at a high speed. A 6820hk is worthless if you can't keep it cool.