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Robbo99999 Notebook Prophet
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Well, I caved in. Ended up buying a used XPS 15 with the i7, 960m, 256gb ssd for $1000. I have to say, I am quite impressed but also a little sad. The temperatures are phenomenal on the laptop and it OC's very well. Currently I have the core at +135mhz and the memory at +500mhz running stable. Yields 60fps in ultra/high mix in battlefield 4. However I'm sad the vBIOS is locked. I know my 860m did +290 on the core and I know my XPS can do more than +135... Ah well, I think I'll hold off until Volta comes along. If you have any questions about the XPS 15, let me know.
Also, quick question for you guys, how can I have Intel XTU start with windows and apply my undervolt? I have the shortcut in the startup folder but it doesn't seem to work... -
You don't need to run the XTU application as long as Intel XTU Services are enabled for automatic start in your services.msc.
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Rather download Throttlestop from @unclewebb 's signature. A better choice than the bloated XTU. Use less processor cycles and have what you want. Try it out http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/
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Why all the hate on on these forums for XTU? It works great and I've never had a single issue with it. It doesn't even have to be open to hold the values you've set. Unless you have a system crash it's set it and forget it just like the BIOS.
XTU also has profile and can be switched on the fly by selecting that profile and hitting apply.Ionising_Radiation likes this. -
It's because many other people have had terrible experiences with it. It's great if it works but I've always had problems with it screwing with the BIOS after too much tweaking, even on desktops - resulting in the need to do a CMOS drain. It's not a good program to use with some of the Clevo's - resulting in gremlins screwing up fan profiles.
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Thanks. That looks like an awesome laptop. Too bad they didn't share actual temperatures. My contact at Aorus/Gigabyte has left the company otherwise I would have asked for a review sample.
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Miguel Pereira Notebook Consultant
So what should i use in a rog g752vs for exemple?hmscott likes this. -
+ If you hunt for the maximum number from your OC'd processor, so is TrottleStop a better choice. TS don't use as many processor cycles as XTU. Of course is XTU a better choice than nothing
Was long the only choice for some but TS is for many a better choice now. But XTU is a good choice if you like the beautiful fancy graphs
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That's a shame, would really like see one of your detailed reviews for this laptop.
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Is 4k screen practical on 15 inch laptops?
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It depends on who you ask. Some swear by them, others don't care. IMO 2k would be a nice resolution to bring to migrate to but that doesn't seem to be happening.
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Why do they offer 4k on 15 inch anyway?
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Because to many "more" is "more", and "too much" is a concept yet to be fully realized in their lifetime.
Because people buy them.
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Miguel Pereira Notebook Consultant
Everyone knows that a 20MPix cameraphone is better then a 12MPix in a DSLr. Right?
Its the same concept.
(I've never used a 15" 4k, so I could be unfair, but I doubt the need of it...)hmscott likes this. -
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well obviously! just like a 4000 dpi mouse is twice as good as a 2000 dpi mouse!Kommando, Robbo99999 and hmscott like this.
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I notice the pixels at 1080p at 15". 1080p or 4k video content does not scale at an even multiplier/divisor at 3k. Thus, if I were to go for a higher res than 1080p, which I might because it looks noticeably nicer, I would go for 4k.hmscott likes this.
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What is the normal input response time in terms for gaming on 4k screen? Is it 25?
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I don't agree using XTU has caused me a lot of grief with locking my bios up and throwing a black screen on boot and it is a ROYAL pain to reset the bios in my alienware 18 unless you don't have the ram modules under the keyboard being used...
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Much of this is true. A bigger number so it must be better.
I'd understand if someone got one for photography or something though.
I'm even a little worried a 1440p on my upcoming 17 might be a little annoying.
I saw a 4k Sony Xperia the other day. Oh dear.. truthfully I've got razor sharp perfect eye sight and I couldn't tell a perceivable difference from my wife's 1080p Xperia.
At least the price of 4k screens are dropping rapidly though. I'm all for it when 120hz is doable, and more importantly Windows grasp the concept of scaling.Shadow God, sformasforma, Robbo99999 and 1 other person like this. -
What laptop you getting with a 1440p screen?
Edit : Sorry its in your signature duh, I think 1440p is a great compromise as driving 4k with newer/yet to be released titles is going to be very demanding. You seen the forza horizons benchmarks lol them devs need to optimize betterTBoneSan likes this. -
Robbo99999 Notebook Prophet
Haha, I look down on you, I have 12000dpi mouse! ;-) But no, I do have 12000dpi mouse, but only use 1400dpi (Logitech G303, best mouse I've owned, actually improved my rankings in Titanfall, the sensor & tracking is awesome!). I agree that all this mega high 4K resolution on 15" laptops is absurd, also the high dpi of mice!Kade Storm likes this. -
Hey guys, one question.
