*Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread

Last time I did this was many, many moons ago. However, the difference was huge, 5-7 degrees celcius. I'm still considering the 502VS myself, but if I do I'll go through Xotic and get the paste done and the copper cooling upgrade (they said the latter should give 3-5 degree improvement).

 

I will look into that from Xotic. I was sold on getting the thermal upgrade from Gentech. The copper pipes would be a good idea as well.

 

The copper cooling upgrade is a scam, suited only for the foolish. I must scoff at Xotic claiming a 3-5 degree difference. I've experimented with multiple Clevos and MSIs, and have never seen more than a 1C difference.

If you want copper, buy your own pack of them for less than $10 off of eBay, and stick them to the heatsinks yourself. That's all they're doing anyway, and pocketing the rest of the money you pay them. There's literally no other magic or science to it.

The MSI machines have G-Sync, DSR, and are VR ready, so the odds they're using Optimus are about zero.

 

I was just reading up on that. The general consensus is that it is useless.

 

Hey, the copper sinks do reliably make the laptop at least a pound heavier.

Super helpful if your life is on the line, and you have to hit someone in the face with it.

 

Of course they are pocketing it. They are a business. Did you expect them to do it for free?



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Hey if anyone has gotten an Msi with the 1070 inside, could you let me know what you think of it?


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Man, I just don't understand what's going on with this laptop. It's like somewhere there is a kboost setting on or something and it makes it run at full load in every game. The laptop stays at 90c no matter what you do. 1080/60 or 1440/60. It's the strangest thing.

 

In the nvidia cp, have you tried using adaptive instead of max performance?

 

Good thinking but that did not help at all either. I even tried to disable Gsync. No luck. Something is making this laptop hop up to 90c no matter the circumstances while gaming and the fans are able to keep it there no matter how much more stress I put on it. Sadly the throttling keeps me from trying too hard. I'm going to run Witcher 3 at 4k once it redownloads. Try to cook it.

 

Probably a lemon...once you return it, you'll still get the same unit?

 

I was thinking about it. I'm getting a refund from Newegg and they told me that changing the thermal paste would void the warranty and RMA. So I'm not tinkering with it. I may go with the MSI G72 Dominator Pro with the 1070. That seems to be about the same minus the 128 SSD but Gentech is throwing in a thermal paste redo and some other promo stuff.

 

That's interesting, where did you read that? I tried finding reviews of it but came up empty. The Xotic edition notebooks that Notebookcheck reviewed last time around performed considerably better than the normal editions, so I'm surprised by this.

I wouldn't mind doing it myself but honestly I have neither the inclination to spend time searching for appropriately sized heatsinks etc nor with any grief I may get in terms of warranty (even if illegal as we discussed here), turnkey solution at that price is worth it to me - assuming it does anything lol.

 

Since the GPU keeps loading at 100% are you sure you don't have any kind of virus? Check your downloaded files. Better scan your pc to be sure. Otherwise it's clearly a faulty gpu and you got really unlucky.

 

They are just mini heatsinks that have some double sided tape stuff that they stick on them. In theory it's a good idea because it increases surface area but that theory falls flat on its face in practice. First off, whatever they're using for tape doesn't transfer any real heat (I paid for the copper cooling and while the rest of the heatsink was too hot to touch, they were barely warm which means they were insulating - removing them removed around 2-3C from the system) and second, whatever heat does get transferred away from the heatsink would need direct exposure from a fan hitting them or it would just eventually saturate to the same temperature as the rest or the heatsink, it would just take longer to get there. Since the P377SM-A bottom casing only has small slats instead of a proper mesh over the fans, it wouldn't be possible to get enough air in there to make a difference without modding the case.

Xotic doesn't void warranty for opening the machine, there arent even any stickers to break. In fact if you get a Clevo from most resellers, they tend to encourage you to repaste if you are seeing high temperatures. Now if you manage to damage the system from a paste change (like a cracked die or something) then obviously they wouldn't cover that with the warranty but you'd wreck the screws way before you would get to the point of cracking the die so it's not really likely at all.

 

I just Googled copper heat sink upgrade and you will find a few threads that lead to post in this forum.

 

I just got really unlucky; which is typical for me. When I go into a store I literally choose 2 items to pick out because one of them will be faulty and I always choose the faulty one :/

I had the laptop online long enough to grab steam, gog, swtor, and afterburner. I then did a factory reset to get it ready to go back to newegg and decided to do it all over again to make sure. Same results. Instantly goes to 90c when I start a game. No matter the resolution.

 

I feel sorry for this man, I too get unlucky sometimes but end up with a better choice / <insert any>, happens to many..Hope this is for our best, GL on the new machine !!

 

Unlucky? Man I hit the jackpot there with my machine...

 

Wich laptop was this ?

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I feel that the 980m sli was a really good purchase almost 2 years ago. It has kept it's value even with new cards out.. sure you get tons more power with 1080 or 1070 sli, but for 1080p resolution 980m sli is enough, at least for me.

I have been keeping an eye out on the new cards and with the current prices I don't think I'm buying a new laptop after the current one. I'll propably wait for Volta and go desktop..

