*Official* nVidia GTX 10xx Series notebook discussion thread

Even at $1349, it seems $100 too expensive.

 

What is the cheapest 1060 6GB you can find? On desktop the 1060 3Gb is around 60-80$ cheaper, so on laptop I'm guessing the difference should be 100$ less?

 

For those interested in the Aorus X5 v6, NBC has posted a review:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Aorus-X5-v6-Notebook-Review.179321.0.html

Unfortunately, this is not the 120hz 1080p model, which I remember someone here was vaguely interested in other than me. The weird 2880x1620 panel seems to also be bad in terms of PWM and response times. For me the list of advantages is probably a bit too big, even if the 1080p 120hz screen turns out to be great, the noise and battery life, and the lack of TB3 is just a bit too much compromise. Surprisingly the thermals are OK, especially if you re-paste, but it's just so damn loud.

 

Yeah. At 57dB+, it is going to make people who push it hard go deaf, unless they are wearing headphones.

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Why are they selling the 970m laptop (msi ge62 6qf) for 1300 usd?

 

Clearing inventory to the uninformed, that's now an awful price.

 

Logically shouldnt they decrease the prices to melt the inventory? Such a shame it is only one of the 3 laptops I can buy. I would buy that gp62 if I could. (others have no shipping to Turkey)

 

Honestly, its probably listed lower somewhere else or something.

 

Just wait for the 1050 to come out, if you can wait. I've read its performance will be at par or a little faster than 970M. Should be way cheaper than 1060.

 

970m was on par with what? A 960 desktop?
If so, i guess that'll be 1050ti and not the 1050 vanilla "power".

 

Yep, sorry... misread. 1050ti I was referring. 1050 is less maybe like 965M.

 

I fully expect the 1050 to equal a GTX 960. The 1050 Ti will be between the 960 and 970.

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GS63VR-6RF-Stealth-Pro-Notebook-Review.179761.0.html

 

AMD to drop RX 470 price to $169 to battle GTX 1050 Ti
AMD will drop the price of its Radeon RX 470 to just $169, so that it'll crush the GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/54393/amd-drop-rx-470-price-169-battle-gtx-1050-ti/index.html

" AMD launched the Radeon RX 470 at around $179, but will be dropping the price of the RX 470 by $10, with a fresh new price of $169, according to my industry sources. NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 1050 Ti won't match the speed of the Polaris-based Radeon RX 470, which will be 30% faster - and fully VR-ready (with more performance on the Oculus Rift, thanks to the latest updates unveiled from Oculus during their developer conference, Oculus Connect 3 last week).

NVIDIA is expected to price the GeForce GTX 1050 Ti at around $149, but it won't match the performance of AMD's Radeon RX 470 - and that's going to be a huge win for AMD in the mid-range market where 1080p monitors are dominant. 1080p 60FPS gaming at $159 with VR-ready goodness, and cheaper FreeSync monitors for AMD Radeon owners is a great thing for the 80% of the market AMD is targeting with Polaris.

We'll have more information in the very near future."

 

Another question for all of you: is the Asus GX800 on sale anywhere? Or was that notebook created just to get press? I'm interested in it for the cool temperatures for sustained workloads to do renders on it when not traveling on site for work.


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A laptop should manage fully workload whatsoever where you are. A laptop is and should be a portable computer. If not.. Rather buy a desktop if you need to be tethered to your desk. If the laptop can't do the task elsewhere, I would call it wasted money!!

 

Yeah, I agree with @Papusan - you'll spend thousands less if you build a desktop for use when not travelling. Use a workstation laptop for travelling if you need heavy work done.

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The water-cooled models are hard to find, and you kinda gotta work with an Asus rep/dealer to dig one up - be persistent and find it listed first - then get on the waiting list - maybe several.

The GX700 series was the same, I am hoping the GX800 series gets it's production ramped up a bit higher so we see some here too

 

I need the features that the GX800 has. I need SLI and a huge display so people can look over my shoulder when I'm working on things when on-site. I also require SLI 1080s for Nvidia VRworks.

No mobile workstation has dual desktop GPUs. That's an issue that I face.


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The msi gt83 does, as does the p870Dm3. Though I think that one needs a little work.

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As much as I like the GX800 and water-cooling, you need to realize that you can only run SLI effectively when plugged in to the water-dock with *both* PSU's. Unless you plan on keeping the water dock with you, certainly doable, you will be limited to 1 PSU and single GPU off the water-dock + 2 x 330w PSU.

Although the GX800 will work off the water-dock in SLI - it won't get full performance and is more effective off-dock in single GPU mode.

You can't plug in both PSU's in that mode - you should be able to, but so far I haven't seen anyone use a PSU duplexer to merge 2 PSU's into the air-cooled GX800 off the water-dock.

The 1080 SLI puts out a lot of heat. On air the P870DM3 is very loud, as is the GT83VR, only the GX800 is quiet enough to work with others over the laptop - it's a personal tolerence level preference.

I haven't met a non-enthusiast / non-datacenter worker that tolerates high fan levels and can focus on working at the same time the fans are blazing.

You might consider a toteable desktop + nice monitor for on site client work, keep it under wraps and use a single GPU laptop while getting the work set up, and then set up the desktop for the long term team work sessions.

If you can get the GX800 + PSU duplexer set up off water-dock - I think it's possible - please post a howto with test results, maybe a video showing how quiet - or loud - it is.