On mobile pascal, i know frequencies are unlock. But do we have control over power limit and temps target ?
If no, is there yet some modded vbios ?hmscott likes this. -
Hey guys so the two laptops that I'm trying to decide between are finally released at bestbuy. They are the Msi gt62vr pro-073 and the asus gl502vs-db71. Which one should I get? Generally the reviews I've seen on Amazon are better for the asus than the Msi.
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As I said, I can see the pixels on a 15" 1080p screen, from 1.5ft away. And from further away it still looks less crisp. But if 1080p at 15" is good enough for you, more power to you - you will be very happy with what's out there now.
Windows does understand scaling now - you can change scaling dynamically per-monitor without restarting your machine. The problem is, they didn't do as much hand-holding as OS X for third party apps that don't bother to support high-res, because the logistics of it are much more complex in an open ecosystem. So now we have to wait for the app devs to catch up - which is happening. -
I can't adjust these things on my clevo p650rs with 1070. I assume we need prema.
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Oh man I'd started to doubt that Best Buy would stock the GL502VS in the $1700 configuration (they've had a URL for the $2000 configuration for weeks), thanks for the heads up!birdyhands and hmscott like this.
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Ty for your answer. I can't wait for prema creating vbios mods. Getting rid of the turbo boost throttle will be a huge perf improvement.
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wccftech posted first performance for 1050 Ti (alleged gpu with 768 shader cores) http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-specs-performance-leak/
Says 3DMark11 throws 10.054 points, which is similar to desktop 960 performance. As expected. Now the question is... do we get this GPU in notebooks or do we only get the 640 core version? And how much worse is the non-Ti version with only 640 shader cores?
For reference taking the average values from notebookcheck (actually I'm not sure which ones to take for reference and why "median" is often higher than "average"):
970m about 9369 points
965m about 7716 points
960m about 5494 points
Okay, some maths to determine the performance of the non-Ti version with 640 cores:
768/10054=640/x => 8378 points raw performance. Which isn't exactly that much better than a 965m GTX (given, that later 965m benchmarks from Clevo notebooks show 8400 points already).
However the non-Ti version has a 100Mhz higher clock than the Ti, so maybe a performance in the 8500-9000 range is likely... which is the same as a desktop 950 performance.Dzanidzoni likes this. -
Hopefully we get the Ti version in notebooks. Or perhaps it wont be called Ti and there will just be 2 1050 versions, like the 1060 situation.
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Come at me, I have a G502 and a G402
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Anyone looking for a really good 15" non-BGA laptop. I just picked up the barebones MSI GT62VR from Eurocom. Its the MSI 16L13. Came with a 6700K and GTX 1070 and 1080p IPS G-Sync. Less than 1600$ out the door. No Logos and no stupid lights. Something to consider if you want a very powerful machine that is sleek and clean.
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Miguel Pereira Notebook Consultant
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You definitely didn't get a GT62VR. Those use HQ chips.
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I believe this is the model he is referring to: http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(2,384,0)ec
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Miguel Pereira Notebook Consultant
But that isn't a MSI, right? Is it a Clevo?
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Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)
Anything with the 1050 Ti will be a side-grade. Meh, Pascal is an overheating mess....
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It's an MSI GT62 body, chassis, appearance, speakers, keyboard, screen, gpu, buttons, uses msi system control manager.
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It's 100% an MSI product. Clevo doesn't use Dynaudio or steel series keyboards. It's a GT62 with a 6700k, and is non-retail branded.TomJGX likes this.
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Miguel Pereira Notebook Consultant
If they did a gt72/73 with a lga CPU it would be a hit, i guess.
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Yup indeed it is.. MSI had a similar one previously.. Spaced out with a 980M + 6700K was around 1100 GBP..
Oh definetly but they have no brains or balls...
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yeah im also puzzled why they still only offer that system as a whitebook but not a regularly configured system...their loss!
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When could we expect 1050ti announced? I assums they would be released this month?
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It is. The lads who got one confirmed all the MSI utilities work perfectly on the Barebones, except MSI True color.
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Something aint right... pricing barely breaks 1400€ when configured with a 6700K, 1070, no storage, basic ram, 3 yrs extended warranty. that cant be right, way too good to be true!
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