 

There are four possibilities for overheating:

- crappy pasting Job (in most cases) -> Personally I would repaste before RMA it. When changing, you can already see, if the heatsink is warped or similar based on the TIM spreading.
- warped heatsink -> in this case you can only RMA it!
- too much voltage on CPU -> if possible/tweakable undervolt it to reduce temps to a good amount! -> can you provide a CPU-Z or ThrottleStop Screeny while under load?
- false fan Profile -> are your fans running full blast when reaching 90°C? If not, then you (partially) have your answer.

Just keep in mind that when you RMA it, there is no guarantee that your next rig runs as cool as intended! THIS is only achieved by laying hands on it and repaste yourself. At least, when done properly you can exclude that it wasn't the pasting Job!

On a side note: If you repaste CPU+GPU use the line method (if the die is elongated) or the cross method (if it is square). After mounting the heatsink back and screw it tight, remove it again to see, if you have done it properly. Afterwards clean all up and repeat the process.

 

Someone bought MSI GS73VR and the fan noise scared me already if it is from that laptop.

 

It's GS, not GT series. Nothing abnormal.

 

Don't use the X method on the GPU. Too much paste. Pea in the middle. Let the heatsink spread it out.

 

depends on the heatsink fit. if its not optimal, the X method is better for proper coverage. if it fits perfectly though, the pea method avoids using too much paste.

edit: ah, misread that @Ethrem was talking about gpu only. in that case pea method is best

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Don't forget the fifth element.
For some of us like @Ethrem there is also the 'destiny factor' of overheating.
His system does whatever it wants, no matter how many times they swapped all parts.

 

I politely disagree!

Pea method sux balz cause if you want to cover the corners the TIM spreads over the sides of the dice which is a mess afterwards! Cross method worked like a charm for me on GPU dices.

 

hm, good point. although ull always have a little bit of spread around the edges and cleaning up is always a hassle / mess when repasting ^^ i could imagine the cross method to be a bit difficult to dose correctly, depending on the size of the syringes ure using for the respective thermal paste

 

When they say a system refuses to use the GPU, that is usually Optimus at work...

 

Still no news on Acer predator and HP omen.

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Hp Omen spotted at komplett.se

 

I don't think the hp omen is going to be out as soon as a predator.


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Shall we see the new predator next month?

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It's the Asus GL502VS

 

Anyone know if the fan noise on the ASUS Strix 502VS is still really loud with a GTX 1070 and if it can handle cooling it?
One thing I hate is annoyingly loud fan profiles, I realize thinner laptops can be noisier but the old Strix model was very loud.

 

All good answers and I'm familiar with them. I feel it's definitely the heat sink but the laptops fans are good enough at full blast to not let it get past 90c, but I asked Newegg and they said changing the thermal paste would void the RMA. I'm a fan of changing paste. I do it on my GPU and CPU on my desktop.

I'm fairly certain I will not get another bum unit. Out of all the reviews I can find I seem to be the only one with this issue. That obviously does not mean I will not get another bad unit but it does point to the fact that thus is indeed not the normal.

Then again I'm now considering the MSI G72VR. I think the notebook check review was pathetically lazy but I'm hoping to hear more about it soon. Thanks for your reply.

 

My struggle has been with that very model. I have a bum unit that shoots straight to 90c when loading a game. But the fans are noticeable but they by no means drown out the sound and I have been keeping my sound down when tinkering with my machine. You will hear them under full load. But they definitely work and they will not overpower your sound.

 

The cooling of p650rsg is mush better.

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You should wait until the gt62vr comes out if you want the 1070 at a lower price


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Sorry to hear that Beasthunt, overall it looks like a good laptop but little wary of excessive noise from the fans.Are you returning or exchanging your laptop?

 

I'm not sure how rare GTX 10xx laptops are, but I spotted one with a 1070 in the wild yesterday: http://i.imgur.com/FxJ7DGP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/yWbQX5C.jpg

I personally wouldn't buy it because it has a BGA CPU, but still pretty cool to see nonetheless.

 

I'm returning it. The thing just has issues. I've set up a refund for it, I will send it out on Friday. This is the second time I typed this, the first time it froze.....lol. It's just a mess of a laptop.

 

I've got my eyes on that one. As well as the gt72.

 

Perhaps you should get a Clevo so you do not have to worry about voiding the warranty from changing thermal paste.

 

Haven't heard anything about the Acer (except for those early pics showing prototypes at shows etc), but HP Omen has definitely announced:
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/hp-news/media-kits/2016/Gaming-Omen.html
http://radeon.com/hp-omen/
(the 15.6" Omen I've only seen with the RX460 for now, my guess is they are waiting for the 1050)

 

Technically speaking, the 1070 should work on MSI GT72 laptops since it uses the eDP internal port.
They promised 2 gen updates, i think its fullfilled
They may release upgrade kits like with 900M series

 

I would love to see more reviews on the models already out. There doesn't seem to be that many. Reviews I mean.

 

The product page says the graphic is now up-to 1070. But the spec sheet only shows up-to 965M.

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The pdf data sheet on the first link says 1070, not sure which spec sheet you are looking at. Also, while they have announced, when I looked last week I didn't find anywhere that you could actually buy one yet.