This is a pre-production unit review, with 230w x 2 PSU's, it should perform better off the dock with the single production 330w PSU.

 

Nice laptop. I just ordered a AW15 last night. But in my defence that laptop is from abroad and it's 17".
I don't know if I even want the AW15. Everything is right about it but the dimensions as I'm usually a 13-14" kinda guy and 15" laptops are like 3cm wider either side than the 15" was back in my day in 2007-2010. The non numeric keyboard and 1070 swayed me. And it was as cheap as the msi gs43 at £1500 which people are having some problems with as times gone on, so that put me off a bit. And the aorus x3 is going to sell for £1800.
Not done deal though. Be about 2 weeks so I'll look out in case something clevo manage to get a 14" or the aero 14 makes it fast enough. In a way I hope one does come so I can get them instead cos I KNOW I'll be spoilt worse so than going from a 970m to 960m, having to send the AW15 back to downgrade to 1060.


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I was considering the Aero 14, but @D2 Ultima gave me the advice that it would throttle and overheat with a 1060.

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Gaming and thin are currently in a complicated situation. People love thin and light machines, and people love high performance, but sadly the mix tends to have several compromises.

 

Arr, the laws of science be a harsh mistress.

 

Yeah. You can not choose both as you say. But a lot of people think it is possible anyway. Scary!!

 

What really gets to my nerves is people claiming those thin and light are the correct way, and that have better build quality. People don't even know what build quality is! And they also fall for the hype and marketing of names "OMG it has core i7! and a desktop GTX1070*

Turns out it runs like a 1060, and the core i7 runs at 2.9ghz.

 

The typical user doesn't even know what to look for or just don't care their hardware isn't performing to spec. It's unfortunate but is why manufacturers are continuing down the current path they're on.

 

I would have liked to seen hardcore desktop owners accepted that their newly acquired 6700K managed only 2.9GHz

 

but but but.....thats laptops for you guys! you CANT overclock them! its a bad idea, because they go nuclear INSTANTLY! cmon now, everyone and their dog knows that

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You forget.., people skip good advices and think they know better than all other And for example Acer said open that their new ACER monster Book X21 will go up in flames if you overclock Higher than 4.1 Ghz in this oversized BGA monstrosity. Cabinet Size doesn't matter if the internals is crippled by design. And will people listening? No

 

It would. But I'll take a gamble if the price is right since there are some trade offs. But that ultimately depends on how much performance is lost. I got couple weeks to hear if there will be anything in next few weeks whilst the laptop will be built and then a fortnight to decide to return my AW15. Or is that 30days? Either way I'm sure it should surface by then. If I like it. I can take a hit on performance downgrade to a 1060. I prefer smaller form factor. Plus I want a screen res higher than 1080p. The aero gives 2k? Which is more ideal than the aorus x3 for native gaming.


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Thin and light is OK as long as it's as it's optimized for thermal performance. But too many compromises are definitely made, just to shave a few mm off. For a daily driver not for gaming, I love my thin and light 12" Samsung. It's easy to handle, small and thin to not take up much space in my bag, and not too heavy to weigh me down with all the other crap I have to carry with me on a daily basis. But for a gaming notebook, optimize with thermals first and foremost. You don't need to be big just for the sake of being big, but don't compromise heatpipe space because you want to be thinner than the diameter of a dime.

The upcoming handheld Windows 10 GPD WIN (I should have mine any day now) added several mm to its thickness so it could improve cooling. And it's an Atom CPU! If they can do it, why don't these other bozos that race to be thin but throttle.

 

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jeez, all this talk about "SLIM, SLIMMER, SLIMMEST, PAPER-THIN"

 

This size ↓↓↓ is the main target for gamingbook's. Anything below 10mm thickness, is the wet dream. Anything above 10mm is not wanted, LOL
Which ODM/OEM reach the target first? Alienware, Acer, Asus, Msi or Clevo? Who is closest to the target with laptops designed for Gtx 1080 size card?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3131...t-7-launches-as-the-thinnest-laptop-ever.html

 

I think that if you want an ultrabook size Gaming Laptop, you don't have many choices. Most that exist throttle and overheat.

A better way (if you have the money) is to buy a thin and light laptop, and a separate LGA-based Gaming Laptop.

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Please delete the "most" in "most that exist throttle and overheat." Thanks.

 

Well, the GS43VR is borderline, so the "most" can stay

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How borderline? Cause the lack of gsync always kills it for me. But I seem to keep going back and looking at it and wondering if it would work out. I haven't had g sync before.

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The temps on the GS43VR are great - at 1080p with most settings on max, my GPU stays in the 70s C and CPU in the 60s C (though that's with IC Diamond on the CPU and GPU, a -170.9 undervolt of the CPU, and gaming on a metal mesh laptop stand). It has Optimus though, so no Gysnc unfortunately.

 

They've pre-populated the AW13 page with a little more meat now in case anyone is interested:
http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/alienware-13-laptop

 

Is Dell / AW coming with any MXM based 10 series laptops? Not BGA GPUs.

 

No, AW has closed the Buggy Whips and Whale Oil Division.

Rockets to Mars now, the weight of the bulky sockets and connectors construction can't be tolerated any longer.

Not to mention the unnecessary power and thermal wastage...

But, don't worry, there are still plenty of ole' LGA Fogies that'll keep that nostalgia afloat a little while longer

 

Welcome to new world of disposable laptops. I guess we can just take bank loan each time we want to upgrade.